Redemption - A fan comic (page 1 posted!)

[Gefangnis]

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What is Redemption?

Redemption is a fancomic (for OOTS) based on the backstory I wrote for that one badass bandana'd paladin (see him here, in the third panel of the second strip (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0448.html)). It follows the adventures of Remmin, as I call him, his friend Katsu, and his girlfriend Aoi. The comic will be posted page-by-page as I complete it, but please do not treat it like a webcomic. I have no real update schedule except for the estimated rate at which I complete it. For the most part, it will follow the general format of regular OOTS, though it may stray from that. The artwork is intended to be similar to if not an exact imitation of Rich Burlew's art style in OOTS.

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[The Extinguisher]

That's so much awesome, it should be illegal.
Continue. For the love of all things holy and nerdy, continue it!

I shall steal you, and force you to become my artist slave.
Uh, you never saw that.

Seriously though, you rawk.

[Derivious]

Very awesome, that looks a lot like OotS style.

[truemane]

Your art is exceptional. Paladin Redemption stories are among my favourite in the D&D Genre. I look forward to what you come up with.

And if you need/would like the services of a writer for your dialogue/backstory/plot-lines, I would be honoured to assist you...

[kpenguin]

The fading out in the beginning is very cool. However, Rich generally keeps a strict watch on his artwork, so if that is the actual Shojo death pic, you might be in trouble. If that's a recreated version, you're in the clear.

[Kurien]

That certainly looks very interesting. It looks very close to the Giant's style, especially the text bubbles and colours.
However, what puts me off is the length of the arm holding the katana.

For Bandana Guy's name, how about "Batosuke Suichin". (bat-O-scay / SOO-cheen)

>_>
<_<

I just wrote the first thing that came to mind, and I doubt it means anything in Japanese.

Oh, and I checked; it isn't the exact same as the Shojo death pic.

[Gefangnis]

Nope, it's not the original Shojo pic, although it was wicked hard to recreate.

As for story, I think I've got it all figured out, but I appreciate the offer.

For the name, I actually was looking for something a bit simpler, like 'Daigo'. I really wish that wasn't taken, because it's perfect.

[Omicroncubed]

What what? I wanna see? Oh right, but it doesn't work for me. :smallfrown:

Can I find it anywhere else perhaps so I can come back here and comment on it?

Edit: Nevermind I can see it. Awesome :smallsmile:

[Gefangnis]

Sorry, I was just switching the links around.

[onasuma]

Need. More. Now.
In fact, if this becomes as good as i have a feeling it will be, it shall be linked to from my webcomic. If not, gods will cry

[Tola]

Hmm.

Might want to talk with The Giant or at least someone with authority concerning this. Don't want to say something that's outright untrue, or clashes with his world.

[Gefangnis]

Hmm.

Might want to talk with The Giant or at least someone with authority concerning this. Don't want to say something that's outright untrue, or clashes with his world.

Yup. I'm going to be very, very careful. I'm not going to have any of his characters be part of the story, and the most they might do is speak one line. The exception is where I know a confliction is extremely unlikely, like Shojo's part in the cover page/basic premise. That's the only example I can think of of tying in with Rich's storylines.

How do you guys think I should post this? I'm thinking the cover page, then each page in its own spoiler tag.

[BRC]

Bandanna paladin with the black sword is by far the awsomeest of the nameless paladins, I saulte this.
50 points for you

[RedScholarGypsy]

I'm honestly surprised there hasn't been a fan-comic before this.

You are entrusted with revealing to the world the awesome bad-arseness of the Bandana Paladin (Bandin) Please give us the good stuff.

[Yoritomo Himeko]

Providing that's it's fine with Rich, I say go for it. Right now I'm more interested in the Sapphire Guard than in the OOTS. Especially since the comic is updating irregularly and this should satisfy my OOTS fix.

[Gales]

Behind the Name (http://www.behindthename.com) is a good site when you're looking for names to give to your characters. It has all kinds of names in it's database, what they mean and are they for men, women or both.
Here's Japanese names! (http://www.behindthename.com/nmc/jap.php)


I've been thinking about making a fancomic myself, but I my knowledge about D&D is poor and thought it the idea would be crushed by the folks at the forums/Rich. Guess I was wrong... :smallbiggrin: Hope you'll manage to do this!

