Levism84
2016-09-14, 07:21 PM
I am already sort of upset with the Thought Eater (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/occult-adventures/occult-classes/mesmerist/archetypes/paizo-llc---mesmerist-archetypes/thought-eater-mesmerist-archetype) archetype for Mesmerist effectively making your Hypnotic/Painful/Bold Stare unusable if you are disguising yourself as someone whose thoughts you have "eaten", but the wording of Consume Identity just leaves me with questions and no clear answers. I was hoping I could turn to the forums and GMs to get some clarification.
1) If a Thought Eater uses Consume Identity on a target, does he gain the benefits of Assume Identity, Assume Morality, and Assume Knowledge on that same target as a permanent effect or until he uses Consume Identity on another target? Assume Identity and Assume Knowledge both state a 24 hour duration or until Hypnotic Stare is used on another target, while Assume Morality appears to be tied to the Assume Identity effect.
2) If Assume Identity, Assume Morality, and Assume Knowledge don't become permanent effects until the Thought Eater uses Consume Identity on a new target, what is the point of magically detecting as the target if you can no longer gain the Disguise bonus or alignment masking? I can understand if Assume Knowledge leaves you after 24 hours, sort of, but losing the other two benefits seems counterproductive if you are attempting to pass yourself off as the target (which I assume is the reason this archetype's powers let you have the appearance, alignment, knowledge, and aura of the target).
3) If Assume Identity, Assume Morality, and Assume Knowledge do become permanent effects until the Thought Eater uses Consume Identity on a new target, can he still use Assume Identity, Assume Morality, and Assume Knowledge on a new target (gaining the benefits for 24 hours) while still being able to have Consume Identity from his previous victim active? For example, could a Thought Eater use Consume Identity on target A and later use Assume Identity/Morality/Knowledge on target B while being able to revert back to Consume Identity on target A? Could he then decide to Consume Identity on target B, losing his Consume Identity on target A, and later use Assume Identity/Morality/Knowledge on target C?
Any clarification would help. Thanks in advance.
1) If a Thought Eater uses Consume Identity on a target, does he gain the benefits of Assume Identity, Assume Morality, and Assume Knowledge on that same target as a permanent effect or until he uses Consume Identity on another target? Assume Identity and Assume Knowledge both state a 24 hour duration or until Hypnotic Stare is used on another target, while Assume Morality appears to be tied to the Assume Identity effect.
2) If Assume Identity, Assume Morality, and Assume Knowledge don't become permanent effects until the Thought Eater uses Consume Identity on a new target, what is the point of magically detecting as the target if you can no longer gain the Disguise bonus or alignment masking? I can understand if Assume Knowledge leaves you after 24 hours, sort of, but losing the other two benefits seems counterproductive if you are attempting to pass yourself off as the target (which I assume is the reason this archetype's powers let you have the appearance, alignment, knowledge, and aura of the target).
3) If Assume Identity, Assume Morality, and Assume Knowledge do become permanent effects until the Thought Eater uses Consume Identity on a new target, can he still use Assume Identity, Assume Morality, and Assume Knowledge on a new target (gaining the benefits for 24 hours) while still being able to have Consume Identity from his previous victim active? For example, could a Thought Eater use Consume Identity on target A and later use Assume Identity/Morality/Knowledge on target B while being able to revert back to Consume Identity on target A? Could he then decide to Consume Identity on target B, losing his Consume Identity on target A, and later use Assume Identity/Morality/Knowledge on target C?
Any clarification would help. Thanks in advance.