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Firechanter
2017-02-10, 06:14 PM
Just curious:

Suppose you want to play a human (or other short-lived race) in a really long-term campaign (several decades or even a century).
Are there workable ways in PF to extend your lifespan / rejuvenate / stay fresh and young for many many years, in Pathfinder, regardless of your class?
All so you don't have to swap out your character, while your Elf, Dwarf and Gnome buddies are still kicking.

- The ideal goal is to have your character be a Young Adult again, but retain your XP, levels, stat increases etc.
- Alternatively, "simply" stop ageing and do not die of old age.

Conditions:
- No 3.5 material allowed -- I know a couple of stunts there. Also, no 3rd Party material.
- no Undeath
- no turning into a Construct
- no taking multiple levels in a specific class
- however, having other classes cast a spell on you, or create an item for you, would be fine.

What I can think of off hand:
- Reincarnate; either spam the spell until the roll results are favourable, or buy a Wish.
- or skip the Reincarnate and just Wish yourself young again (you may need to buy a scroll for ~29.000GP and have a Wizard cast it for you).

Are there any other ways?

Sayt
2017-02-10, 06:30 PM
Well, the Golarion setting has the sun orchard elixir, which is a single use lesser artifact that resets your age you by adult.

Otherwise, and more manageable Age Resistance (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/a/age-resistance) spells.

Coidzor
2017-02-10, 07:39 PM
Cyclic Reincarnation (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/c/cyclic-reincarnation). Gets you the same race and you even pass convincingly as your own next of kin.

If you're not a humanoid, then there's a chance you actually come back as a kid.

250,000 for the material components for a charged per time period item. 792 for the actual item for a 1/month Command Word item. 65 gp and 9 coppers for the actual item for a 1/year Command Word item. 23,760 if you want it to be 1/day and really annoy the Maruts or have them go off and murder other people who you bring back to life. Or you could just go for the full price of an at-will item and do something really kooky, like set up a scheme to find out when adventurers die or go to battlefields and bring back entire armies.

At any rate, the most expensive part is the material components, but if you're planning on being immortal, you're probably planning on becoming an adult again more than 50 times.

Similar things for the Restoration/Greater Restoration item, those are going to be mostly just the expense of the material components. 50,000 material component and 1,440 for the item itself for 1/week Restoration to get rid of those negative levels over one's first week or so. 250,000 material component and 1,092 for the 1/month Greater Restoration or 89.75 for the 1/year version.

Firechanter
2017-02-10, 07:55 PM
Awesome!

The elixir seems to be strictly a quest item, not something you can just buy to continue with the regularly scheduled campaign.

But the spell is fantastic. And available much sooner than a Wish. ^^

Crake
2017-02-11, 04:07 AM
Awesome!

The elixir seems to be strictly a quest item, not something you can just buy to continue with the regularly scheduled campaign.

But the spell is fantastic. And available much sooner than a Wish. ^^

isn't it sold in like batches of 10 each year at an auction?

legomaster00156
2017-02-11, 07:18 AM
Yeah, as a matter of fact, buying the elixir is the only way to get it outside of pissing off one of Thuvia's five city-states. Doses are sold to the highest bidder, but everyone, win or lose, must pay everything they bid. (These auctions bring in hundreds of thousands of gold pieces worth of coin, gems, and magic every year.)

Particle_Man
2017-02-11, 08:29 AM
Otherwise, and more manageable Age Resistance (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/a/age-resistance) spells.

Those keep you in good shape up to the end, but don't prevent you from dying of old age, so wouldn't help the OP with their "centuries old human" project.

unseenmage
2017-02-11, 10:07 AM
The Downtime rules over on PFSRD have a buyable, buildable bath of blood that'll keep one young IIRC.

Particle_Man
2017-02-11, 11:54 AM
Holy Elizabeth Bathory, Batman! Do you have a link for this item/service?

Inevitability
2017-02-11, 12:12 PM
A 1/month item of Steal Life would be more than sufficient. Use it each full moon, drain a few ability points from some poor schmuck/volunteer, and live forever

It does require casting [evil] spells, though.

EldritchWeaver
2017-02-11, 12:21 PM
Holy Elizabeth Bathory, Batman! Do you have a link for this item/service?

No direct link, but can be found on this page (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/gamemastering/other-rules/downtime) when searching for Blood Spa. Requires killing people and doesn't seem to prevent dying from old age, though.

EisenKreutzer
2017-02-11, 03:02 PM
Whats the name of that Psychic 9th level spell which lets you switch bodies? That can be used to potentially live forever.

Inevitability
2017-02-11, 03:27 PM
Whats the name of that Psychic 9th level spell which lets you switch bodies? That can be used to potentially live forever.

I'm guessing you're talking about True Mind Switch.

Raven777
2017-02-11, 06:11 PM
Yeah, as a matter of fact, buying the elixir is the only way to get it outside of pissing off one of Thuvia's five city-states. Doses are sold to the highest bidder, but everyone, win or lose, must pay everything they bid. (These auctions bring in hundreds of thousands of gold pieces worth of coin, gems, and magic every year.)

Not the only way. They could raid the Citadel of the Alchemist (http://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Citadel_of_the_Alchemist) and murder their way to all six doses. That's certainly an adventure in and of itself.

Undeath being seemingly out of the question, my personal plan B would go to becoming a Demon (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?376027-Becoming-a-Demon-The-Guide-(-)), though. I would link directly to d20pfsrd, but their website seems down for maintenance.

legomaster00156
2017-02-12, 12:03 AM
Not the only way. They could raid the Citadel of the Alchemist (http://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Citadel_of_the_Alchemist) and murder their way to all six doses. That's certainly an adventure in and of itself.
You're right, that is a way to get the elixir without pissing off a city-state. Instead, you piss off all of them.

