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BloodSnake'sCha
2016-12-22, 04:02 AM
is there any rules for attacking something like a leg, eye, nose or belt, sword and stuff like this?

I will like to know books and pages if you have this information.

Jormengand
2016-12-22, 04:11 AM
Sunder (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/combat/specialAttacks.htm#sunder) and Called Shot (PF optional rule - there is no called shot rule for 3.5 except in the third-party supplement Torn Asunder by Bastion Press) (http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/ultimateCombat/variants/calledShots.html).

BloodSnake'sCha
2016-12-22, 04:21 AM
Sunder (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/combat/specialAttacks.htm#sunder) and Called Shot (PF optional rule - there is no called shot rule for 3.5 except in the third-party supplement Torn Asunder by Bastion Press) (http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/ultimateCombat/variants/calledShots.html).

is it only melee?
isn't there anyway to make it a range attack?

NevinPL
2016-12-22, 04:49 AM
IIRC, the famous "Grimm-n-Gritty", had options about targeting body parts.
Among other (sweet) things.

BloodSnake'sCha
2016-12-22, 05:25 AM
IIRC, the famous "Grimm-n-Gritty", had options about targeting body parts.
Among other (sweet) things.

what is "Grimm-n-Gritty" and where can I find it?

Grod_The_Giant
2016-12-22, 11:17 AM
Sunder (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/combat/specialAttacks.htm#sunder) and Called Shot (PF optional rule - there is no called shot rule for 3.5 except in the third-party supplement Torn Asunder by Bastion Press) (http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/ultimateCombat/variants/calledShots.html).
Well, sort of. Page 27 in the DMG has rules for "Damage to specific areas," but it's just a list of penalties for being hit in said areas, with no rules for specifically targeting them.

ShurikVch
2016-12-22, 12:11 PM
Depending on which sources are allowed, and what's you want to do with it, there are, actually, fare number of stuff:

Ambush feats: by reducing damage dice of your precision damage, you may attack some specific area of enemy's bodies - head, ears, throat, limbs, or even disembowel them; sources: Complete Scoundrel, Dragon magazine #344 pg. 103

Snatch Trophy feat (Champions of Ruin): allow to cut off bits of downed enemies

Called shot (http://nwn.wikia.com/wiki/Called_shot) feat (from Neverwinter Nights videogame)

Petrified creatures (as with Flesh to Stone (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/fleshToStone.htm)) may be targeted freely, because doesn't resist

Vorpal (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/magicWeapons.htm#vorpal) attacks have chance to decapitate enemy

You can sunder off heads of Hydra (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/hydra.htm), and tentacles of Giant Octopus (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/octopusGiant.htm), Giant Squid (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/squidGiant.htm), or Kraken (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/kraken.htm)

Ocularon (Fiend Folio) able to steal eyes
Rotripper (Dragon Magazine Annual 5, pg. 37): able to rip arms off with it's Rend attack
Swarm, Murder of Crows (Tome of Magic) able to peck out eyes

Spells:
Clutch of Orcus (Clr 3) - heart (Book of Vile Darkness, pg. 88)
Grim Revenge (Undead Sor/Wiz 4) - arm (Book of Vile Darkness, pg. 97)
Heartclutch (Clr 5) - heart (Book of Vile Darkness, pg. 97)
Heartfreeze (Sor/Wiz 6) - heart (Frostburn, pg. 97)
Gutwrench (Undead Sor/Wiz 8) - guts (Book of Vile Darkness, pg. 97)
Seething Eyebane (Corrupt 1) - eyes (Book of Vile Darkness, pg. 103)
Slash Tongue (Clr 0, Sor/Wiz 0) - tongue (Book of Vile Darkness, pg. 103)

Powers:
Decerebrate (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/powers/decerebrate.htm) (Psion/Wilder 7) - brain (Expanded Psionics Handbook, pg. 90)
Intellect Bomb (Destruction 9) - head (Complete Psionic, pg. 91)

John Longarrow
2016-12-22, 12:16 PM
is there any rules for attacking something like a leg, eye, nose or belt, sword and stuff like this?

I will like to know books and pages if you have this information.

Sunder against equipment is the one most often that pops up. As a player, asking for rules to target specific body parts tends to be a bad idea. If you can do it, so can the monsters. Doesn't matter much if you cut off the hand of a monster but its horrible if the monster can do it to you.

