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Exocist
2016-10-26, 06:55 AM
Whether they're fully fleshed or just an amalgam of classes :smalltongue:

Also suggest changes to other people's if you think it will improve it.

I'll start:


Shaman of the Wastes

Classes: Shaman (OA) 5/Walker in the Waste 10/X 5

Race: Asherati
Domains: Hero (OA), Sand (SA)

FEATS:
1: Heat Endurance (Racial), Extend Spell
3: Persistant Spell
6: Divine Metamagic (Persistent Spell)
Rest: Free


VOP-Dite

Classes: Erudite 1/Incarnate [Good] 1/Erudite +5/Soul Manifester 10/X 4

Race: Any

Feats:
1: Sacred Vow, FLAW: Vow of Poverty (Get it? VoP is the Flaw...), Convert Spell to Power (Erudite Bonus)
3: Free
6: Open Least Chakra (Crown), Telepathy 100ft (Erudite Bonus)
Rest: Free

weckar
2016-10-26, 08:39 AM
Pathfinder Goblin Gunslinger. The point was that it was a Small creature fully proficient in the use of a Large gun (and made use of Heavy Recoil to reposition himself). I played it for a demo once but I'd love to take him into a campaign.

He wore a fedora and sunglasses, of course.

thorr-kan
2016-10-26, 09:33 AM
LN Frostblood Half-orc Stalward Battle Sorcerer
Frostblood half-orc: dragonblood subtype, Resistance to Cold 10, Endurance (bonus feat), and Vulnerability to Fire.
Martial Weapon Proficiency (kurki) - Battle Sorcerer bonus feat
Martial Weapon Proficiency (warhammer) - Stalwart Sorcerer bonus feat
Weapon Focus (warhammer) - Stalwart Sorcerer bonus feat

1 - Mother Cyst (LM, bonus for flaw), Endurance (PH, bonus for race), Necormantic Bloodline (DragonMagComp), Arcane Fatigue [Flaw] (DragMag333), Divine Companion (for familiar, CompChamp).
2 - N/A
3 - Corrupt Arcane Studies (Ghostwalk).
4 - Dragonblood Sorcerer substitution 4th-level (Races of the Dragon).
5 - Domain Access (for Spells Know, CompChamp).
6 - Charnel Miasma (CompChamp).

Future feats: White Dragon Heritage (DragMagic), Kin Mastery (DragonMagComp).

(This isn't a character I've played. But it's one I've designed, and the backstory keeps burning a hole in my mind (insert obligatory B5 reference here).)

Lorddenorstrus
2016-10-26, 09:39 AM
My jumping crit Fisher... Dragonborn water orc warblade. Idea was early game mobility to jump around like no tomorrow. The concept just amused me.

claypigeons
2016-10-26, 10:13 AM
Any non-gish melee build. I always end up playing casters because none of the other players will play them (too much book keeping, too squishy, etc.).

Kurald Galain
2016-10-26, 10:19 AM
Master Specialist Conjurer / Spellthief / Ultimate Magus.

Goblin blacksmith with oversized hammer.

Barbarian / Wizard / Knight Phantom gish build.

Darth_Versity
2016-10-26, 10:33 AM
Changeling Beguiler who is an assassin raised by the church of Shar.

He'd use glamered armour and a morphing/sizing weapon so that he could look like anyone at any time.

While he is evil, he only takes life when necessary, believing that he is creating a better world by killing key individuals that cause chaos. As such he prefers to incapacitate foes, thus the beguiler spell list.

Whenever he has a target he must kill he will hold them in place with bindings or hold person before giving a short speech about how their death is for the good of all before taking on the form of a skeleton and creating a scythe to coup de grace them.

Sandsarecool
2016-10-26, 10:49 AM
Commoner 20, duh.
If only to see how long I could survive with naught but magic items.

Whenever we play a high level game, I always have something that fits better thematically, or plays better, or... annoys the party less.

MisterKaws
2016-10-26, 11:06 AM
Karsite Sorcerer, for sure:

Karsite(ToM) Sorcerer 18

ACFs: Stalwart Sorcerer(CM), Battle Sorcerer(UA), Spell Shield(DgS), Dragonblood Sorcerer(RotD, lv4), Domain Access(CC), Dragonpacts (DM).

2 - LA, Medium Armor Proficiency, Martial Weapon proficiency, DR 5/Magic, SR 10+HD, Magic Drain(Sp, Cha-based), Spell Healing
3 - Stalwart, Battle Sorcerer, Spell Shield, Draconic Heritage, Draconic Breath
4 -
5 - Blue Dragon Lineage
6 - Dragonblood Sorcerer Sl-Ability(lv1, Nerveskitter), Dragonpact(lv2)
7 - Domain Access(CC)
8 - Obtain Familiar(CA), Sl-Ability(lv2, Wings of Cover), Dragonpact(lv3)
9 -
10- Sl-Ability(lv3, Wings of Cover), Dragonpact(lv4)
11- Improved Familiar(CW, Winter Wolf)
12- Sl-Ability(lv4, Celerity), Dragonpact(lv5)
13-
14- Arcane Strike, Sl-Ability(lv5, Arcane Fusion, CM), Dragonpact(lv6)
15-
16- Sl-Ability(lv6, Arcane Fusion), Dragonpact(lv7)
17- Spell-Linked Familiar
18- Sl-Ability(lv7, Arcane Fusion), Dragonpact(lv8)
19-
20- Martial Training(Shadow Stride)/Open, Sl-Ability(lv8, Greater Arcane Fusion), Dragonpact(lv9)

Meanlucario
2016-10-26, 11:10 AM
Would a list of characters waiting to be used count?

lylsyly
2016-10-26, 12:03 PM
GESTALT: Specialist Wizard Conjurer on one side/ Cleric (Probably) or Druid on the other. Optimized for Summoning.