(and a small suggestion for your comic... I think this should be a different bandana -paladin, because if we like the character, it's really sad to know he'll be killed as one of the crowd :( )

[ClericofPhwarrr]

This is amazing. You just made my night.

[Gefangnis]

Behind the Name (http://www.behindthename.com) is a good site when you're looking for names to give to your characters. It has all kinds of names in it's database, what they mean and are they for men, women or both.
Here's Japanese names! (http://www.behindthename.com/nmc/jap.php)


I've been thinking about making a fancomic myself, but I my knowledge about D&D is poor and thought it the idea would be crushed by the folks at the forums/Rich. Guess I was wrong... :smallbiggrin: Hope you'll manage to do this!

(and a small suggestion for your comic... I think this should be a different bandana -paladin, because if we like the character, it's really sad to know he'll be killed as one of the crowd :( )

Wow! That site is a godsend! Throwing up a cast page for now, more characters may be added later.

I've been thinking about the tone for the comic, and I decided I was going to go less with humor and more with actual storyline. Don't get me wrong, though, there will be lighthearted bits.

Also, this will likely take me quite a long time. I take a long time to draw, mostly.

I'm most of the way through the first page, so it should be up tonight or tomorrow.

P.S. It's going to be that paladin, for exactly that reason.

[Serpentine]

Um... are the second two names messed up a bit?
I look forward to reading this, by the way.

[Gefangnis]

Um... are the second two names messed up a bit?
I look forward to reading this, by the way.

Yes, they are, which I JUST fixed. My bad.

And that, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, is when you know it's bedtime.

[technomage]

this looks AWESOME!!

[Ichneumon]

This is just fantastic, I never really like the guy as much as other people do on this forum, but I like your idea. This is great, well done.

What program are you using?

[kpenguin]

Given the "quiet and reserved" trait of Katsu, shouldn't his pic have a frown or at most a smirk?

[Gefangnis]

This is just fantastic, I never really like the guy as much as other people do on this forum, but I like your idea. This is great, well done.

What program are you using?

I draw with Flash CS3.


Given the "quiet and reserved" trait of Katsu, shouldn't his pic have a frown or at most a smirk?

No, the picture correctly portrays his character, I messed up with the wording. I'll fix that.

That reminds me. Until I actually start posting strips, things are subject to change.

[ARMOURERERIC]

I w3ould make up 10-15 strips, send the to Rich privately, and see if maybe we have a new Thursday comic.

Eric

[Agalyon]

This might turn out very well, I would ask the Giants permission before going any further but if you stick to it and get his permission it could turn out fantastic!

I always liked Remmin and thought he could have a cool back-story if someone took the time and encourage you to continue. :smallbiggrin:

[kpenguin]

Will we see other paladins expanded upon as well? There were so many cool-looking guys in there besides Mr. Bandana (Remmin, as you've named him)

[onasuma]

I w3ould make up 10-15 strips, send the to Rich privately, and see if maybe we have a new Thursday comic.

Eric

Seconded, except for the random 3

[truemane]

I w3ould make up 10-15 strips, send the to Rich privately, and see if maybe we have a new Thursday comic.

Eric

Also seconded (thirded?), including the random 3.

[Ichneumon]

I second that, and would like to see more of those other paladins two, if possible.

[kpenguin]

Just a question, but how serious will this comic be? I mean, the OOTS style practically lends itself to comedy, but the fonts you're using look all big and serious.

[Froody]

Whoa... looks very promising. I'm looking forward to this. :)

[Gefangnis]

Right now the story is divided into 3 acts, each one about 20-30 strips.

Although I like the idea of sending a bunch of strips to rich, I would prefer to also post them here. I need feedback, mainly.

As of yet, the storyline does not include any other paladins. Rem spends the entire second act away from Azure city, after all. I'm still working out the kinks, though, so bear with me.

There will be comedy, but not a lot of D&D comedy - you'll notice Rich has kinda expended that limited resource in OOTS by now. There will also be less comedy than OOTS - I'll try to keep to the punchline style, but I may stray from it as we go along.

