ksbsnowowl
2016-10-23, 03:36 PM
I'm a DM running a game that incorporates the Taint rules from Heroes of Horror. I've run into a situation that makes me unsure how to proceed.
Two very basic Taint aspects:
There are Tainted Locations, and entering such a location requires a DC 20 Will save to not gain a point of Depravity (ie - mental taint).
There are Taint Elementals, which will ooze their way out of the corpse of a killed tainted creature. Their slam attack inflicts Corruption (ie - physical body taint) (Fort save resists accumulating Corruption).
How would these aspects of the Taint rules interact with a Quori? Specifically, my party of PC's has a Psion with the Project Quori Spirit power from Magic of Eberron, but I'm also curious how it would interact with a Riedran Empty Vessel that was currently inhabited by its Quori Spirit. I have quoted the relevant parts of the psionic power in question at the end of this post.
Would the possessing Quori Spirit gain and start accumulating Depravity if it used vessels to repeatedly go in to investigate a Tainted Location? Or would the Depravity be limited to the vessel it is forcing to go into such areas? Would the possessing Quori gain and start accumulating Corruption if its vessel was struck by a Taint Elemental?
My initial thoughts are that the Quori would start accumulating Depravity (as would the vessel it is inhabiting), but only the Empty Vessel would acquire Corruption. Translated into the power, below, the random Quori spirit that is projected would also acquire Depravity, but Corruption would be limited to the short-term shell that the power creates (and thus Corruption is effectively moot with regards to the power). Since the Quori spirit that is projected is likely random (as opposed to a specific being called each time), any one Quori in Dal Quor is likely to only gain 1 or 2 points of Depravity over a long period of this power being used, but over time, this could grow into a problem/plot, as the Quori would begin to hold a grudge against any character calling them and subjecting them to Depravity, and may seek them out via other means.
Unfortunately, being a power rather than a spell, I don't have a [Summoning] or [Calling] tag to better illuminate if the projected spirit suffers lasting effects from what happens to it while it is projected. Though the power mentions summoning, it is only in regards to how the creature behaves in a tactical sense; it doesn't deal with permanency/impermanency of its death (since it essentially uses the possession rules inherent to Quori anyway, at least according to the fluff text in the first paragraph.)
So, what are your thoughts? Would the projected Quori Spirit gain Depravity? Would a projected Quori Spirit remember what happened to it while it was being forcibly projected? After several hundred Quori gained a small bit of Depravity, would it be a good sub-plot of a campaign to have them begin actively working against a PC (and various NPC's) that use & abuse them in this way?
This power creates a quasi-real mental projection of a tsoreva quori spirit of Dal Quor, the Region of Dreams. Although the quori spirits are trapped within Dal Quor, a psion using this power can create a shell resembling the physical form of a quori. This shell is then temporarily inhabited by a quori spirit.
A projected quori spirit behaves much like a summoned monster. It appears where you designate and acts immediately, on your turn. It attacks your opponents to the best of its ability. If you speak Quori, you can direct it not to attack, to attack a particular enemy, or to perform other actions.
A projected quori spirit is subject to dismissal or any other effect that removes possession, such as the domain power granted by the Exorcism domain (see page 106 of the EBERRON Campaign Setting).
Two very basic Taint aspects:
There are Tainted Locations, and entering such a location requires a DC 20 Will save to not gain a point of Depravity (ie - mental taint).
There are Taint Elementals, which will ooze their way out of the corpse of a killed tainted creature. Their slam attack inflicts Corruption (ie - physical body taint) (Fort save resists accumulating Corruption).
How would these aspects of the Taint rules interact with a Quori? Specifically, my party of PC's has a Psion with the Project Quori Spirit power from Magic of Eberron, but I'm also curious how it would interact with a Riedran Empty Vessel that was currently inhabited by its Quori Spirit. I have quoted the relevant parts of the psionic power in question at the end of this post.
Would the possessing Quori Spirit gain and start accumulating Depravity if it used vessels to repeatedly go in to investigate a Tainted Location? Or would the Depravity be limited to the vessel it is forcing to go into such areas? Would the possessing Quori gain and start accumulating Corruption if its vessel was struck by a Taint Elemental?
My initial thoughts are that the Quori would start accumulating Depravity (as would the vessel it is inhabiting), but only the Empty Vessel would acquire Corruption. Translated into the power, below, the random Quori spirit that is projected would also acquire Depravity, but Corruption would be limited to the short-term shell that the power creates (and thus Corruption is effectively moot with regards to the power). Since the Quori spirit that is projected is likely random (as opposed to a specific being called each time), any one Quori in Dal Quor is likely to only gain 1 or 2 points of Depravity over a long period of this power being used, but over time, this could grow into a problem/plot, as the Quori would begin to hold a grudge against any character calling them and subjecting them to Depravity, and may seek them out via other means.
Unfortunately, being a power rather than a spell, I don't have a [Summoning] or [Calling] tag to better illuminate if the projected spirit suffers lasting effects from what happens to it while it is projected. Though the power mentions summoning, it is only in regards to how the creature behaves in a tactical sense; it doesn't deal with permanency/impermanency of its death (since it essentially uses the possession rules inherent to Quori anyway, at least according to the fluff text in the first paragraph.)
So, what are your thoughts? Would the projected Quori Spirit gain Depravity? Would a projected Quori Spirit remember what happened to it while it was being forcibly projected? After several hundred Quori gained a small bit of Depravity, would it be a good sub-plot of a campaign to have them begin actively working against a PC (and various NPC's) that use & abuse them in this way?
This power creates a quasi-real mental projection of a tsoreva quori spirit of Dal Quor, the Region of Dreams. Although the quori spirits are trapped within Dal Quor, a psion using this power can create a shell resembling the physical form of a quori. This shell is then temporarily inhabited by a quori spirit.
A projected quori spirit behaves much like a summoned monster. It appears where you designate and acts immediately, on your turn. It attacks your opponents to the best of its ability. If you speak Quori, you can direct it not to attack, to attack a particular enemy, or to perform other actions.
A projected quori spirit is subject to dismissal or any other effect that removes possession, such as the domain power granted by the Exorcism domain (see page 106 of the EBERRON Campaign Setting).