Favorite line - "Hey. You guys take a break, I got this."

Malroth
2016-10-26, 12:18 PM
Gnome Shadowcraft mage.

RedMage125
2016-10-26, 12:23 PM
Kobold paladin. Rides a Celestial Dire Weasel. Worships Bahamut, and thinks of himself as a bold dragon-knight.

The Anti-Caster. Abjurer 3/Master Specialist 9/Initiate of Sevenfold Veil 7/Archmage 1. Feats for Reactive Counterspell, and take Mastery of Counterspelling as his High Arcana. Shutdown most, if not all enemy casters.

Padishar
2016-10-26, 12:23 PM
Always wanted to play a character that dual-wielded Quick-Loading crossbows

Inevitability
2016-10-26, 12:27 PM
Karsite Sorcerer, for sure:

Karsite(ToM) Sorcerer 18

ACFs: Stalwart Sorcerer(CM), Battle Sorcerer(UA), Spell Shield(DgS), Dragonblood Sorcerer(RotD, lv4), Domain Access(CC), Dragonpacts (DM).

2 - LA, Medium Armor Proficiency, Martial Weapon proficiency, DR 5/Magic, SR 10+HD, Magic Drain(Sp, Cha-based), Spell Healing
3 - Stalwart, Battle Sorcerer, Spell Shield, Draconic Heritage, Draconic Breath
4 -
5 - Blue Dragon Lineage
6 - Dragonblood Sorcerer Sl-Ability(lv1, Nerveskitter), Dragonpact(lv2)
7 - Domain Access(CC)
8 - Obtain Familiar(CA), Sl-Ability(lv2, Wings of Cover), Dragonpact(lv3)
9 -
10- Sl-Ability(lv3, Wings of Cover), Dragonpact(lv4)
11- Improved Familiar(CW, Winter Wolf)
12- Sl-Ability(lv4, Celerity), Dragonpact(lv5)
13-
14- Arcane Strike, Sl-Ability(lv5, Arcane Fusion, CM), Dragonpact(lv6)
15-
16- Sl-Ability(lv6, Arcane Fusion), Dragonpact(lv7)
17- Spell-Linked Familiar
18- Sl-Ability(lv7, Arcane Fusion), Dragonpact(lv8)
19-
20- Martial Training(Shadow Stride)/Open, Sl-Ability(lv8, Greater Arcane Fusion), Dragonpact(lv9)

I was going to mention karsites can't cast spells... then I took a proper look at your build. Kudos to you, good sir.

Kaje
2016-10-26, 12:38 PM
Karsite Sorcerer, for sure:

Karsite(ToM) Sorcerer 18

ACFs: Stalwart Sorcerer(CM), Battle Sorcerer(UA), Spell Shield(DgS), Dragonblood Sorcerer(RotD, lv4), Domain Access(CC), Dragonpacts (DM).

2 - LA, Medium Armor Proficiency, Martial Weapon proficiency, DR 5/Magic, SR 10+HD, Magic Drain(Sp, Cha-based), Spell Healing
3 - Stalwart, Battle Sorcerer, Spell Shield, Draconic Heritage, Draconic Breath
4 -
5 - Blue Dragon Lineage
6 - Dragonblood Sorcerer Sl-Ability(lv1, Nerveskitter), Dragonpact(lv2)
7 - Domain Access(CC)
8 - Obtain Familiar(CA), Sl-Ability(lv2, Wings of Cover), Dragonpact(lv3)
9 -
10- Sl-Ability(lv3, Wings of Cover), Dragonpact(lv4)
11- Improved Familiar(CW, Winter Wolf)
12- Sl-Ability(lv4, Celerity), Dragonpact(lv5)
13-
14- Arcane Strike, Sl-Ability(lv5, Arcane Fusion, CM), Dragonpact(lv6)
15-
16- Sl-Ability(lv6, Arcane Fusion), Dragonpact(lv7)
17- Spell-Linked Familiar
18- Sl-Ability(lv7, Arcane Fusion), Dragonpact(lv8)
19-
20- Martial Training(Shadow Stride)/Open, Sl-Ability(lv8, Greater Arcane Fusion), Dragonpact(lv9)

I love this. One point, battle sorc doesn't seem to do anything positive except give you intimidate. Is that worth the loss of slots?

Inevitability
2016-10-26, 12:59 PM
I love this. One point, battle sorc doesn't seem to do anything positive except give you intimidate. Is that worth the loss of slots?

Higher HD, better BAB, armor proficiency...

Deadline
2016-10-26, 01:04 PM
I love this. One point, battle sorc doesn't seem to do anything positive except give you intimidate. Is that worth the loss of slots?

