honeybunch
2017-01-08, 03:02 AM
I find the wording of the Geas spell rather confusing. I'm very new to 5E, and D&D in general, so although I've discovered that the spell apparently worked differently in previous editions, I don't have any preconceived notions.
For anyone who is not familiar with the spell, searching "Geas 5E SRD" should bring up the wording (I've made too few posts to be able to just link to it).
Anyway, my issues are as follows:
First of all, it's unclear how complicated the magical command can be. Could a wizard demand the target obey the local laws? Could a wizard read off a contract? If not, could a wizard hand the target a contract and say, "Obey this and do not alter it"? I feel like demanding the target follow the law is within the spirit of the spell, but writing up a contract is not. However, I don't see any consistent way to allow the former and disallow the latter.
Second, can the caster issue more instructions to the target while the spell is still active, either to replace or amend the original command?
Finally, can the caster use Geas multiple times to "stack" the damage for disobedience? Obviously the Charmed effect doesn't stack, but I can't see any RAW reason the caster shouldn't be able to use multiple redundant Geas spells to increase the damage to 10d10, 15d10 or more. Alternatively, if only simple commands are allowed with Geas, could the caster use the spell multiple times to issue multiple simple commands?
I feel like I should mention that I'm not asking these questions to try to powergame. Mostly I'm just frustrated by the ambiguity of the spell, both as a player and as a prospective DM. I'm hoping that some of the more experienced players and DMs in here will be able to figure out a more logical and consistent interpretation of the spell than I've been able to.
I appreciate any advice you guys can give.
For anyone who is not familiar with the spell, searching "Geas 5E SRD" should bring up the wording (I've made too few posts to be able to just link to it).
Anyway, my issues are as follows:
First of all, it's unclear how complicated the magical command can be. Could a wizard demand the target obey the local laws? Could a wizard read off a contract? If not, could a wizard hand the target a contract and say, "Obey this and do not alter it"? I feel like demanding the target follow the law is within the spirit of the spell, but writing up a contract is not. However, I don't see any consistent way to allow the former and disallow the latter.
Second, can the caster issue more instructions to the target while the spell is still active, either to replace or amend the original command?
Finally, can the caster use Geas multiple times to "stack" the damage for disobedience? Obviously the Charmed effect doesn't stack, but I can't see any RAW reason the caster shouldn't be able to use multiple redundant Geas spells to increase the damage to 10d10, 15d10 or more. Alternatively, if only simple commands are allowed with Geas, could the caster use the spell multiple times to issue multiple simple commands?
I feel like I should mention that I'm not asking these questions to try to powergame. Mostly I'm just frustrated by the ambiguity of the spell, both as a player and as a prospective DM. I'm hoping that some of the more experienced players and DMs in here will be able to figure out a more logical and consistent interpretation of the spell than I've been able to.
I appreciate any advice you guys can give.