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flappeercraft
2017-01-27, 03:50 AM
So the only limitation an Incantatrix has is the Class feature of Focused studies due to it meaning the caster can no longer cast from a school regardless of if it is the worst school out there, or the best one it is still a limitation. So is there any way to recover the ability to fully cast from that school? I just checked the Arcane Transfiguration line of feats and the problem is that it requires the character to be a Specialist Wizard which means that if you are a Specialist Incantatrix you are still 2 Schools down and if you are not a Specialist then you can't take the feat therefore still 1 school down. So at least from what I understand that is no solution to this problem.

Gusmo
2017-01-27, 04:39 AM
If you can figure out how to fit in shadowcraft mage, abusing shadow evocation is about as close as you'll get, I believe.

Vaz
2017-01-27, 04:59 AM
Lesser Wish, not Banning Conjuration and Conjuring in things which can cast those spells, and taking a discipline which is crap/obviated elswhere.

WbtE
2017-01-27, 07:10 AM
The title of this thread sounds a bit like "wetting the ocean". :smallbiggrin:

ExLibrisMortis
2017-01-27, 07:20 AM
The title of this thread sounds a bit like "wetting the ocean". :smallbiggrin:
This is art. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5mVSLclcsw) Yes, he's emptying a bottle of lemonade into the ocean. Yes, that little bit is all there is to it. Yes, he'd doing it with TV and press coverage. In fact, this is a repeat of this artwork, especially for TV.

I'm guessing most people on here won't understand the voice-over, but it's pretty much just the newsreader explaining that it's conceptual art.



Conclusion: breaking the Incantatrix even further is art.

ayvango
2017-01-27, 07:39 AM
If you can figure out how to fit in shadowcraft mage, abusing shadow evocation is about as close as you'll get, I believe.

shadowcraft mage for shadow evocation (more precisely heightened silent image), arcane disciple luck for the miracle spell (which is evocation), heighten spell and earth spell for removing heighten level restrictions, extra slot to get 20+ spell slot, spend it to innate spell 8th level lower (12+ spell), fill rest with metamagic and new you can cast metamagiced 9th level spell (miracle for most cases) each round. Optionally get the true creation spell from arcane disciple and get expensive magic components for free.

The true, unlimited mage. Very sad to be one of them, though. There is no challenge left in the game. For fighting inside dead magic zone make 3lvl dip and become initiate of mystra. Take master spellthief and abjurant champion to sky-rocket your caster level and overcome magic resist easily. And of course you can use miracle to produce blasphemy or holy word and kill all enemies instantly if they have not died yet from all awesomes you have put on yourself prior to battle.

Kelb_Panthera
2017-01-27, 10:19 AM
Arcane transfiguration from Lost Empires of Faerun gives you back a prohibited school.

Inevitability
2017-01-27, 11:39 AM
Just pick 'Alteration' as your extra banned school. Create Chosen One isn't that great anyway.


This is art. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5mVSLclcsw) Yes, he's emptying a bottle of lemonade into the ocean. Yes, that little bit is all there is to it. Yes, he'd doing it with TV and press coverage. In fact, this is a repeat of this artwork, especially for TV.

I'm guessing most people on here won't understand the voice-over, but it's pretty much just the newsreader explaining that it's conceptual art.

Always nice to see other Dutchmen here!

The Viscount
2017-01-27, 02:00 PM
I know the board had a TO discussion about deleting class features with some element that was designed as harmful, but it's escaping my memory currently. Does anyone remember this?

Inevitability
2017-01-27, 02:20 PM
I know the board had a TO discussion about deleting class features with some element that was designed as harmful, but it's escaping my memory currently. Does anyone remember this?

Sounds like textbook Iron Heart Surge abuse to me.

flappeercraft
2017-01-27, 02:43 PM
The title of this thread sounds a bit like "wetting the ocean". :smallbiggrin:

Fair enough, not wrong


This is art. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5mVSLclcsw) Yes, he's emptying a bottle of lemonade into the ocean. Yes, that little bit is all there is to it. Yes, he'd doing it with TV and press coverage. In fact, this is a repeat of this artwork, especially for TV.

I'm guessing most people on here won't understand the voice-over, but it's pretty much just the newsreader explaining that it's conceptual art.



Conclusion: breaking the Incantatrix even further is art.
True


Arcane transfiguration from Lost Empires of Faerun gives you back a prohibited school.

I addressed this in the OP and since it requires levels in specialist wizard which means that either you take specialist wizard incantatrix with Arcane transfiguration meaning you still have 2 banned schools or you are non specialized wizard incantatrix and still 1 down due to not qualifying for it. Or am I wrong?