It gives you better HP, medium BAB, and armor training. Since Karsite prevents you from ever really casting spells, you are only using your spell slots to fuel Spell Shield, Arcane Strike or Draconic Breath), the loss of a few spell slots isn't all that painful. I think. I don't actually know what you gain from Domain Access and the Dragonpacts.

Kaje
2016-10-26, 01:08 PM
Yeah, I remembered after posting that it was battle, not stalwart, that ups your bab. It doesn't help your armor prof however because karsites already have that.

Meanlucario
2016-10-26, 01:17 PM
I'll take the silences as a yes.
Anyway, a few would be my Tiefling Scout pirate that lives in the crow's nest, my Human Warrior bounty hunter that is also a Master of Chains, the Human Shadowcaster and the Elf Dread Necromancer, My Warforged Warpriest (1 Cleric/what every Paladin I need), the Shifter Ninja. Asherati Healer, Spellscale Spellthief, Vanara Beguiler, a Paladin/Gray Guard, my Changeling Swashbuckler, and the Allurin Noble from the Dragonlance book.

Droopy McCool
2016-10-26, 03:07 PM
I'll have to find the actual build, but I had one that was a straight Bard with a Fighter dip. While it sounds uninteresting, it was more for the fact that the character would act and function like a Paladin, with stuff like Divine Bard, some healing ACF, and the right feats to make it work. Didn't have any smiting ability, if I recall correctly.

However, it was one of the first builds I made while pulling from many sources without much system knowledge, so it's probably not great. Also my group does PF now, while that was a 3.5 build. I suppose I could redo the concept in PF though...

Tvtyrant
2016-10-26, 04:16 PM
Jermlaine Druid who rides his Eagle animal companion as a mount. Gets flight very early, and as a tiny character I would have high AC and to hit. Plus I get to be a horrible little gremlin creatures.

Sicarius Victis
2016-10-26, 04:28 PM
TWF-focused Gestalt Duskblade and "Mailman" Sorcerer. Combine Sorc's massive single-target damage with TWF Duskblade's ability to hit a lot of people with one single-target spell to seriously screw with your DM's plans. Bonus fun if you pretend to be a pure "Mailman" build, so that you can reveal your kill-everything-around-you abilities when the DM tries to defend against your "Mailman" stuff with larger amounts of smaller enemies.

MisterKaws
2016-10-26, 05:01 PM
I don't actually know what you gain from Domain Access and the Dragonpacts.

Well, you don't lose anything for it(Known spells? HAH), so might as well get some domain powers and SLAs. I left it open because what you put there really depends on the campaign.

mabriss lethe
2016-10-26, 05:07 PM
My core only Blender Monk: Monk/Sorc or assassin/dragon disciple/shadowdancer.

My collection of NPC class builds that do fun things:
-Gorkus the Unclean: Warrior 1-20 with feats crossing multiple heritages that grant natural weapons.
-Fuzzybritches: Also Warrior 1-20, but with all feats dedicated to animal devotion.
-Agent 00EXPERT: Expert 1-20 with "all the best skills" as their class skills eventually going into a IF abuse
-Lord Allois Vandecourt: Charisma and Int based aristocrat know it all with knowledge devotion.

Kaje
2016-10-26, 05:13 PM
Well, you don't lose anything for it(Known spells? HAH), so might as well get some domain powers. I left it open because what you there really depends on the campaign.

I'd take the Travel domain and dump it for Travel Devotion 1/day.




Some builds I'd like to take for a spin:

Half-Drow Commoner 1/ Survivor 5/ Half-Elf Paragon 3/ Human Paragon 3/ Fortune's Friend 5/ Drow Paragon 3.
-Just because I'd like to see if I can do something with something so mediocre.

Shifter Ranger 1/ SBT WT Barbarian 2/ Warblade 1/ Warshaper 2/ Weretouched Master (Tiger) 5/ Warshaper 2/ Bloodclaw Master 5/ Warblade 2
-I was always super-unimpressed with Shifters, until I realized the key was to optimize them as a Shifter, rather than as, say, a Ranger or a Barbarian.

Kobold Scout 1/ Fighter 2/ Cleric 1/ Scout 16
-Uses his prehensile dragon tail to reload dual hand crossbows and travel devotion to trigger skirmish.

Azurin SLT WT Berserker Strength Barbarian 2/ Incarnate 2 / Crusader 16
She's tough as nails, healing herself while she attacks with a greatsword, making shock trooper's lowered ac more viable. And if her hp does get low enough, diehard and berserker strength kick in.

SnugUndies
2016-10-26, 05:40 PM
I'd really like to try a warforged shaper. Psicrystal + vigor + share pain is a classic, but stacking psionic repair damage on top of that sounds great. Plus, minor creation from level 1 and immunity to poison. I couldn't imagine ever running out of options.

MisterKaws
2016-10-26, 07:14 PM
Forgot this other one. It's a pretty silly build, overall, but I guess it's still decent?


