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Yogibear41
2017-02-15, 01:52 PM
Can an outsider that has taken levels in Fiend of Possession (prestige class from fiend folio) that also has the racial ability to greater teleport at will, but only itself and 50 lbs worth of items (the general type of teleport most outsiders have) Teleport the creature it is possessing via its class ability?

Uncle Pine
2017-02-15, 02:02 PM
I think so, as a FoP possessing a creature "cannot be targeted by spells or attacks separately from the victim" and the target of greater teleport is the caster himself.

Segev
2017-02-15, 02:59 PM
Yeah, when he's possessing something or someone, that possessed body is "his."

Necroticplague
2017-02-15, 07:59 PM
Yes. Assuming the limits of Possess Object also extend to Possess Creature (since, otherwise, the list of what you can do while possessing is fairly ill-defined), and combining with Possess Creature's text, makes this incredibly clear.


While possessing an object, a fiend of possession can use any ability it has that requires no physical action, such as using a spell-like ability or telepathy. It cannot cast spells (since it can neither speak nor move), attack physically, or perform any other physical action, until it reaches a high enough level to make the possessed object perform these tasks for it.

A fiend possessing a creature becomes a part of the victim, so it is no longer ethereal. It cannot be targeted by spells or attacks separately from the victim, including attacks from ethereal creatures. Damage taken by the possessed creature has no effect on the fiend. If the victim dies, the fiend is forced back into its ethereal form.

Meanwhile, Control Creature is even more explicitely "yes" about it.

While in control of a victim, the fiend of possession has access to all the creature's abilities, skills, feats, and spell knowledge. The fiend now acts as though it is the creature in all respects, until it loses or relinquishes control. The fiend uses its own Intelligence, Wisdom, and Charisma scores, but adopts all of the possessed creature's physical ability scores. It can make use of its own spell-like abilities as well.