As for asking Rich, well, so far this is just fanart, which is expressly permitted. If Rich takes notice or a Mod takes notice and posts this on the actual site once I get going, wonderful! However, I don't see that being very likely and I think this will mostly stay just in this thread here.

[Ichneumon]

When can we expect the first instalment?

[Gefangnis]

When can we expect the first instalment?

I'll be done with the first page tonight or tomorrow. The first few pages are going to be the hardest, because I have to draw everything for the first time - after, I can just do what Rich does a lot and paste the characters and then move their arms/legs/facial expressions. It's also difficult because I'm holding myself to Rich's new style of OOTS rather than his old style of OOTS (for the most part), and try as I might to imitate him, I am not the amazing artist that Rich is.

Quick question. How many people caught the reference of the speech bubble in the fourth panel?

It's a reference to the first thing Shojo says when the PCs meet him: "Buh? Wha? Uh.. Congratulations, young paladins you have -"

[mockingbyrd7]

This looks very cool, I would love to see how this plays out.

Good god, I've got ANOTHER webcomic to worry about. Help me.

[Gefangnis]

I thought I'd post a little on my process.

First, I draw the comic. I have a old friend (not on these boards) with excellent QA skills. He checks the comic's artwork and tells me what looks weird and why. Then I add dialog on top, and he checks this for grammar, cheesiness, crapiness, etcetera.

I'm at this stage right now - the first page is pretty much done, but I need him to check it to find things that I missed. And he's not on AIM yet.

[Surfing HalfOrc]

Please continue this! It will give everone something to enjoy while Rich takes his much needed vacation.

I can't say that this is "disallowed," but there are a few OotS type comics, including Order of the Town in the Webcomic link. As long as you don't use any of Rich's characters without his permission, your strip SHOULD fall under the "Fair Use" clause of copyright, but it would be better if Rich bought off on it.

Try using the "Contact Us" button at the bottom of the forum pages... Possibly a semi-direct warm-line to Rich's secretary's assistant's voice mail service.

[Gefangnis]

Please continue this! It will give everone something to enjoy while Rich takes his much needed vacation.

I can't say that this is "disallowed," but there are a few OotS type comics, including Order of the Town in the Webcomic link. As long as you don't use any of Rich's characters without his permission, your strip SHOULD fall under the "Fair Use" clause of copyright, but it would be better if Rich bought off on it.

Try using the "Contact Us" button at the bottom of the forum pages... Possibly a semi-direct warm-line to Rich's secretary's assistant's voice mail service.

This really isn't a webcomic though. It's got a start, a middle and an ending. Think of it as a fanfic, but in OOTS art form.

Could you link me to these other OOTS-type comics? My interest has been piqued.

[Agalyon]

Well Legendary (http://legendary.comicgenesis.com/) is a great comic I read with the OotS art style and has the same comedy layout of afew jokes per strip.

[onasuma]

Wait a second, Rem is dating his little sister :smalleek:
In the cast, it saysfirst that aoi is rems girlfriend then later that the rouge cares for rem and his little sister aoi a great deal. Whats up with this?

Edit: Oh wait, does that mean aoi is the rouges sister then?

[thehothead]

It think it means the rogue's little sister by that.

[Gefangnis]

Heh... yes. I'll change the wording to make that more obvious. And, of course, once you meet the characters themselves, it will be more obvious.

Speaking of which, since I'm waiting for my editor on page 1, I started writing pages 2 and 3. These first few pages should be posted quite rapidly.

[The Extinguisher]

This really isn't a webcomic though. It's got a start, a middle and an ending. Think of it as a fanfic, but in OOTS art form.


Technically it is, as it is a comic, on the web.

There are plenty of webcomics that have beginnings, middles and ends. Oots for one.

[BRC]

Just go ahead with it, worst thing that can happen is you get a cease and desist, which you shouldnt since A its all your art, B you credit Rich for the characters and world, and C your not making any money off it. Now if you began selling "Redemption" T-shirts, you would be in trouble.

[Gefangnis]

Technically it is, as it is a comic, on the web.

There are plenty of webcomics that have beginnings, middles and ends. Oots for one.

Ok, but I really don't want people to think of it as a webcomic. It's a completely set storyline, but I'm posting it page by page so that I can get feedback. And since I'm posting it page by page, I'm using Rich's punchline-per-strip format, at least for the beginning.