Race:Silverbrow Human

1 - Monk(Decisive Strike, Cobra Strike Dodge) - Unorthodox Flurry, Imp. Initiative
2 - Human Paragon(Concentration)
3 - Rogue(Poison Use) - Craven
4 - Swashbuckler
5 - Incarnate
6 - Binder - Praticed Binder
7 - Totemist
8 - Cloistered Cleric(Travel Devotion, Time)
9 - Swordsage - Adaptive Style
10- Wizard(Abrupt Jaunt)
11- Barbarian(CC Lion Totem, Favored Enemy)
12- Hit-and-Run Fighter - Superior Unarmed Strike, Shadow Blade
13- Crusader
14- Warblade
15- Master of Nine - Extra Granted Maneuver
16- Scout
17- Exemplar
18- Factotum - Bonus Essentia
19- Incandescent Blade
20- Spellthief

supersonic29
2016-10-26, 08:30 PM
One of the taint based classes, surely tainted sorcerer. I've never found a DM that I could get away with using the metamagic benefits despite con damage immunity under. Though even dipping binder to heal it off would make for a fun time.

Rebel7284
2016-10-26, 10:19 PM
Lots of builds:

Wizard/Swiftblade/Spelldancer // Factotum => Fun to do all the things three or more times a turn.

Stoneblessed Dragonborn Mongrelfolk heading into First of the Forest, Deepwarden, and Dwarf Paragon => All the Con, all the AC. Not actually a good build, but amusing to me.

Sorcerer 20 // Battledancer 1/Paladin of Freedon 2/X 2/Eldrich Master 10/Prestige Bard 1/Y 4 => so many spell lists! So many spells! Early casting!

Druid 20 => now that I have read the encyclopedia eggynacia

Cerefel
2016-10-27, 02:00 AM
There's a Changeling Binder/Chameleon build I've been sitting on for ages, but I haven't been able to find a game at all.

Kelb_Panthera
2016-10-27, 02:38 AM
I've always wanted to do a mild super-mount.

Strongheart halfling paladin 5/ beastmaster 1/ halfling outrider 10/ X 4

I was thinking of a celestial ape for the actual companion/mount; exalted companion. Just strikes me as something that would be interesting to play but I never actually got around to it.

stanprollyright
2016-10-27, 02:59 AM
Most builds that work at high level but not at low level.

Bardzilla w/ ToB

Factotum/Duskblade/Chameleon

Ur Priest

lylsyly
2016-10-27, 07:55 AM
Factotum/Duskblade (into Swiftblade)

Ooh! Now that I see it, I can't wait till the next time my group plays a Gestalt game. Skill Monkey/Gish anyone?

supersonic29
2016-10-27, 11:44 AM
There's a Changeling Binder/Chameleon build I've been sitting on for ages, but I haven't been able to find a game at all.

Caused me to imagine someone opening a campaign with all the builds in this thread.


Karsite Sorcerer, for sure:

Karsite(ToM) Sorcerer 18

ACFs: Stalwart Sorcerer(CM), Battle Sorcerer(UA), Spell Shield(DgS), Dragonblood Sorcerer(RotD, lv4), Domain Access(CC), Dragonpacts (DM).

2 - LA, Medium Armor Proficiency, Martial Weapon proficiency, DR 5/Magic, SR 10+HD, Magic Drain(Sp, Cha-based), Spell Healing
3 - Stalwart, Battle Sorcerer, Spell Shield, Draconic Heritage, Draconic Breath
4 -
5 - Blue Dragon Lineage
6 - Dragonblood Sorcerer Sl-Ability(lv1, Nerveskitter), Dragonpact(lv2)
7 - Domain Access(CC)
8 - Obtain Familiar(CA), Sl-Ability(lv2, Wings of Cover), Dragonpact(lv3)
9 -
10- Sl-Ability(lv3, Wings of Cover), Dragonpact(lv4)
11- Improved Familiar(CW, Winter Wolf)
12- Sl-Ability(lv4, Celerity), Dragonpact(lv5)
13-
14- Arcane Strike, Sl-Ability(lv5, Arcane Fusion, CM), Dragonpact(lv6)
15-
16- Sl-Ability(lv6, Arcane Fusion), Dragonpact(lv7)
17- Spell-Linked Familiar
18- Sl-Ability(lv7, Arcane Fusion), Dragonpact(lv8)
19-
20- Martial Training(Shadow Stride)/Open, Sl-Ability(lv8, Greater Arcane Fusion), Dragonpact(lv9)

What's the shenanigan here? I assume one of these bits overcomes the Karsite's natural Spellcasting Inability, but I'm not catching it.

Edit: ToM also says "none are clerics, druids, sorcerers, or wizards" under Karsites as Characters. Most DMs would surely rule that this is for NPC worldbuilding and that your character is yours to control and does what (s)he wants, but I guess that would be RAW against you.


Forgot this other one. It's a pretty silly build, overall, but I guess it's still decent?


