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LordOfCain
2016-08-21, 04:11 PM
Is this basic outline good for a ninja-paladin without any levels in paladin. Gold Dwarf (DMG subrace) Fighter 2/Monk 1 (for +Wis to AC)/Cleric 17 (for 9ths). Any reviews? Only the DMG, PHB, and MM I are allowed.

Troacctid
2016-08-21, 04:24 PM
Well, if multiclass penalties are in play, it's not going to work, since cleric is not your favored class.

LordOfCain
2016-08-21, 04:39 PM
Well, if multiclass penalties are in play, it's not going to work, since cleric is not your favored class.
Assume that multiclass penalties are houseruled out.

GreyBlack
2016-08-21, 05:20 PM
I guess my big question is why you aren't just going Monk 2/Cleric 18 or Cleric 20 if that's the case. The fighter really adds nothing, the rogue only adds wis to AC, but prevents you from wearing armor, but the Cleric gives you all sorts of benefits. If it's for access to all martial weapons, might I suggest just Fighter 1/Cleric 19?

LordOfCain
2016-08-21, 05:26 PM
I guess my big question is why you aren't just going Monk 2/Cleric 18 or Cleric 20 if that's the case. The fighter really adds nothing, the rogue only adds wis to AC, but prevents you from wearing armor, but the Cleric gives you all sorts of benefits. If it's for access to all martial weapons, might I suggest just Fighter 1/Cleric 19?

Rogue? May I assume you meant monk? It is a probably level 1-20 campaign/build and I take fighter for marginally better BaB/hp and the bonus feats to help get Spring Attack later.

Troacctid
2016-08-21, 05:35 PM
Fighter doesn't actually give you better BAB.

LordOfCain
2016-08-21, 05:39 PM
Forgot about that.... didnt do the math before posting.... but I would need the bonus feats to get Spring Attack as soon as I want it. (Level... 4 I believe)

Troacctid
2016-08-21, 05:44 PM
Don't take Spring Attack then. It's not actually a good feat.

smetzger
2016-08-21, 06:28 PM
Don't take Spring Attack then. It's not actually a good feat.

Well, he is restricted to the core 3 books. So, it is decent with a reach weapon and fast speed. But as a slower dwarf...not so good.

DMVerdandi
2016-08-21, 09:03 PM
My suggestion? Play a druid. Druid actually makes one of the better if not best classes to play a ninja. It's a shame you can't use any of the ACF's but really all you need is natural spell.

Druids are proficient in scimitars, which are pretty BA, so get one of those, and some daggers for back-up
Pick up a monk's belt asap, and take whatever spells needed.

Want to be a Katon specialist? Pick fire spells.
Want to use Mokuton Jutsu? Easy as pie.
Want to be a dedicated kuchiyose no jutsu user? THE CLASS NATIVELY HAS THE ABILITY TO TURN ANY SPELL INTO SUMMON NATURE'S ALLY.

Get you a huge viper as a familiar, and suddenly you are orochimaru.