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Zhentarim
2016-08-28, 08:33 PM
It seems odd to me.

Milo v3
2016-08-28, 08:45 PM
They don't. Originally the heritages needed a feat when they were introduced in Pathfinder 25: The Bastards of Erebus, but Blood of Fiends removed the need for the feat.

Zhentarim
2016-08-28, 08:47 PM
They don't. Originally the heritages needed a feat when they were introduced in Pathfinder 25: The Bastards of Erebus, but Blood of Fiends removed the need for the feat.

I like that

Extra Anchovies
2016-08-29, 12:24 AM
See, this is a good thread. Question, answer, wham! Done. No dozen-page arguments here, no sir :smalltongue:

On a more topic-relevant note, are stock tieflings and aasimar suggested as being of any particular heritage, or are they the mutts and moggies to the variant heritages' pure pedigrees? I'd think that a tiefling with a qlippoth ancestor would end up as a qlippoth-blooded (and likewise for the other variant heritages), so would non-variant planetouched only occur in families with multiple outsiders in their family trees?

Now I wish there was a planetouched with both good and evil outsiders in their ancestry.

Zhentarim
2016-08-29, 12:31 AM
See, this is a good thread. Question, answer, wham! Done. No dozen-page arguments here, no sir :smalltongue:

On a more topic-relevant note, are stock tieflings and aasimar suggested as being of any particular heritage, or are they the mutts and moggies to the variant heritages' pure pedigrees? I'd think that a tiefling with a qlippoth ancestor would end up as a qlippoth-blooded (and likewise for the other variant heritages), so would non-variant planetouched only occur in families with multiple outsiders in their family trees?

Now I wish there was a planetouched with both good and evil outsiders in their ancestry.
Peri-Blooded

Milo v3
2016-08-29, 01:20 AM
See, this is a good thread. Question, answer, wham! Done. No dozen-page arguments here, no sir :smalltongue:

On a more topic-relevant note, are stock tieflings and aasimar suggested as being of any particular heritage, or are they the mutts and moggies to the variant heritages' pure pedigrees? I'd think that a tiefling with a qlippoth ancestor would end up as a qlippoth-blooded (and likewise for the other variant heritages), so would non-variant planetouched only occur in families with multiple outsiders in their family trees?
The fiendish taint might be too small to be determinable as having been from a qlippoth, but might still be enough to cause the person to be a tiefling from the faint evil.

Sayt
2016-08-29, 01:32 AM
My understanding is that the 'generic' planetouched (Aasimar and Tiefling) are by and large the most common, compared to say, Div or Archon blooded, and that the more specialised planetouched are just a roll of the door to see if they manifest like that.

Psyren
2016-08-29, 01:44 AM
The "generic" Tieflings are described as having "muddled and unidentifiable mixes of fiendish blood," while the variant ones have "particularly strong heritages tied to specific fiendish races."

Similarly, "generic" Aasimar have this line: "the similar qualities of many such celestially touched beings hint at a relatively indistinct or all-encompassing heavenly force in their lineage." Meanwhile the specific/variant ones say that they "possess more unique traits and abilities inherited from their supernal forebears, attributes that hint at the precise type of celestial being that affected their ancestors."

Based on this, we can conclude that the common versions of these tend to be mutts, or at least engendered more by an encompassing and general force/taint than by a specific forbear, but the specific ones do result from the multigenerational actions of an individual or possibly even clan of fiends that share a type.