Race:Silverbrow Human

1 - Monk(Decisive Strike, Cobra Strike Dodge) - Unorthodox Flurry, Imp. Initiative
2 - Human Paragon(Concentration)
3 - Rogue(Poison Use) - Craven
4 - Swashbuckler
5 - Incarnate
6 - Binder - Praticed Binder
7 - Totemist
8 - Cloistered Cleric(Travel Devotion, Time)
9 - Swordsage - Adaptive Style
10- Wizard(Abrupt Jaunt)
11- Barbarian(CC Lion Totem, Favored Enemy)
12- Hit-and-Run Fighter - Superior Unarmed Strike, Shadow Blade
13- Crusader
14- Warblade
15- Master of Nine - Extra Granted Maneuver
16- Scout
17- Exemplar
18- Factotum - Bonus Essentia
19- Incandescent Blade
20- Spellthief

This made me giggle. Master of none at its finest.

radthemad4
2016-10-27, 12:04 PM
Changeling Wizard using the Morphic Familiar substitution level (let's you swap out a familiar for any other you could've had) and taking a bunch of better familiar feats, e.g. improved familiar, celestial familiar, darkness familiar, etc. for lots of options.

martixy
2016-10-27, 12:06 PM
A high-level psion/warblade/eternal blade.
A high-level factotum/swiftblade.

Int all da way, baby!

My catch phrase would be: "Now it's MY TURN."

Buufreak
2016-10-27, 12:07 PM
Demonmanİ
Teifling wizard/fiend binder. I wanted to make the best out of a horrible mechanic while also being able to have fun. The good news was he required less truespeak op than the base class, so it was a plus.

Kaje
2016-10-27, 12:14 PM
What's the shenanigan here? I assume one of these bits overcomes the Karsite's natural Spellcasting Inability, but I'm not catching it.
Some of those sacrifice spells known or spell slots for bab. Some sacrifice spells known or spell slots for use of spell-like abilities. Some allow your familiar to cast spells even though you can't. Some allow you to turn spell slots into extra melee damage. And etc.

CaPtMalHammer
2016-10-27, 12:25 PM
I have two I would love to try,

1: a paladin type character, maybe fighter as a base. the idea is building Don Quixote Del La Mancha in D and D. lol Not a Knight in any way but he thinks he is. maybe a delusion flaw where he sees windmills as dragons lol :P

2: This would require a group. get three or four people together and each take Phallanx fighting feat and recreate a Roman Legion in D and D:)

SolitonMan
2016-10-27, 02:03 PM
Gestalt warlock // binder. I've never played a binder but it seems like a good complementary class for a warlock.

Echch
2016-10-27, 02:33 PM
This would require a group. get three or four people together and each take Phallanx fighting feat and recreate a Roman Legion in D and D:)

This is somethig that's currently happening in my group... Party of 3 Barbarians with Phallanx Fighting... It's pretty awkward.

Professor Chimp
2016-10-27, 02:42 PM
Oh, so many race/class combinations I've always wanted to try, but never gotten around to:


Gnome Beguiler/Shadowcraft Mage
Any kind of Bard
Any kind of Warlock
Any kind of Druid

I could go on, really.

CaPtMalHammer
2016-10-27, 03:18 PM
This is somethig that's currently happening in my group... Party of 3 Barbarians with Phallanx Fighting... It's pretty awkward.

yeah I mean having to move together etc keep in close would make combat maneuvering awkward although a legion is patient and not flashy so maybe that's the point. would be interesting with a bunch of high level dwarven defenders who can move that 5 ft a turn:) slow but hard to hit.

BilltheCynic
2016-10-28, 02:35 AM
I happen to like rather weird characters, so I have a whole list of guys I'd love to play if I can find a DM crazy enough to accept them. Just five of them off the top of my head:

A fine sized character using this (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?109065-quot-Return-to-Nature-quot-The-World-s-Smallest-Giant-Warlocks-Rejoice) trick. I would prefer to be either martial-rogueish character (maybe throwing in some Blade Bravo for excellent size synergy), an artificer, or a warlock
A Jermlaine swordsage refluffed as an awakened rabbit. Yes, I want to play Bun Bun
A Gelatinous Cube, either using a homebrew monster class or the Awaken Ooze spell from Dragon #304
A dragon. A legitamate true dragon. And an bigger one too, not a little wyrmling; I want him to actually feel like a dragon.
A Medusa in an E6 game (per Savage Species Medusas have +4 LA, so it ends up working out just perfectly). And I want to play her as being the absolute sweetest, nicest person you will ever meet

Exocist
2016-10-28, 03:02 AM
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A Medusa in an E6 game (per Savage Species Medusas have +4 LA, so it ends up working out just perfectly). And I want to play her as being the absolute sweetest, nicest person you will ever meet


People will fall in love with her personality :smallwink:

Inevitability
2016-10-28, 03:12 AM
A Harmonious Knight. I know it's suboptimal, but sometimes I just want to combine paladinnish (paladine? paladinnic?) face-smashing with the inherent silliness of bards.

Cerefel
2016-10-28, 03:13 AM
2. A Jermlaine swordsage refluffed as an awakened rabbit. Yes, I want to play Bun Bun

Might I suggest Hengeyokai(Hare)? You can just stay in rabbit form forever.

Chronikoce
2016-10-28, 05:39 AM
This is mostly RP rather than mechanics so precise build doesn't matter.

Goblin (or some other small generally looked down upon race) sorcerer with low int and high charisma. The character is absolutely convinced they are a wizard and carries a "spellbook" around which is really just a self made picture book with awful stick figure drawings depicting the results of various spells. He still insists on spending time each morning studying his spell book to prepare his spells for the day.

