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Merellin
2017-01-23, 03:17 AM
Hello again! While I am trying to make my first character work, And I am still considering the awesomeness of a Halfing Wolf riding cavalier as my second character, I did notice the summoner that seems like a cool and fun character, then I noticed the Broodmaster who gets two Eidolons! And I wanted to see if this is actualy useable?

Both Eidolons are small instead of medium, Does this give them any penalties or bonuses? I had this idea of making a character who has two angel like Eidolons accompanying him (I'd evolve wings on them when I get the points and have them biped) Or maybe 1 angel and 1 canine like one..

Are their ability scores (Strenght, Dexterity, Constitution and on on) Also cut in haf and split across both of them..?

grarrrg
2017-01-23, 04:00 AM
Hello again! While I am trying to make my first character work, And I am still considering the awesomeness of a Halfing Wolf riding cavalier as my second character, I did notice the summoner that seems like a cool and fun character, then I noticed the Broodmaster who gets two Eidolons! And I wanted to see if this is actualy useable?

It can be fun at _low_ levels, and there are some tricks you can pull with Broodmaster that are harder to do elsewhere, but it is overall considered a straight downgrade from normal Summoner.


Both Eidolons are small instead of medium, Does this give them any penalties or bonuses?

From the Eidolon Base Form (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/summoner/eidolons)s section:
"If the eidolon is Small, it gains a +2 bonus to its Dexterity score. It also takes a –4 penalty to its Strength and a –2 penalty to its Constitution. It also gains a +1 size bonus to its AC and attack rolls, a –1 penalty to its CMB and CMD scores, a +2 bonus on its Fly skill checks, and a +4 bonus on its Stealth skill checks. Reduce the damage of all of its attacks by one step (1d6 becomes 1d4, 1d4 becomes 1d3)."


Are their ability scores (Strenght, Dexterity, Constitution and on on) Also cut in haf and split across both of them..?

The archetype (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/summoner/archetypes/paizo---summoner-archetypes/broodmaster) says what gets split, and how.
Assume 2nd level Broodmaster. You start with the (small) Base form stats, so for a Biped and Quad, you'd have:
Biped 12 STR, 14 DEX, 11 CON
Quad 10 STR, 16 DEX, 11 CON
Base Attack and Saves are 'special' in that you count the full-effective level for each, so they both have +2 Bab, and +3/+0 to Saves.
The rest of this is spelled out quite well in the Example (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/summoner/archetypes/paizo---summoner-archetypes/broodmaster).

Reference the Eidolon Table (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/summoner/eidolons) if needed.
Basically, Bab, Saves and anything in "special" applies to all of your Eidolons (except as altered by the Broodmaster).
Everything else must be divided.

Merellin
2017-01-23, 04:11 AM
Thanks for the post! It was much helpful ^_^ I think the Summoned seems like much fun, And Broodmaster just seems funny (Mayhaps a archer Eidolon and a fighter Eidolon.. xD) But maybe a regular summoner would be more useful to have arround..

And thanks for the bit about the size, I missed that somehow, I blame being tierd..