Coidzor
2017-02-12, 12:44 AM
You're right, that is a way to get the elixir without pissing off a city-state. Instead, you piss off all of them.

If you can deal with their A-game, there's really not much more they can do to you.

Especially if you steal the secrets of the creation of sun orchid elixir as part of doing it and leave them unable to make it themselves, so they can't use that as leverage to get more powerful nations or spellcasters to deal with you.

Granted, other interested parties may start to try their luck now that the secret has been stolen once already. Of course, a number of those will probably mess with the Thuvians trying to figure things bout by conducting their own raids on the weakened complex in hopes they find something that was missed.

vasilidor
2017-02-12, 03:47 PM
well, if the campaign is supposed to take course over centuries, you could go the hereditary quest route instead. your character sheet becomes the stat block of whichever descendant of the original character to take up the quest. during the decades of downtime the character then marries, has kids and trains the next generation up to his level and decks them out with all the gear collected by the family thus far.

that is if you do not like any of the other bits people have presented to you.

or I just remembered that in earlier versions of the game, wishing to age slower was totally within the powers of a wish spell.

EisenKreutzer
2017-02-12, 07:52 PM
If DSP psionics is on the table, another option is to get turned into an Elan.

Calthropstu
2017-02-12, 08:20 PM
A psion (A rather evil one) can true mindswitch with you then true mindswitch someone else. (Or you could umd a dorje of it) (psionics... may be outlawed)

Polymorph any object may be able to accomplish this, subject to gm discretion.

The elixer has been mentioned, if they can create it, no reason you can't quest for its secrets. Gm discretion.

Astral projection puts you in stasis... so arguably you don't age. If you DO age while in Astral projection placing your inert form in quintessence would do the trick. (needs psionics)

Attaining 6 mythic ranks allows you to take immortality.

Firechanter
2017-02-13, 06:17 AM
Just a note, concerning Polymorph Any Object:
the problem with that is that it is Permanent duration. Which means that it can be dispelled. Which is not good for obvious reasons. ;)

khadgar567
2017-02-13, 09:10 AM
There is a ritual in one of the third party books allowing you to become immortal via killing some one with equal power

Inevitability
2017-02-13, 10:03 AM
There is a ritual in one of the third party books allowing you to become immortal via killing some one with equal power

I'd say that by now, about anything can be found in 3.5's third party books. There's a race of halfling/blink dog crossbreeds in one of the more popular ones, for crying out loud.

khadgar567
2017-02-13, 10:45 AM
I'd say that by now, about anything can be found in 3.5's third party books. There's a race of halfling/blink dog crossbreeds in one of the more popular ones, for crying out loud.
only thing you cant find in 3rd party books how obscure it is is a god damn belly dancer base class. please prove me wrong

Inevitability
2017-02-13, 11:54 AM
only thing you cant find in 3rd party books how obscure it is is a god damn belly dancer base class. please prove me wrong

What do you expect a 'belly dancer base class' to be able to do? Wouldn't a few ranks in Perform (Belly Dancing) be sufficient?

If you really want to do something with the skill, enter Exemplar. You're so good at belly dancing it makes people like you!

khadgar567
2017-02-13, 12:06 PM
What do you expect a 'belly dancer base class' to be able to do? Wouldn't a few ranks in Perform (Belly Dancing) be sufficient?

If you really want to do something with the skill, enter Exemplar. You're so good at belly dancing it makes people like you!
lets forget this shall we?

Segev
2017-02-13, 12:12 PM
If you're wiling to do the "sleep until needed" thing, you could have somebody cast flesh to stone on you, and have others use stone to flesh to restore you when plot demands your presence.

Inevitability
2017-02-13, 01:24 PM
If you're wiling to do the "sleep until needed" thing, you could have somebody cast flesh to stone on you, and have others use stone to flesh to restore you when plot demands your presence.

A quintessence bath is probably a better plan in that case. The involved NPC's can be lower-level, there's no risk of being killed upon awakening, and the chance of someone finding your immobilized body and using it to decorate their lair are significantly reduced.

Segev
2017-02-13, 01:49 PM
A quintessence bath is probably a better plan in that case. The involved NPC's can be lower-level, there's no risk of being killed upon awakening, and the chance of someone finding your immobilized body and using it to decorate their lair are significantly reduced.

While I agree the NPCs can be lower level, the amount of quintessence needed is prohibitive without significant PP reserves. Also, I don't see how your odds of being located and moved are lower. Unless you mean people failing to mistake you for a statue will work to your benefit. The lower chance of dying upon awakening is a plus, though.

Raven777
2017-02-13, 11:03 PM
While I agree the NPCs can be lower level, the amount of quintessence needed is prohibitive without significant PP reserves. Also, I don't see how your odds of being located and moved are lower. Unless you mean people failing to mistake you for a statue will work to your benefit. The lower chance of dying upon awakening is a plus, though.
Is there even Quintessence in Pathfinder?

Coidzor
2017-02-14, 12:06 AM
Is there even Quintessence in Pathfinder?

Depends on what you mean.

There's a spell. (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/q/quintessence/) It doesn't do anything actually useful though, except, I suppose, mask lepers and diseased people as if they're healthy.

There's a 3rd party psionic power. (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/psionics-unleashed/psionic-powers/q/quintessence/) So, presumably, if one is using any form of Psionics rules in PF, one is either playing 3.P or using Dreamscarred Press's material, so there'd be Quintessence without further rulings. If one isn't playing with Psionics rules, then, no.