MisterKaws
2016-10-28, 10:35 AM
What's the shenanigan here? I assume one of these bits overcomes the Karsite's natural Spellcasting Inability, but I'm not catching it.

Edit: ToM also says "none are clerics, druids, sorcerers, or wizards" under Karsites as Characters. Most DMs would surely rule that this is for NPC worldbuilding and that your character is yours to control and does what (s)he wants, but I guess that would be RAW against you.

Some of those sacrifice spells known or spell slots for bab. Some sacrifice spells known or spell slots for use of spell-like abilities. Some allow your familiar to cast spells even though you can't. Some allow you to turn spell slots into extra melee damage. And etc.

Actually, everything in the build trades the spells for something else, so you end up with Barbarian pseudo-HD(d8+2=6.5=d12), Cleric BAB, Barbarian proficiency, a really, REALLY tanky wolf familiar, a bunch of SLAs, that ridiculous lightning missile barrage, among other things. It's actually a good front-liner, even though the class-race matchup is the absolute worst.

Thurbane
2016-11-15, 09:55 PM
I finally got a chance to try a Hellbred Binder, but unfortunately the DM retired after the first module, so I only got to play until level 4.

Yvhv Weide
2016-11-15, 11:39 PM
I once had an idea for something i thought was kinda weird. Note that i am kinda oddly specific (i blame it on my very first dm who would always demand to know"what's the other half" of anything with "half" in the racial name,other than orc elf or human) with my racial designations and sometimes they get a little...awkward.

Race:Half Orc/Tiefling "Lycanthrope" (WereLeopard)

Class(es):Rogue, Bard(divine variant), Warlock, and Wilder, or some form of the four in a prestige class.

Equipment: Whip, Rapier, Hand Crossbow(s), Short Sword(s), Spiked Chain,Long Sword, Some sort of Spear or Polearm (made from an odd material to allow maximum durability and flexibility. ) (these are wants not needs, will gladly exchange for more "game appropriate weapons) Armor: pretty much anything that can be glamered or something to that effect that can be made from the flesh of yuan-ti.

Feats: Two weapon fighting, any heritor feat to improve her effectiveness, anything to supplement her lycanthropy.

Side notes: any suggestions on how to round this out and make it a little better would be welcome. This character is a devout follower of Bastet (see Deities and Demigods) and although a paladin or cleric would have made a little bit more sense in a large respect, ive always been curious about how a divine bard would play out, especially one that is rougeish, is a warlock (because of her demonic heritage, so the warlock thing isnt necessary but like i said im oddly apecific and i think that would make things interestingly chaotic when combined with the raw unfettered talent of a wilder.) who has uncontrollable psionic powers she inherited from one of her parents, along with her lycanthropy (she hates it but at the same time has found that it has won her favor with her goddess, who is a cat goddess and lover of all cats and cat creatures). She wants to do nothing more but serve her goddess and survive, even if it means resorting to rogueish acts of violence. She falls in line with Bastet's Alignment of Cg, but sometimes her wild lycanthrope instincts, demonic nature, and uncontrollable psionic powers makes this alignment a bit hard to hold onto. She chose to be a divine bard of Bastet to escape her "home" and her semi alcholic cousin that she has/had been forced to live with since her father's death in a raid (mother and child had.fled) by full blooded orcs who hate half breeds, and her mother's drunken and grief fueled suicide via throwing herself from a cliff face, at the tender age of 7.

The divine bard choice allows her to wander aimlessly (until directed by her deity to do otherwise) and spread the legend and story of her deity in lands that know not of her divine kittyness. She tries to avoid large population centers but, when you are traveling from a desert (or desert fringe) locale and hunting fishing and gathering sources are scarce, a girl has to do what a girl has to do.

As far as the whole Yuan ti flesh armor thing, she shares her deitiy's distaste for snakes, and she wears the yuan ti skins as a show of power to other "snakey bastards" and as a show of dedication and respect to her goddess, a symbol of her dedication to her goddess and her slaying (daily slaying that is) of the evil snake god Apep. She feels that wearing these Yuan ti skins and slaying the yuan ti brings her closer to her goddess, and also sows just the right amount of fear in her enemies to make them see that she is not to be trifled with. Plus, she thinks they look "spiffy".


Backstory and everything aside, i think that's it. I realize there will probably be an alignment conflict within my statements here but i digress, i am willing to modify.

Jack_McSnatch
2016-11-15, 11:45 PM
I have wanted to rebuild my first character for the longest time, now that I know of a lot of different feats and acfs. My first character was Jacob Firesong, twf human fighter who took a whole bunch of uneccesary crap like Acrobatic, toughness, and improved shield bash, for what must have seemed like a good reason at the time.

I think in the rebuild he'd be a single sword swordsman with a whole bunch of tactical feats. Combat Brute, combat cloak, elusive target, einhander, and shock trooper, specifically. It wouldn't be at all optimized, but I would have fun setting up the battlefield to my preference. Ideally, I'd do it with the UA generic warrior, and pick a better skill list, but assuming that I can't, he might do a 3 level dip in swashbuckler, but otherwise he'd be all fighter.