NevinPL
2016-12-22, 02:46 PM
what is "Grimm-n-Gritty" and where can I find it?
You could start with the search engine of your choice (Google, Bing, etc.).

BloodSnake'sCha
2016-12-23, 07:29 PM
Well, sort of. Page 27 in the DMG has rules for "Damage to specific areas," but it's just a list of penalties for being hit in said areas, with no rules for specifically targeting them.
didn't know, tnx

Depending on which sources are allowed, and what's you want to do with it, there are, actually, fare number of stuff:

Ambush feats: by reducing damage dice of your precision damage, you may attack some specific area of enemy's bodies - head, ears, throat, limbs, or even disembowel them; sources: Complete Scoundrel, Dragon magazine #344 pg. 103

Snatch Trophy feat (Champions of Ruin): allow to cut off bits of downed enemies

Called shot (http://nwn.wikia.com/wiki/Called_shot) feat (from Neverwinter Nights videogame)

Petrified creatures (as with Flesh to Stone (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/fleshToStone.htm)) may be targeted freely, because doesn't resist

Vorpal (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/magicWeapons.htm#vorpal) attacks have chance to decapitate enemy

You can sunder off heads of Hydra (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/hydra.htm), and tentacles of Giant Octopus (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/octopusGiant.htm), Giant Squid (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/squidGiant.htm), or Kraken (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/kraken.htm)

Ocularon (Fiend Folio) able to steal eyes
Rotripper (Dragon Magazine Annual 5, pg. 37): able to rip arms off with it's Rend attack
Swarm, Murder of Crows (Tome of Magic) able to peck out eyes

Spells:
Clutch of Orcus (Clr 3) - heart (Book of Vile Darkness, pg. 88)
Grim Revenge (Undead Sor/Wiz 4) - arm (Book of Vile Darkness, pg. 97)
Heartclutch (Clr 5) - heart (Book of Vile Darkness, pg. 97)
Heartfreeze (Sor/Wiz 6) - heart (Frostburn, pg. 97)
Gutwrench (Undead Sor/Wiz 8) - guts (Book of Vile Darkness, pg. 97)
Seething Eyebane (Corrupt 1) - eyes (Book of Vile Darkness, pg. 103)
Slash Tongue (Clr 0, Sor/Wiz 0) - tongue (Book of Vile Darkness, pg. 103)

Powers:
Decerebrate (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/powers/decerebrate.htm) (Psion/Wilder 7) - brain (Expanded Psionics Handbook, pg. 90)
Intellect Bomb (Destruction 9) - head (Complete Psionic, pg. 91)
I can use all3.5e books

Sunder against equipment is the one most often that pops up. As a player, asking for rules to target specific body parts tends to be a bad idea. If you can do it, so can the monsters. Doesn't matter much if you cut off the hand of a monster but its horrible if the monster can do it to you.
I always out omf range and I want it for RP more than combat

You could start with the search engine of your choice (Google, Bing, etc.).
will do

Technetium43
2016-12-23, 07:31 PM
diI always out omf range and I want it for RP more than combat

Ranged Sunder from Complete Warrior. However, if it's for RP, you can always just like, ask your DM to let you do a Cool Thing. Don't necessarily need to delve into splatbooks for it.

BloodSnake'sCha
2016-12-23, 07:38 PM
Ranged Sunder from Complete Warrior. However, if it's for RP, you can always just like, ask your DM to let you do a Cool Thing. Don't necessarily need to delve into splatbooks for it.
I know I can try but I know my DM.
I can do cool things only if I can do them.

Eladrinblade
2016-12-23, 08:41 PM
Remember folks, sundered items can be repaired at 1/5 their normal cost!

Anyway, a houserule I just made up for a friend I was DMing for: take a -4 penalty on your attack to target someone's leg, if you hit, they must make a fort save DC 10 + damage dealt or have their speed halved and be unable to charge or run, and take an additional -4 to any feet related skill checks

Shooting people in the leg to slow them down is such a staple in pretty much any genre, not just fantasy, and the fact you can't do it in D&D bugs me, so I made it a thing anybody can do.

Grod_The_Giant
2016-12-23, 10:17 PM
I know I can try but I know my DM.
I can do cool things only if I can do them.
Wait. Am I understanding this correctly? If you have a guy defeated or tied up or you're striking a finishing blow or something, and you say "I cut off his hand," your DM won't let you do it unless you can cite a "called shot" rule?

