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RedScholarGypsy
2007-07-13, 09:39 PM
Inspired by webtron's thread, what does everyone think?

Human?
Elf?
Giant? http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0139.html http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0212.html

I can't see him giving up an innate ability that helps kill things, so he has to have some, and probably thought out too.

Thexare Blademoon
2007-07-13, 09:41 PM
Favored Enemy: NPCs
Favored Enemy: Kobolds
Favored Enemy: PCs

Note that Kobolds stacks with the other two.

That's how I see it, anyway.

Lord_Butters_I
2007-07-13, 09:45 PM
Things that can die. Or re-die in the case of undead.

Hushdawg
2007-07-13, 09:56 PM
1. Humans
2. Kobolds
3. Paladins

Sage in the Playground
2007-07-13, 10:03 PM
All that fears.

Kanthalion
2007-07-13, 10:12 PM
this ones's easy:
Humans, elves, half-elves, dwarves and half-orcs.

TigerHunter
2007-07-13, 10:17 PM
Favored Enemy: Humanoid (anything capable of screaming for mercy)

Surfing HalfOrc
2007-07-13, 10:33 PM
Sentients able to beg for mercy. :smallbiggrin:

Nomadic
2007-07-13, 11:25 PM
I always figured he took favored enemy: anything that isn't me

Gefangnis
2007-07-14, 12:22 AM
It's possible he forgot.

"When did I learn evasion?"

Chronos
2007-07-14, 01:06 AM
Belkar would like to take "everyone" and "everyone else" as his favored enemies, but there's no way he'd get away with that. Personally, my guess is Humanoid (reptilian) +4, Giants (+4), Humanoid (goblinoid) (+2). RedScholarGypsy already made the case for Giants. For reptilians, I note that within five minutes after meeting him, the Oracle made it onto his top five list of people to kill. And as for goblinoids, he's willing to risk triggering his Mark to strangle them with their own intestines (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0469.html).

And we know for certain that he didn't take Undead as a favored enemy, because he complains several times about how they're no fun to kill.

Yehomer
2007-07-14, 01:41 AM
And as for goblinoids, he's willing to risk triggering his Mark to strangle them with their own intestines (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0469.html).


Yeah, but that was because they were threatening them with death, not because he has any special hatred for them...

Draz74
2007-07-14, 04:51 PM
Yeah, I've always figured his FE's were three out of the following four:

Humanoid (Human)
Humanoid (Reptilian)
Humanoid (Goblinoid)
Humanoid (Halfling)

... not that we've seen much evidence in the strip for that last one, only the strip where he's vowing to go back to the village he grew up in and take his revenge on everyone. But having his own race as a Favored Enemy just seems in-character.

RelentlessImp
2007-07-14, 06:02 PM
1. Halfling (+6)
2. Humanoid (+4)
3. Undead (+2) (Reasonably taken after popping off the EoFaF's head as a retraining feat. "There's undead that get scared! I gotta try this!")

Just my view on it :P

Skyserpent
2007-07-14, 06:03 PM
Humanoid Kidneys.

Bogardan_Mage
2007-07-15, 06:30 AM
As I said the last time, the obvious one is Humanoid (Reptilian). Giants are probably also up there. And, I guess, the last one could be Humanoid (Human), despite my comments on the previous thread about it being something any good ranger would take, and therefore something Belkar would not.

Emperor Ing
2007-07-15, 06:37 AM
anything capable of screaming REALLY REALLY loud...unfortunately... (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0450.html)

ChopSticks28
2007-07-15, 10:06 AM
Anything that has kidneys.
Oh my, someone already said that. Now I have to fill my post somehow. But with what...?

SurlySeraph
2007-07-16, 06:12 PM
1. Things he knows how to cook.
2. Things he does not know how to cook.

On a more serious note, I'd say exactly what Draz74 said, except with Halfling taken first, then Reptilian.


Yeah, I've always figured his FE's were three out of the following four:

Humanoid (Human)
Humanoid (Reptilian)
Humanoid (Goblinoid)
Humanoid (Halfling)

... not that we've seen much evidence in the strip for that last one, only the strip where he's vowing to go back to the village he grew up in and take his revenge on everyone. But having his own race as a Favored Enemy just seems in-character.

ZeroNumerous
2007-07-16, 07:43 PM
Remember people.. V has Gender: Lawful Neutral and Alignment: Male. Belkar just happens to have Favored Enemy: All living beings.

Nomadic
2007-07-17, 12:38 AM
I wonder what would happen if belkar took favored enemy: Burlews

Nathander
2007-07-17, 01:16 AM
Yeah, I've always figured his FE's were three out of the following four:

Humanoid (Human)
Humanoid (Reptilian)
Humanoid (Goblinoid)
Humanoid (Halfling)

... not that we've seen much evidence in the strip for that last one, only the strip where he's vowing to go back to the village he grew up in and take his revenge on everyone. But having his own race as a Favored Enemy just seems in-character.

That's pretty much the way I see it: Human, Goblinoid, and Halfling, especially after how he swears to go back and kill everyone in his home village. Though, of course, this may have just been BS, considering he said it simply to gain the experience he needed for roleplaying to advance a level.