Starbuck_II
2016-11-16, 12:11 AM
In Pathinder: My Svirfneblin gnome This was back when Totem Rager allowed multiple Totems before the FAQ/Errata/NERF.
http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=532770

The Platypus, Vigilante, takes after the platypus.
http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=901843
Sadly never picked.

3.5:
I always wanted to try out a Domovoi. I was thinking a Lurk/Warblade
At Will Pyrotechnics is so cool because it is an awesome spell.
http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=532137

Hexblade/Spellthief, never allowed:
http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=533649

A Lycanthrope (Murder of Crows). Someone on the boards showed how possible. Requires 6th level: (4RHD, 2 LA) but looks so cool

1/2 Orc Bear Warrior
http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=533394

rrwoods
2016-11-16, 12:26 AM
I always gravitate towards martials; this one is no exception:

Warblade 1/Duskblade 1/Fighter 1/Warblade +1/Fighter +1/Dervish 2/Blade Dancer 3/Dervish +8/Blade Dancer +3

I might have the order of the levels off there, can't quite remember right now. But the idea was basically a wuxia-type character, able to attack anything from anywhere, super mobile, slightly magical, etc. The first five levels are basically the best way I could find to squeeze in all the Dervish and Blade Dancer prerequisites (and TWF!) as fast as possible. (You can also do ranger/fighter but having maneuvers for the first 5 levels seems better.)

D&DPrinceTandem
2016-11-16, 01:24 AM
well i have never played these, i would like to play them. here is 10


10) My Knight Solaire build: Human (radiant) Cleric of Pelor(re-fluff with lightning based domain)/Knight 10, Storm-lord(Pelor instead)/Justicuir10
9) My Ornstien Build: Paladin/Knight10, Storm-lord/Dragon Hunter10
8) My Smough Build: Goliath (half-Minotaur, /half-ogre, mineral warrior)(huge base size after powerful build colassal) Barbarian/Fighter 7, Warhulk/Cancer Mage10, Hulking Hurler/Uncanny Trickster3 (same as 2)
7) My Fluffy Bunny Build: dread necromancer/Psi Warrioir9, tainted scholar/dread witch10
6) My paladin build: Lesser aasimar (radiant creature) Paladin/Archivist20
5) I want to finish my Prince Tandem lionheart build: lesser teifling(Chosen of Amodues) archivist/fallen paladin10, Corrupt Avenger/justiciur10 (same as 2)
4) My Flaming queen build: Lesser teifling (alu-demon) Warlock/swordsage 10, hellfire warlock/Mortal hunter10
(same as 2)
3) My natsu dragneel build: lesser aasimar (Alu-demon) Warlock/Dragonfire adept20
2) My necromancer prestige gestalt: (death knight)(spell-stiched) snow elf Battle Dancer/Dread necromancer10, blackgaurd/Dread Necromancer10 (kinda playing this character as an NPC but i want to play her as a player)
1) my healer: Lesser aasimar (radiant)Cleric9/radiant sevant of pelor10/apsolte of peace1

But alas I am horrible when it comes to playing the Good alignment.

Hikarizu
2016-11-16, 08:33 AM
Several of the things I always wanted to try:
Awakened Cat Psion with Leadership having a Wizard cohort pretending to be the actual party member.
Awakened Duck Psion Telepath (because of a wordplay in my native language "Радка патката телепатка" Radka(name) rhymes with the word for duck and the word for female telepath ends with the word for duck).
Changeling Factotum/Chameleon to be able to change specialty day to day.
Factotum/IaijutsuMaster to end someone before he even knows what hit him
Paladin/Crusader/RKV enough said (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzir1B43I3E)
a Fusion (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/powers/fusion.htm) of Tashalatora PsyWar with several levels of Elocator with a pure Psion. (http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Gogeta)

Martimus Prime
2016-11-16, 11:37 AM
I find the idea of playing a choker amusing. Either Stat him as a martial adept or, for maximum entertainment value, as a lion totem barbarian/primeval

D&DPrinceTandem
2016-11-16, 04:38 PM
Awakened Cat Psion with Leadership having a Wizard cohort pretending to be the actual party member.
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So I'm not alone lol, i built a character like this but i was a imp and my "master" was a dread necromancer, when it reached 8 and got a second imp familiar the party flipped out and i had to explain, So fun.

rrwoods
2016-11-16, 05:18 PM
Awakened Cat Psion with Leadership having a Wizard cohort pretending to be the actual party member.
... I've never played or run a game where leadership was allowed, but I'd sure as hell make an exception for this.

daremetoidareyo
2016-11-16, 11:10 PM
Any build I submitted to iron chef or the villainous competition.

The two that I liked the most are here.

Scruffy the Fuglimancer (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=19553550&postcount=248)

Pseudo-efreeti (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=20453140&postcount=177)

unseenmage
2016-11-16, 11:15 PM
There are two, each as ridiculous as the other.

An oversized gauntlet wielding Goblin who can hold the way as well as he can take on larger foes.

And a sickly wizard elf who is a were-Iron Golem. Just because, that's why.

supersonic29
2016-11-17, 05:04 PM
Awakened Cat Psion with Leadership having a Wizard cohort pretending to be the actual party member.


That sounds excellent, though I wonder why one is a psion and the other a wizard.

