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Matticusrex
2016-09-07, 05:15 AM
Ability description: Starting at 2nd level when you choose this school, your soft words and enchanting gaze can magically enthrall another creature. As a full action, choose one creature that you can see within 5 feet of you. If the target can see or hear you, it must succeed on a Wisdom saving throw against your wizard spell save DC or be charmed by you until the end of your next turn. The charmed creature's speed drops to 0, and the creature is incapacitated and visibly dazed.
On subsequent turns, you can use your full action to maintain this effect, extending its duration until the end of your next turn. However, the effect ends if you move more than 5 feet away from the creature, if the creature can neither see nor hear you, or if the creature takes damage.
Once the effect ends, or if the creature succeeds on its initial saving throw against this effect, you can't use this feature on that creature again until you finish a long rest.

So the first key word is "enthralled", the second key word is "charmed", and finally the 3rd key word is "dazed".

So obviously they cant move or take actions/bonus action and they have the physical appearance of being dazed to on-lookers. My question is are they afflicted with the Charm status effect as listed in "charm person"? Can you speak between each-other as if you are a dear friend to them? Is this just a stunning ability that shuts off all of their perception? Do they know if you hypnotized them or attempted to? Are enthralled and charmed just flavor words with no meaning?

These are the questions that keep me up at night

Ninja_Prawn
2016-09-07, 05:30 AM
My question is are they afflicted with the Charm status effect as listed in "charm person"? Can you speak between each-other as if you are a dear friend to them? Is this just a stunning ability that shuts off all of their perception? Do they know if you hypnotized them or attempted to? Are enthralled and charmed just flavor words with no meaning?

These are the questions that keep me up at night

I would say...

No, it's not like Charm Person. This ability doesn't make someone your friend, it dazes them.

DM's call as to whether the target knows it's charmed.

Enthralled is a flavour word, charmed is a status condition.

Matticusrex
2016-09-07, 06:03 AM
I would say...

No, it's not like Charm Person. This ability doesn't make someone your friend, it dazes them.

DM's call as to whether the target knows it's charmed.

Enthralled is a flavour word, charmed is a status condition.

Thanks I think that clears everything up. I didn't realize Charm was a general term for multiple possible effects.

Ninja_Prawn
2016-09-07, 06:25 AM
Thanks I think that clears everything up. I didn't realize Charm was a general term for multiple possible effects.

Yeah, see page 290 in the PHB. Different sources of the charmed condition tend to specify what (if anything) the charmed person believes or how they behave. So it might make them think the charmer is a 'friendly acquaintance' (as per Charm Person), 'madness' might 'glow in its eyes' (Crown of Madness), or there might be no specific change (such as with Hypnotic Pattern or Geas). But in all cases where someone is 'charmed', the rules on page 290 apply.

Shining Wrath
2016-09-07, 06:54 AM
There's lots of ways to be charmed, and elves get advantage on saving throws against all of them.