Help! I'm a dragon who needs to stop an older dragon's scrying!

[Snowbluff]

And I'm part bard, so scrying immunity would be best if I didn't make myself immune to mind affecting!

Character sheet (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1113396)

[CartmanTuttle]

Nondetection, with Metamagics to buff up the DC.

[Zaq]

What build resources can you invest? Levels? Feats? Spells known? Gold?

[NecroDancer]

Unrelated but how did you become a dragon?

[Palanan]

Originally Posted by Snowbluff
Character sheet

Also, why aren’t you adding your Con and Wisdom mods to your base saves?

[Crake]

A runestaff with private sanctum? Detect scrying and dispel magic?

Also, if you get immunity to mind affecting, you can willingly lower your resistance to mind affecting to affect yourself with inspire courage or whatever the same way elves can willingly lower their immunity to sleep to be affected by sleep spells.

[Snowbluff]

Nondetection, with Metamagics to buff up the DC.
Will MM buff a CL check? :l

Unrelated but how did you become a dragon?
It's for a game. We all play as dragons. CR 16, with class levels counting as 1/2 CR.

Also, why aren’t you adding your Con and Wisdom mods to your base saves?
Sheet's not done

[Flickerdart]

Engage the services of a talented painter, and surround your lair with photorealistic depictions of things the elder dragon does not really want to see.

[Palanan]

It's an elder dragon. They've seen it all.

:smallamused:

[Troacctid]

You could perform the Ritual of Xorvintaal (MM5). Divination spells cannot reveal information about a xorvintaal dragon's future moves in the game. +0 CR, but you lose your racial spellcasting.

If you went Evil, you could be Vecna-blooded (also MM5) and be immune to all divinations. +1 CR.

[Snowbluff]

Engage the services of a talented painter, and surround your lair with photorealistic depictions of things the elder dragon does not really want to see.
I'll be one the move. Not sure if my illithid porn collection can go with me.

It's an elder dragon. They've seen it all.

:smallamused:
He's trying to get me to commit genocide on another dragon color, so I've decided to just do it to his kind instead.

You could perform the Ritual of Xorvintaal (MM5). Divination spells cannot reveal information about a xorvintaal dragon's future moves in the game. +0 CR, but you lose your racial spellcasting.

If you went Evil, you could be Vecna-blooded (also MM5) and be immune to all divinations. +1 CR.

Well, I need the casting for Prestige Bard...

And I'm neutral. :smallfrown:

[Flickerdart]

I'll be one the move. Not sure if my illithid porn collection can go with me.
Enthrall a couple of mind flayers that will travel with you, their only job is to do the horizontal tango during the night.

[daremetoidareyo]

constant scrying?

Darkness spell + friends + pimped out disguise checks.

Make 2-10 beings disguised to look like someone else walk out of that darkness.

[Kelb_Panthera]

Third eye conceal.

[Vizzerdrix]

Lead umbrella?

[ShurikVch]

Remote View Trap (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/powers/remoteViewTrap.htm)
With Fell Drain

[Strigon]

He's trying to get me to commit genocide on another dragon color, so I've decided to just do it to his kind instead...

And I'm neutral. :smallfrown:

A genocidal neutral character?

[Zaq]

You still haven't said what resources you're willing to spend. This will look very different if you just want a magic item or something versus if you're willing to drop a feat and invest in a PrC or something.

[Snowbluff]

Third eye conceal.
This was my first choice, I'd prefer not to use mindblank.

A genocidal neutral character?
The dragon guy telling me to do this is a tyrant. I might end up being good under the 3.5 rules for killing a large number of red dragons, but it's my cross to bear.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PXdwqlJ19U

You still haven't said what resources you're willing to spend. This will look very different if you just want a magic item or something versus if you're willing to drop a feat and invest in a PrC or something.

Gold and maybe a feat, skillpoints. Of course, it doesn't matter if I am simply given the entirety of the options available.

[Doctor Awkward]

How does Mind Blank protect you from being scryed upon?

Oh it specifically says so in Mind Blank. Huh. Forgot about that.

Welp. Since no one else mentioned it, a specific use of Spellcraft (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/spellcraft.htm) is identifying a spell that you just had to roll a save against. So once the DM ask you to roll a save, you roll to Spellcraft it. If you get it as scrying, just use your Third-Eye Conceal then.

[daremetoidareyo]

Does darkvision work through scrying?

[Snowbluff]

How does Mind Blank protect you from being scryed upon?

Oh it specifically says so in Mind Blank. Huh. Forgot about that.

Welp. Since no one else mentioned it, a specific use of Spellcraft (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/spellcraft.htm) is identifying a spell that you just had to roll a save against. So once the DM ask you to roll a save, you roll to Spellcraft it. If you get it as scrying, just use your Third-Eye Conceal then.
THe third eye conceal is continuous.

Does darkvision work through scrying?
IIRC, yes.

[Doctor Awkward]

Does darkvision work through scrying?

Yes. Scrying uses the same visual acuity possessed by the caster, including magical effects.

[GoodbyeSoberDay]

If you're actually concerned about scrying of some sort, and not other divinations, and you're flying around all the time, then I'd (1) pump your saves with cheap items like Scry Shroud (MiC), (2) Have Detect Scrying (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/detectScrying.htm) up at all times with a good dispel modifier/middle finger claw, and (3) mostly not be doing betraying things. If you're just flying around, he apparently has to waste his whole day watching you do nothing interesting for the most part, in a limited view window, with limited idea of what's actually going on. If he gets an underling to do it, all of a sudden it's a lot easier to block a weaker scryer.

If this dragon is powerful enough to scry you all day, though, he should probably have access to far more effective divinations such as Commune. There's not much you can do about your elder asking Tiamat (or the like) whether you've betrayed the cause, outside of being Vecna-blooded, which you've already established is a no-no. Honestly, the best way to stop the elder from figuring out your treachery might be to gank him before he knows what's coming.

(Side note: I assume you must start as an Adult-or-older dragon. Did anyone else happen to pick something like a (spellhoarding loredrake) Adult Steel Dragon/casteradvancingclass 16? If so, pump that bardic diplomacy and ask for their help in curb-stomping whatever trifle is bothering you.)

[Darrin]

False vision is on the bard's list. You'll want to check with the DM on what constitutes "interacting", but usually it's touching rather than watching. Cast it from scrolls, or create a continuous magic item that you can take with you.

[ArgentumRegio]

If you can go where the Wild Magic is strong - a bit of scrying may prove your enemies' undoing, especially if they cast spells through the scry.

[Kelb_Panthera]

I'd prefer not to use mindblank.

I feel compelled to ask; why?

[Inevitability]

Enthrall a couple of mind flayers that will travel with you, their only job is to do the horizontal tango during the night.

The amusingness of this quote notwithstanding, I doubt illithid 'equipment' is still functional.

...Then again, it may just add a new layer of horror.

[Inevitability]

I feel compelled to ask; why?

Immunity to mind-affecting and 'bluff being a bard.

[barakaka]

Away from books, but I'm pretty sure there's a drug that leaves you immune to scrying for a time. Your drag could be trippin' some serious balls.

[daremetoidareyo]

Kill a larger lead Dragon and wear its skin

[Blackhawk748]

Kill a larger lead Dragon and wear its skin

http://i.imgur.com/81pawEd.jpg

I was coming here to say something along these lines. Lead is your friend