I'd really like to play a dvati centered around exploits involving effects projected in radius and flanking. Island/thicket of blades, auras (depending on the text of them - perhaps dragon shaman?), IIRC self targets double target them - so Haste would be hilarious, doubling the benefit of a racial template like maybe dragonborn, that one feat that benefits you if you find another person with it, cooperative rituals, cooperative skill checks, singing two bardic songs, polymorph self (or maybe wildshape?), I could go on.

I can't believe this race made the cut of Dragon Compendium with +1 LA.

Thurbane
2016-11-17, 07:11 PM
That sounds excellent, though I wonder why one is a psion and the other a wizard.

You could always have a Tibbit or Henegyokai Wizard who uses Leadership to nab a human "familiar". :smalltongue:

Kaje
2016-11-18, 07:42 AM
That sounds excellent, though I wonder why one is a psion and the other a wizard

One is a psion because wizards can't generally cast spells with paws. The other is a fake wizard because psions don't have kitty familiars.


I recently made a soulbow/kensai with wis to ac, saves, attack twice and damage twice. I like this guy.

Rijan_Sai
2016-11-18, 01:43 PM
Warlock Tibbit Laser Cat (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&sqi=2&ved=0ahUKEwiRw43B77LQAhVB5WMKHVe5BmMQyCkIHDAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nbc.com%2Fsaturday-night-live%2Fvideo%2Fsnl-digital-short-laser-cats%2Fn12030&usg=AFQjCNEnxKSWTF40YcB_gEGnTCW1P0eHjA&bvm=bv.139250283,d.cGc) (add Hellfire Warlock 3/Binder 1 for more "pew-pew" goodness!)
Or really anything Tibbit...

A gestalt NE Incarnate 7/Necrocarnate 13//Commoner 1/(??? 19; not sure what the best complimentary build might be...) with the Chicken Infested flaw.
While the Wizard spends an hour each morning preparing his spells, you spend [however long it takes to get enough chickens] each night to recharge your essential. Then in the morning, you can decide what souls to torment "equipment" to use for the day!

lylsyly
2016-11-19, 03:08 PM
I finally got my nose into Savage Species. The next time we run Gestalt I am gonna have a little fun.

Astral Deva (SS p.155) on one side, Dragonfire Adept on the other. Don't even need any prestige classes.

Course, the DM may never talk to me again ;)

Grod_The_Giant
2016-11-19, 06:19 PM
A while back I worked out a fun build for a rather dapper gentleman who was really, freakishly good at throwing knives, and somehow always had another blade up his sleeve. This expanding, over time, into a minor psionic talent for conjuration, then into full-on manifesting: Human Ranger* 2/Soulknife** 3/Soulbow 4/Shiba Protector 1/Slayer 1/Ardent 2/Slayer +8. You wound up with +16 BAB and 7th level powers, with the manifesting kicking off strong (straight to 3rd level powers, thanks to Ardent+Practiced Manifester) right around the time when mundane combatants start to be thoroughly left behind.

*Arcane Hunter, Voice of the City, Skilled City Dweller ACFs; TWF fighting style
**Hidden Talent and Bonus Feat ACFs

supersonic29
2016-11-21, 09:52 AM
One is a psion because wizards can't generally cast spells with paws. The other is a fake wizard because psions don't have kitty familiars.

I suppose that follows, though you could always suggest that having a pet cat is a unique aspect of this psion cohort. That may arouse suspicion, but personally I would identify that what the wizard is doing is clearly psionics before I'd worry about a cat in the hands of a psion while he does his thing.

I guess you could also keep the wizard and have the cat be an stp erudite who just uses mostly wizard spell list stuff, going as far as to emphasize using some staple spells such as magic missile or scorching ray to really keep anyone from considering something amiss.

Jon_Dahl
2016-11-21, 10:47 AM
Commoner 20, duh.
If only to see how long I could survive with naught but magic items.

Whenever we play a high level game, I always have something that fits better thematically, or plays better, or... annoys the party less.

Yes, I'd have the same, please!

Hikarizu
2016-11-24, 05:22 AM
I suppose that follows, though you could always suggest that having a pet cat is a unique aspect of this psion cohort. That may arouse suspicion, but personally I would identify that what the wizard is doing is clearly psionics before I'd worry about a cat in the hands of a psion while he does his thing.

I guess you could also keep the wizard and have the cat be an stp erudite who just uses mostly wizard spell list stuff, going as far as to emphasize using some staple spells such as magic missile or scorching ray to really keep anyone from considering something amiss.
Kaje answered for me why one is a Psion and the other Wizard. The idea is to do it in a new to DnD group, or with a group with neither Knowledge:Arcane nor Knowledge:Psionics and see how long it takes them to catch on. Or have that Changeling Factotum/Chameleon as DMPC be half the NPCs the party meet just to mess with them.

LordOfCain
2016-11-24, 08:10 AM
Now I really want to play a Commoner 20... thanks a lot...

Krazzman
2016-11-24, 09:59 AM
A claw lock for a gestalt game. Something vampiric for race and warlock plus swords age or general initiating.

The Bard into Dragon Disciple I had planned got ditched for the newly released Magus.

Trying another Magus... since the game I gave up the bard for was rather short lived.