At will spells with metamagic?

[Falcii]

I am about to start getting several spells at will on my Beguiler build. I also have several metamagic feats. How does applying metamagic to an at spell work, say the range doubling one or silent and still spell, if normally it increases the spell level, but here there is no spell slot used at all.

[Mordaedil]

You need a spellslot of the right level to use a metamagic with it and the casting time increases to a full-round action to cast it.

[schreier]

Also - The feat Rapid Metamagic (Complete Mage, p. 46) -When you apply a metamagic feat to a spontaneously cast spell, the spell takes only its normal casting time.

[Necroticplague]

Depends. What method are you using to get at-will spells? Normally, the methods I know of involve turning the spell into an SLA, which would stop you from being able to add metamagic to it.

[schreier]

Sorry - I misread - are you talking about reserve feats? If so - then ya, no metamagic

[nedz]

Are these SLAs (Spell Like Abilities) or Spells ?

"At Will" is normally associated with the former - not the latter.

If they are SLAs then there are several SLA only Metamagic feats you could use - also you can use any Metamagic feat which doesn't increase the spell level (e.g. the Sudden X feats).

[Falcii]

Sorry for the confusion, the spells in mind are from loredelver levels and the feat come from just taking them, I genuinely dont know what reserved feats are.

But no loredelver does not say they are spell like abilities

[Necroticplague]

Sorry for the confusion, the spells in mind are from loredelver levels and the feat come from just taking them, I genuinely dont know what reserved feats are.

But no loredelver does not say they are spell like abilities

Actually, it does say they're SLAs.



Detect Magic (Sp): A loredelver develops a preternatural sense for the presence of magic. At 2nd level and higher, you can use detect magic (as the spell, page 219 of the Player's Handbook) at will.
Bold for emphasis. SP is short for Spell-like ability, just as EX is for Extraordinary and SU is Supernatural. So it's an SLA, and you can't apply metamagic to it. In fact, the ability to use it is entirely separate from your spellcasting ability. However, being an SLA also has several upsides, like not having any verbal, somatic, material, focus, or XP components.

[Falcii]

Gah reading is hard. Ty so much