John Longarrow
2016-12-23, 10:32 PM
I know I can try but I know my DM.
I can do cool things only if I can do them.

It sounds like your looking for an alternate critical hit system. In D&D, your character is ALWAYS assumed to be targeting a weak point or vulnerable spot. Much like real combat your normally try to hit some place that isn't protected (read lop off a hand, take out an eye, ect...). Critical hits reflect the extra damage these kinds of hits do.

Alternate critical hit tables allow you to put an eye out and the such. Most players tend to HATE them since they effect the PCs the same as the monsters. As I'd put up before, lopping off a monsters hand doesn't really have much impact on the game. Monster probably drops the next round anyhow. This kind of hit on a PC can be really hard to deal with from the players perspective though. It takes the current adventure and changes it to be "How do we fix Timmy's missing eye".

Sunder is a different deal and is used to break the enemies stuff. That is already in the game. Check out the sunder rules.

Calthropstu
2016-12-23, 10:53 PM
Sunder against equipment is the one most often that pops up. As a player, asking for rules to target specific body parts tends to be a bad idea. If you can do it, so can the monsters. Doesn't matter much if you cut off the hand of a monster but its horrible if the monster can do it to you.

This brought me a flashback of 2nd edition, critical hit tables combined with called shot rules.

Those were nasty... my gm at the time was using them all the time. I lost count how many characters I went through in that campaign.

BloodSnake'sCha
2016-12-24, 09:51 AM
Wait. Am I understanding this correctly? If you have a guy defeated or tied up or you're striking a finishing blow or something, and you say "I cut off his hand," your DM won't let you do it unless you can cite a "called shot" rule?
No, I can fo everything to helpless guys(and did it), they are helpless.
I want to give the guys that annoy me and my party will not let me tie them.

It sounds like your looking for an alternate critical hit system. In D&D, your character is ALWAYS assumed to be targeting a weak point or vulnerable spot. Much like real combat your normally try to hit some place that isn't protected (read lop off a hand, take out an eye, ect...). Critical hits reflect the extra damage these kinds of hits do.

Alternate critical hit tables allow you to put an eye out and the such. Most players tend to HATE them since they effect the PCs the same as the monsters. As I'd put up before, lopping off a monsters hand doesn't really have much impact on the game. Monster probably drops the next round anyhow. This kind of hit on a PC can be really hard to deal with from the players perspective though. It takes the current adventure and changes it to be "How do we fix Timmy's missing eye".

Sunder is a different deal and is used to break the enemies stuff. That is already in the game. Check out the sunder rules.
there was 1 enemy that was able to live more then 2 rounds and he was 5 lv higher than us(that fight was a part of the plot).

I don't have any reason to use it in combat but sometimes one merchant want to lose his tongue, ears and eyes and your party don't want to help you tie him up.

John Longarrow
2016-12-24, 12:01 PM
I don't have any reason to use it in combat but sometimes one merchant want to lose his tongue, ears and eyes and your party don't want to help you tie him up.

So your looking for rules that let you cut off body parts on helpless victims? There are none since this is and should be dealt with by the DM. If your trying to force your DM to play a game where you get to cut up people for what ever reason, and the DM isn't cool with it, DM can boot you from their game.

BloodSnake'sCha
2016-12-24, 06:30 PM
So your looking for rules that let you cut off body parts on helpless victims? There are none since this is and should be dealt with by the DM. If your trying to force your DM to play a game where you get to cut up people for what ever reason, and the DM isn't cool with it, DM can boot you from their game.

no, I am looking for rules to damage body parts of unhelpless victims, because sometimes killing them is to much and doing non-lethal damage isn't enough.

If he will not want me to do it I will not do it. I am not a monster, I am just a man that play with some friends that need some rules support if he want to do something because that is how we play. But I am new and I can't read all the books like all the others guys I am playing with so I ask for help.

Bohandas
2016-12-24, 09:19 PM
Rules for hitting body parts can be easily extrapolated from the rules for sundering worn objects (just treat the body part as an object of the appropriate size and add the appropriate additional AC bonus for armors covering that part of the body and protective spells on the creature).

IIRC there's a sidebar in the DMG that covers what penalties might be expected on a character who has lost a hand or an eye.

More difficult is the matter of the body part's HP and how they relate to the creature's overall HP.