I'm not making a convincing argument, am I?

[Ichneumon]

I can't wait to see the first complains about your comic being late.

"Because it is your duty to supply us with free web comics fan-fiction on time!!!"

Just joking of course, but just be prepared, people are really like that.:smalltongue:

[kpenguin]

I can't wait to see the first complains about your comic being late.

"Because it is your duty to supply us with free web comics fan-fiction on time!!!"

Just joking of course, but just be prepared, people are really like that.:smalltongue:

Indeed

*makes generic complaint about late page*

[truemane]

Ok, but I really don't want people to think of it as a webcomic. It's a completely set storyline, but I'm posting it page by page so that I can get feedback. And since I'm posting it page by page, I'm using Rich's punchline-per-strip format, at least for the beginning.

I'm not making a convincing argument, am I?

There's no need to argue. The term "webcomic" doesn't refer to a format, or a genre, or a structure. It refers merely to a method by which product is distributed.

If you wrote one comic, of any sort, of any quality, of any type, genre, description, or tone, and posted it on the web, then by definition it is a "webcomic."

It's just not an UNLIMITED webcomic.

[Gefangnis]

It also does not have the webcomic conventions, like an update schedule. It gets posted as I finish it. Which should be about 1-2 strips every week.

[Xpi6]

How do you guys think I should post this? I'm thinking the cover page, then each page in its own spoiler tag.

Right now the story is divided into 3 acts, each one about 20-30 strips.

So that would be 60-90 spoiler tags, all stacked up?
You might want to think about nesting those suckers!
A la:
Act I
Sub-act 1 (or Strips #1-5, or whatever)Strip 1 (dunno if each strip should have its own spoiler tag? or not?)
Strip 2
Strip 3
...

Sub-act 2 (or Strips #6-10, or whatever)Strip 6
Strip 7
...

...

Act IILather, rinse, and repeat!

Act IIIOnce more, me hearties!


Either that, or post each strip in a new comment in this thread as it's done, and add a link to the strip comments to a TOC in Comment #1. Oh, and a link to the Cover/Cast/TOC, previous and next strip comments to each such strip comment.i.e. at the bottom of, say strip #5
| Cover/Cast/TOC (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2863169#post2863169) | Strip #4 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2863169#post#forStrip#4) << Strip #5 >> Strip #6 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2863169#post#forStrip#6) |
Alternatively, if you find that this thread starts to get clogged up with speculation over ongoing events :smallconfused: and/or moaning over the tardiness of your next posting :smallfrown: , your ongoing unreliability :smallyuk: , comments as to how THAT particular character COULD/WOULD/SHOULD NEVER EVER do THAT particular action :smallfurious: (even though you probably had it planned out from the start :smallsmile: ), or even the odd kudos :smallbiggrin: or two, then you might wish to pursue official sanction, even to the extent that FanFiction is given its own Comics Section Forum, so that you can post each strip in a new , easily discoverable thread.

[GusGusStrumSong]

I'm eager to see how this will all play out...

[Gefangnis]

And we're off! Page 1 is posted.

[kpenguin]

Dude... that booping awesome. I happily await Page 2:smallbiggrin:

[Gefangnis]

I appreciate the feedback. Really, I do. You have no idea how much I do.

I didn't like the ugly color in the spoiler tag, so it's now posted as a link to the image.

[Kurien]

kpenguin pretty much nailed what I was going to say :smalltongue:.

The art is good. The colours are great, the text accurate, and the objects are drawn nicely. However, although it could be just your style, I think that the heads on the characters should be bigger in proportion to the body. That way, it would look even closer to the OOTS style.

[Gefangnis]

kpenguin pretty much nailed what I was going to say :smalltongue:.

The art is good. The colours are great, the text accurate, and the objects are drawn nicely. However, although it could be just your style, I think that the heads on the characters should be bigger in proportion to the body. That way, it would look even closer to the OOTS style.

I certainly see what you mean, now that you point it out. Thanks for the tip.

[Brickwall]

Hmm...if you want some fine-point art criticism, I will lend you a hand.

The eyes should be in the middle of the head when looking forward, thus leaving more room for hair or headwear (the girl's hair definitely needs this the most). The bodies should stay as rectangles (or the female pear shapes), and the only bend should be where they meet the joints. This includes kneeling.