But we already know of his hatred for humans, so they're almost certainly there. So, the two givens, at least the way I feel them to be, are humans and halflings. The other one is most likely goblinoid.

Chronos
2007-07-17, 11:15 AM
But we already know of his hatred for humans, so they're almost certainly there.I dunno; he only seems to me to hate humans in the same way he hates everyone else. Sure, there are more humans he hates, but that's just because there's more humans in the world, period. On the other hand, all of the people he likes (or something resembling that) are humans, too: Elan makes him laugh, he lusts after Haley (and Hermione Granger and Mrs. Butterworth), and he respected Shojo for making paladins clean the litterbox. Kobolds, on the other hand, clearly hold a special place of hatred in his heart.

And halflings seems like it'd be in character, but the only evidence we have is his "kill them in their sleep" speech, which is almost certainly BS.

Dusk_Rider
2007-07-17, 11:48 AM
Where's everyone getting the idea that Humanoid (Halfling) is one? My guess is:

Humanoid (Reptilian) +6
Humanoid (Human) +4
Humanoid (Goblinoid) +2

moscatabaco
2007-07-17, 12:52 PM
While Mr. bitterleaf hates pretty much everything and everybody, I daresay his hatred isn't as indiscriminate as some people claim. He pailly said that he usually doesn't bother with the undead. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0450.html)

Kobolds on the other hand have earned his instant enmity just for being (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0044.html) there. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0329.html)

Firestar27
2007-07-17, 04:19 PM
Where's everyone getting the idea that Humanoid (Halfling) is one? My guess is:

Humanoid (Reptilian) +6
Humanoid (Human) +4
Humanoid (Goblinoid) +2

With all of those bonuses, he would need to be a level 30 Ranger. He would probably have:
Humanoid (Reptilian) +2
Humanoid (human) +2
Humanoid (Goblinoid) +2
Maybe you can remove the goblonoid +2 and make the reptilian OR human (but not both) become +4.

Chronos
2007-07-17, 05:20 PM
At every level where a ranger (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/classes/ranger.htm#favoredEnemy) gains a favored enemy, he gains one new enemy, and also increases the bonus against any single enemy. So Belkar, as a ranger between 10th and 15th level, has a total of three favored enemies, and his bonuses against them are either +6, +2, +2, or +4, +4, +2.

fangthane
2007-07-17, 05:42 PM
If I had to guess, I'd say he's got Halflings, Humans and possibly reptilians as favoured enemies.

I'd rather think he had Humanoid (Male) and Humanoid (Female) and had to take Humanoid (Other) for V though ;)

DSCrankshaw
2007-07-17, 05:44 PM
It's possible he forgot.

"When did I learn evasion?"
See, I read that as Belkar just having gained the evasion special ability, meaning that he only has nine levels of ranger (the rest being barbarian, presumably). That means that he only has two favored enemies, and one of them's most likely human (http://sequentialtart.com/article.php?id=467).

Querzis
2007-07-17, 05:58 PM
I'm getting tired of everyone saying humans. Everyone he love, like or lust are humans! He left his halfling village to live among humans and the one he hate the most in the OOTS is the elf! If Belkar kill lots of humans, its just because there is more humans around him then anything else but humans is the only living race he doesnt automatically try to kill! With humans, he talk before killing and, if he think they could be usefull to him (or if its a hot chick) he will let them live but he automatically kill everythings else (except undead since they are no fun to kill). Humans cant be his favorite enemy.

He hate kobold with passion so it seems obvious to me that Humanoids (reptilian) is one of his favorite enemy. The two others, we can only guess, but I think its Humanoids (halfling) (since he want to slaugther everyone in his village and live with humans) and Humanoid (goblinoids).

RedScholarGypsy
2007-07-17, 06:56 PM
I think it depends on which types there are the most of in the oots's world. If it's humans the most, than humans; if gobliniods, then them. Belkar is all about the quantity I think.

DSCrankshaw
2007-07-17, 11:22 PM
I'm getting tired of everyone saying humans. Everyone he love, like or lust are humans! He left his halfling village to live among humans and the one he hate the most in the OOTS is the elf! If Belkar kill lots of humans, its just because there is more humans around him then anything else but humans is the only living race he doesnt automatically try to kill! With humans, he talk before killing and, if he think they could be usefull to him (or if its a hot chick) he will let them live but he automatically kill everythings else (except undead since they are no fun to kill). Humans cant be his favorite enemy.
To quote Rich Burlew in the interview (http://sequentialtart.com/article.php?id=467) I linked to above:

The closest I've come to running any of the OOTS characters as PCs was that I once briefly played (for like 3 sessions) a halfling ranger with a badass attitude that selected humans as his Favored Enemy, but unlike Belkar, this character didn't have a sense of humor at all.
So yes, human looks pretty likely. Anyway, favored enemy isn't about whom you hate the most. Yes, you get extra damage against favored enemies, but you also get bonuses to social and scouting skills relating to them. (That's one reason undead, otherwise an excellent option for favored enemy, isn't even more popular: that bonus to bluff and sense motive doesn't do much good against them.) You should select favored enemy for the opponent you'll deal with most often, even if it's in social settings as opposed to hunting them down.