need stats for huge sized rat

[flamewolf393]

Its specifically a rat that (due to magic) never stopped growing and is now the small end of huge sized. I dont just want to use the giant template cause it doesnt give extra hit dice. What should the basic stats for this thing be? HD, CR, etc

[OldTrees1]

Medium Dire Rat: 4-6HD, Str 14, Dex 15, Con 14, Int 1, Wis 12, Cha 4, +1 Nat AC, Bite 1d6, -1 Size penalty to AC/Atk
Size increases Medium -> Huge +16 Str, -4 Dex, +8 Con, +5 NatAC, -2 Size penalty to AC/Atk
Huge Rat: ??? HD, Str 30, Dex 11, Con 22, Int 1, Wis, 12, Cha 4, +6 Nat AC, -3 Size penalty to AC/Atk

Small Dire Rat 1-3HD
Medium Dire Rat 4-6HD
Large Dire Rat 7-9HD?
Huge Dire Rat 10-12HD?

Huge Rat: 12HD, Str 26, Dex 13, Con 20, Int 1, Wis, 12, Cha 4, +6 Nat AC, -2 Size penalty to AC/Atk, Bite 2d6, CR 8?-13?

[InvisibleBison]

Here you go!

Huge Rat
Tiny Animal
Hit Dice: 4d8+40 (58 hp)
Initiative: +3
Speed: 15 feet, climb 15 feet, swim 15 feet
Armor Class: 12 (-2 size, -1 Dex, +5 natural), touch 7, flat-footed 12
Base Attack/Grapple: +3/+23
Attack: Bite +11 melee (1d6+18)
Full Attack: Bite +11 melee (1d6+18)
Space/Reach: 15 ft../10 ft.
Special Attacks: –
Special Qualities: Low-light vision, scent
Saves: Fort +9, Ref +3, Will +2
Abilities: Str 34, Dex 8, Con 20, Int 2, Wis 12, Cha 2
Skills: Balance +7, Climb +9, Hide -1, Move Silently +3, Swim +7
Feats: Improved Initiative, Power Attack
Challenge Rating: 4


1) I started with a standard rat, and advanced it to Huge size 4 HD (the minimum recommended for a huge monster by chapter 5 of the Monster Manual).
2) I put the 4th-HD ability boost into Dexterity, to bump it up to 8.

[ShurikVch]

Template combination of Titanic + Dungeonbred will give you Huge-sized Rat or Dire Rat

[Inevitability]

How about the Titanic template (monster manual II)? It's got 25 HD and is CR 13, which may be slightly too high.

Titanic creatures are normally Gargantuan, but the Dungeonbred template (Dungeonscape) sizes that down to Huge. It also reduces the food amounts such a monster would normally need, making it no harder to feed than a bear, tiger or other Large predator.

EDIT: Drats! Shadowbane Stalker'ed!

[flamewolf393]

Thanks guys, this'll make for an awesome companion!

[Inevitability]

Thanks guys, this'll make for an awesome companion!

How are you planning on taking it as a companion? Handle Animal abuse? Houseruling? Persisted Charm Animal?

[flamewolf393]

Discovered it trapped in the basement of the building that was just acquired, instead of it being a battle instead a ranger was hired to tame/train it. Lets say we had a hell of a rat problem, now our enemies have a huge rat problem :smallbiggrin:

[unseenmage]

I suggest naming it the ROUS-OUS. Because reasons.

[Doctor Despair]

I suggest naming it the ROUS-OUS. Because reasons.

But aren't those only found in the Fire Swamp?

[unseenmage]

But aren't those only found in the Fire Swamp?

Sure the originals are. But even the fire swamp was too small time for this biggun.