[Gefangnis]

Hmm...if you want some fine-point art criticism, I will lend you a hand.

The eyes should be in the middle of the head when looking forward, thus leaving more room for hair or headwear (the girl's hair definitely needs this the most). The bodies should stay as rectangles (or the female pear shapes), and the only bend should be where they meet the joints. This includes kneeling.

Ok, thanks for the pointers.

[kpenguin]

Of course, that is all classic OotS-style. What you do with your own fanart is up to you. Having your own take on the style is allowed.

[Ichneumon]

*after reading the first page*

I like it. Keep them coming, this seems great.:smallsmile:

[Surfing HalfOrc]

This really isn't a webcomic though. It's got a start, a middle and an ending. Think of it as a fanfic, but in OOTS art form.

Could you link me to these other OOTS-type comics? My interest has been piqued.

Here are a couple:

http://oott.smackjeeves.com/comics/114857/

http://legendary.comicgenesis.com/d/20060710.html

But I like what I've seen of yours best, since it ties into the rest of the story, without actually being a part of Rich's story. Sort of like listening to two different people discribe their experiences in Greyhawk or the Forgotten Realms. Same place, totally different stories.

[TreesOfDeath]

Tagged for reading.

i have to ask, why is the art in the prologue comic better than in the main comic?

Anyway its too early to judge yet, but this could be promising

[Gefangnis]

Tagged for reading.

i have to ask, why is the art in the prologue comic better than in the main comic?

Anyway its too early to judge yet, but this could be promising

Well, it's all my art.

Speaking of which, arrgh! My computer crashed and I lost a lot of progress on page 2. This may cause a delay.

[Brickwall]

I finally figured out the last thing I wanted to say.

The bodies are too long above the waist. Far too long. Make them about 75% of that size above the waist, and it'll look much better.

Also, that handshake isn't a regular handshake. One of them would need to have their hand cross-body, otherwise it's a right and left hand shaking (maybe a secret handshake, but there are better ways to signify that).

Sorry that I am spending all my time criticizing the art. It's a good comic, but if you're going to imitate a style, you might as well do it right.

[Gefangnis]

I finally figured out the last thing I wanted to say.

The bodies are too long above the waist. Far too long. Make them about 75% of that size above the waist, and it'll look much better.

Also, that handshake isn't a regular handshake. One of them would need to have their hand cross-body, otherwise it's a right and left hand shaking (maybe a secret handshake, but there are better ways to signify that).

Sorry that I am spending all my time criticizing the art. It's a good comic, but if you're going to imitate a style, you might as well do it right.

No, these are things I really appreciate. Please tell me if you find anything else wrong, and I'm going to try these things in the next page.

I think you're wrong about the arms and legs bending, though, because they do all the time in the regular comic. for an example, just look at Haley's appendages in the first few panels in the latest comic (Belkar's appendages are too short to bend.. teehee).

[Brickwall]

Haley's torso doesn't bend, just her limbs. Is that at all a contradiction to what I said before? What did I say before?

Okay, when I said "the only bend should be where they meet the joints," I meant shoulders and hips. I was only refering to the body itself, which is always a rectangle or pear-type girl shape.

[Gefangnis]

Oh, I see what you meant. I thought you meant arms and legs. Well, I made an exception to the bending torso in the opener and it looked great, so I'm not complaining. I'll avoid that in the future though.

[Nathan]

Haley's torso doesn't bend, just her limbs. Is that at all a contradiction to what I said before? What did I say before?

Okay, when I said "the only bend should be where they meet the joints," I meant shoulders and hips. I was only refering to the body itself, which is always a rectangle or pear-type girl shape.

Torsos (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0408.html) do bend (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0380.html) in the (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0424.html) Giant's comic. Very rarely, though.

At any rate - I think what's important is that it looks good. You'll never be able to perfectly mimic his style. The important part is making it look good to you. Anyway. That's what all the after-school specials said.

[Brickwall]

At any rate - I think what's important is that it looks good.
True

You'll never be able to perfectly mimic his style
Not true; I have seen it done by one or two avatar makers.

Anyway, ElfLad has taken some artistic liberties with his webcomic, but they look good, so I don't complain.

