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Thurbane
2016-07-20, 04:30 AM
Has anyone ever statted out Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fafhrd_and_the_Gray_Mouser) using 3.5 stats?

The closest I could find is this (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?385169-Building-the-best-swordsmen-of-this-world-or-any-other!-Fafhrd-amp-the-Gray-Mouser) and this (http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?70416-Fafhrd-and-the-Grey-Mouser).

In the AD&D Legends and Lore, Fafhrd is a Ranger 15/Rogue (Thief) 13/Bard 5; the Gray Mouser is a Fighter 11/Wizard (Magic User) 3/Rogue (Thief) 15.

I'd be interested in Epic and non-Epic version of the characters.

Cheers - T



http://i65.tinypic.com/29ayywp.jpg

Elkad
2016-07-20, 10:08 AM
In case you aren't familiar with 1e multiclassing, they aren't epic (or barely).
1e multiclassing is pretty similar to gestalt in 3.5. (The effect, not the mechanism.)

I'd have to check, but their total experience points are probably less than a 20th level wizard.

Thurbane
2016-07-21, 10:58 PM
In case you aren't familiar with 1e multiclassing, they aren't epic (or barely).
1e multiclassing is pretty similar to gestalt in 3.5. (The effect, not the mechanism.)

I'd have to check, but their total experience points are probably less than a 20th level wizard.

That's a good point.

I've been playing since about 84, and we started out on AD&D. From memory, multiclassing was really messy - only non-humans could multiclass, and human did a weird thing called "dual classing".

The characters in 1E L&L kind of disregarded the RAW though, and just threw as many levels on a hero as they thought it needed.

Mr Adventurer
2016-07-22, 01:46 AM
Grey Mouser is probably just a Factotum; Fafhrd probably a Ranger with the Complete Warrior feats-for-spells variant.

Āmesang
2016-07-22, 12:35 PM
At the bottom of the page is Wizards' 2nd Edition to 3rd Edition Conversion Manual (.zip file), so hopefully that can help.

http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/er/20030221a

As I recall dual/multi-classed characters keep their highest level class as in and all other classes are divided by three (rounding down) and added together; then just arrange the classes however you'd like.

So Fafhrd would be a 20th-level combination of ranger, rogue, and bard, while the Gray Mouser would be a 19th-level combination of fighter, wizard, and rogue.

(Of course you can just as easily as set them as any other appropriate class since 3rd Edition is full of 'em; I once converted the 16th-level fighter/16th-level magic user Zol Darklock from Castle Greyhawk into a fighter 1/sorcerer 6/eldritch knight 10/shadow adept 4 (in an attempt to retain his gishiness and add some FORGOTTEN REALMS® flavor to him and connect him with the 3rd Edition shades).

Psyren
2016-07-22, 02:37 PM
Going from Amesang's post as well as the art, Gray Mouser looks like an Arcane Trickster. Fafhrd looks like a Barbarian with either some Rogue or Ranger influence.