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Garresh
2017-01-10, 10:08 PM
So as many have noticed, the Wondrous Invention class feature is a bit all over the place. Most of the high level things are completely ridiculous, like a Ring of Jumping requiring level 20. The low levels are mostly okay, but there are some things still out of place, like items which cast 3rd level spells acquired at level 2.


This is an attempt to normalize the power level of the list, while preserving the core concept of the original list. Mostly this new list consists of level adjustments, but some additional magic items have been added, with a focus on "fun" or utility items. Items with combat effects have been avoided for the most part. I've also included a changelog of each change, and an expanded explanation section of why each change was made.

New List:
2nd Level: Cap of Water Breathing, Helm of Comprehending Languages, Heward's Handy Haversack, Ring of Jumping, Mariner's Armor(Any Light), Sending Stones, Wand of Magic Detection
5th Level: Alchemy Jug, Bag of Holding, Boots of Striding and Springing, Driftglobe, Goggles of Night, Hat of Disguise, Lantern of Revealing, Ring of Swimming, Robe of Useful Items, Rope of Climbing, Wand of Secrets
10th Level: Chime of Opening, Decanter of Endless Water, Eyes of Minute Seeing, Folding Boat, Gloves of Missile Snaring, Saddle of the Cavalier
15th Level: Bag of Beans, Bracers of Archery, Brooch of Shielding, Broom of Flying, Periapt of Wound Closure, Ring of X-Ray Vision, Slippers of Spider Climbing
20th Level: Apparatus of Kwalish, Eyes of the Eagle, Gem of Brightness, Gloves of Swimming and Climbing, Ring of Mind Shielding, Wings of Flying



Changelog:


Apparatus of Kwalish added at 20th
Bag of Beans to 15th from 10th
Bag of Holding to 5th from 2nd
Boots of Striding and Springing down to 5th, from 15th.
Driftglobe to 5th from 2nd
Goggles of Night to 5th from 2nd
Gloves of Missile Snaring to 10th from 20th
Gloves of Thievery added at 15th.
Hat of Disguise to 5th from 15th
Heward's Handy Haversack to 2nd from 10th
Helm of Comprehending Languages from to 2nd from 5th
Mariner's Armor(Any Light) added at level 2.
Periapt of Wound Closure added at 15th.
Ring of jumping to 2nd from 20th
Ring of X-ray Vision added at 15th
Saddle of the Cavalier added at 10th
Wand of Magic Detection to 2nd from 5th


Explanation of Level Changes:
Bag of Beans is an oddity, as it has a lot of things of weird effects, marginal utility, or just things that need to be managed. I'm bumping this to 15 not because of any amazingly OP effects, but because it has the potential to give a DM headaches, and I'd rather put that towards the higher end.
Bag of Holding is strictly superior to heward's handy haversake, so they are switched and brought closer together.
Boots of Striding and Springing are basically jump boots, with the added bonus of not being slowed by heavy armor or encumberance. This is extremely situational, however.
Driftglobe allows you to cast a 3rd level spell once a day, which allows you to dispel magical darkness. Far too powerful for a 2nd level character when it comes up. But it's also pretty meh the rest of the time. Up to 5th.
Goggles of Night essentially equates to a Darkvision spell, which is 2nd level. While not amazingly strong, the always-on part makes this worthy of 5th level.
Gloves of missile snaring are combat gear, but the somewhat situational nature of it means its probably okay to slide down to level 10.
Hat of Disguise is awesome, but not level 15 awesome.
Helm of Comprehending Languages is basically just a 1st level spell at will. It has some utility, but its really worth of the weakest tier.
Ring of Jumping allows you to cast one of the least used 1st level spells at will. Such potency! Dropped to bottom level.
Wand of Magic Detection is essentially the warlock invocation, but tied to an item. Not game breaking, as the spell itself is a ritual anyways when cast by many.



Explanation of New Additions:
Apparatus of Kwalish comes in at a time when its potency is not that important. What matters is that it's a tank.
Gloves of Thievery are really nice, but they're a thematic fit for an artificer, so popping them in at 15 makes for a good high level perk.
Mariner's Armor serves to flesh out the low level bracket, as it is basically a worse ring of swimming, but provides the option if wanted at a low level.
Periapt of Wound Closure is another item with combat utility which doesn't directly boost any combat stats. It also has some thematic fitting. The idea of a pendant or magical construct sustaining you when you go down? That's pretty artificer to me.
Ring of X-Ray Vision is rare, but situationally useful, and limited by your exhaustion. Seems a nice thematic addition at level 15.
Saddle of the Cavalier definitely is a combat focused item, but its potency in a given campaign or build is incredibly variable. Even at its peak, it can be considered somewhat situational.

Garresh
2017-01-11, 01:59 PM
Made a few changes. I dropped Sending Stones back to level 2, put Driftglobe at level 5, and dropped Hat of Disguise to level 5.

DivisibleByZero
2017-01-11, 02:08 PM
Not positive, but I'm fairly certain that the original lists were Rarity based.

Garresh
2017-01-11, 02:17 PM
Not positive, but I'm fairly certain that the original lists were Rarity based.

They weren't. There was a general trend towards rarity at higher levels, but Ring of Jumping was a level 20 item. They generally were just all uncommons with a few Rares sprinkled in, with more focus being on avoiding overpowering utility at low levels. This list was more to clean up while maintaining the same intent and design philosophy.

King539
2017-01-11, 02:33 PM
Why si Broom of FLying lower level than WIngs of FLying? It allows flight at will, and is better. 10-foot speed difference doesn't matter.

Kane0
2017-01-11, 04:13 PM
Sending stones are in two places now.
Other than that, no issues I can see

Garresh
2017-01-11, 04:50 PM
Sending stones are in two places now.
Other than that, no issues I can see

Fixed.


Why si Broom of FLying lower level than WIngs of FLying? It allows flight at will, and is better. 10-foot speed difference doesn't matter.

I'm uncertain where to place these, to be honest. The broom of flying is better overall, but its also subject to a weight restriction, which could be something of an inconvenience. And I know 10 feet of movement isn't that big, but it's still something. Given the tendency of making combat focused items higher on the list, I was hesitant to adjust those since the wings are a little better in combat.