[Terraxos]

Just posting to say that I think this is a brilliant idea, and am looking forward to reading more of the comic!

I do have one comment about style, though - if you are trying to imitate the Giant's style as much as possible, you should understand that panel 3 of page 1 is an angle almost never used in his comic. OOTS comics are virtually all drawn from a side-on perspective, never from the 'character's-eye view' angle here. (The only exception I can think of is the first panel of 105 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0105.html) - there may be one or two others.)

Personally though, I wouldn't worry too much about trying to copy the Giant's style exactly. Page 1 is still clearly an OOTS-style comic, and that's all that matters; if you use the odd unusual angle or slightly different character art, no one is going to mind. You should feel free to draw things differently according to your own preferences.

Anyway, good luck!

[KuduzDrHector]

Very promising, looking forward for the next comic mate.

[Gefangnis]

Ahh! Why did no one tell me I made a spelling mistake in one of the banners? :smalleek: Fixed.

I'm changing some art style, so the second page is taking a while.

[Renegade Paladin]

Ahh! Why did no one tell me I made a spelling mistake in one of the banners? :smalleek: Fixed.
No it isn't. They still clearly read "bandana," which is not a word in the English language. :smalltongue: The word you're searching for is "bandanna."

[Gefangnis]

Hmmm... no, you're wrong there.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bandana

I had a typo in the small ones - 'Awesome' was 'Awesom.'

[kpenguin]

It can also be spelled bandanna (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bandanna)

[Gefangnis]

Right, but it works either way.

[Surfing HalfOrc]

There is a thread on drawing OotS type characters already, and I'm including a link to it, in case you are interested:

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33471

OotS characters are divided into thirds, 1/3 is the head, 1/3 is the body (no-neck neck area to groin area) and 1/3 legs, except for halflings, dwarves and gnomes. Currently your characters are a bit taller and "thinner" than Rich's characters, more like 1/4 head, 2/4 (1/2) body, and 1/4 legs.

But honestly art style is sometimes far less important than story. I've seen some AMAZINGLY well drawn stories that were boring as hell, and I've seen stick figures that keep me enthralled for months, and to the point I am willing to spend money to get more! So, I'd say worry less about the proportions of your drawings, and focus on what promises to be an excellent story!

[Brickwall]

Although good art can't hurt. Just because story>art doesn't mean that you don't need a certain level of artistic appeal to make a comic. It's a graphic-based storytelling medium, and if the graphics are not appealing, you're losing quite a bit of the attraction of comics.

[Gefangnis]

Between my own campaign, a campaign I'm playing in, and various painting/construction work projects, further progress in Redemption will be delayed a few days.

I've been having trouble fixing the art style, though, so I'm considering taking on an assistant artist. This artist would assist me in creating the art for the pages of Redemption, and perhaps eventually (if willing) completely take over the drawing of Redemption. Anyone interested should let me know, and as an audition-type-thing, provide at least one panel of the first page with their interpretation of Rich's art style. If you don't want to do that, draw one of the characters from Redemption as you imagine them. Really, you can do anything that has to do with Redemption and is in OOTS style.

I've got a great storyline set up, so if you're interested and you have a lot of free time, at the very least mention your interest. You'd be fully credited and everything.

[kpenguin]

So... are you going to continue making the comic if nobody volunteers, colinmarc?

[Ichneumon]

I think it is a bad sign when the artist is already thinking of taking an assistant after the first page...:smallfrown:

I really liked this, please continue.:smallsmile:

[Gefangnis]

I'm almost done with the second page, but I'm a really slow artist and I'm trying to get it right.

Also, lots of things are keeping me away from the computer.

[ClericofPhwarrr]

It looks superb, and it's drawing me into the plot much faster than I thought it could (first page, and I'm already practically hooked? Yeesh!). I look forward to the next page. :smallsmile:

[ChimericPhase]

More! More!

I would like to request one thing though...

Could you maybe edit your 1st post with links to the latest pages? It's hard to find updates by scrolling through all the replies, and eventually it'll get too long.

You could put them behind spoilers, like a spoiler for the first chapter, and a spoiler for your banners - so that everything is still there.

Also ... am seriously considering auditioning as an artist asistant, but then self-doubt consumes me!

[Gefangnis]

I promise it's not dead, really, I've just been hella hella busy.

Another artist, though, would make it a lot easier to churn out strips.

[kpenguin]

So, in lieu of more updates, let us turn to what these boards have always done: wanton speculation?

What alignment are these guys? Level?

The strip is called Redemption, so will the first arc be about Remmin falling? A guy with a bandanna looks pretty chaotic and being the friend of a rogue...

[Gez]

I'm not sure one is "graduated" into an elite order of holy warrior... "Knighted", "sworn in" or even just "accepted" would be better.

Graduated just bugs me.

[Firestar27]

Quick tip regarding the hands: It looks like you used the brush tool, but I think the hands are typically made with the line and pointer tool. You draw a line (with the line tool) from ends of the outer fingers. Then, using the pointer tool, you bend the line (from the center of the line) until it reaches the arm. Then you draw another line to make the middle finger.
Other than that, this is great!
Also, how did you make the blur effects?
And can you put all the comics in a spoiler box (using the IMG code) in the first post (one spoiler box for each comic)? (Instead of putting a link to each comic.)

[Lyinginbedmon]

Speaking of spoilers, it's very tricky to spot the comic in the first post amidst the mass of banner info, that should probably be spoilered under a heading as well.

Otherwise, this is looking pretty nice. Certainly better than my first art productions around here :tongue:

[Mr_Saturn]

Too bad colinmarc hasnt signed on since october 17th.

This comic had great potential. :smallsigh:

[Lyinginbedmon]

Perhaps it has something to do with his 666 posts? :smalltongue:

[Mr_Saturn]

Haha, perhaps ill stop posting at 1337 posts. Maybe make a new account. :smallwink:

[chef781]

if you go to strip 448 as it links on the first page, go to the last panel and look under the lady propped up on a sword, just right of xykon, you will see his body.

just sayin'

[Lyinginbedmon]

Okay, so we know then that colinmarc already has part of the storyline plotted :smalltongue:

[chef781]

also if you look on panel 8 of 449, you will see him rising at the bottom left corner.:smallbiggrin:

[Quinsar]

sigh I think its dead

[Chronicled]

Yeah, it probably is... which sucks, I was looking forward to this.

[Yeril]

Good old redemption, T'was the first in the Fan-web-comic series here, shame it didn't kick off.

[Ichneumon]

This is the most popular comic after just 1 page... and it died.

What a shame.

I am happy it isn't part of the comic madness that is going on right now. Everyone is submitting webcomic and I am quite sure many of them will stop after 1 or 2 comics. (No offence, I do not mean yours!)

[chef781]

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0493.html

here, at the bottom of the last panel, it shows our star climbing

[chef781]

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0462.html

here on the 4th panel, you can see our man's body, on the far left.:smallamused:

[Lyinginbedmon]

Okay, so we've seen the star a number of times (Obviously Mr Burlew enjoys him), have we any sign of our artist? :smallconfused:

[KuduzDrHector]

No, seems like it's dead mate... Shame as it had a lot of potential.

[Quinsar]

Colinmarc is back!!!!

[Gefangnis]

Hey guys, really sorry this died. The thing that killed it was that my hard drive died and I lost all of the art I had done for it. Now that I have more free time I'll think about starting it up again.

[Lyinginbedmon]

YES! Give me a reason to keep it in the index!

Come on, give me a reason! :smallamused:

[Gefangnis]

Heh, I saw that someone called it "good old redemption" and that really did it for me.

Wow, I knew I was the first, but I thought I was only. There are tons of OOTS comics now! Did I... start that trend? *shiver*

Alright, here's the plan people. I will go dig up the old plot notes, but if I have to draw (and I'd pretty much have to learn the OOTS style again) it'll take a while. So. I'll take one artist to draw for me, and to this artist I will feed complete strip plans, etc. You won't be an assistant artist, you'll be the artist. I'll only take someone I know from back when I used to be on these boards alot and who I trust.

If that doesn't work out, I'll still do it myself, but updates will be a lot slower. I'm a slow artist, because it takes me a lot of time to get it looking right/perfect.

[Maulrus]

Huzzah! I'm really looking forward to seeing this back!

[Ichneumon]

You know. I think this comic has potential.