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Thurbane
2017-02-23, 07:05 PM
If you gave Battle Dancer (Dragon Compendium) maneuvers/stances, refresh mechanic and IL progression as a Swordsage, how much would it boost the class?

Cheers - T
atemu1234
2017-02-23, 07:09 PM
It'd be about as good, maybe a little worse than a Swordsage. At higher levels it'd definitely be behind.
Grod_The_Giant
2017-02-23, 07:36 PM
So... a Cha-based Swordsage with a slightly different set of class features? I mean, you'd be a Swordsage. You'll do fine.
atemu1234
2017-02-23, 07:40 PM
So... a Cha-based Swordsage with a slightly different set of class features? I mean, you'd be a Swordsage. You'll do fine.

And - without the ability synergy that Swordsage provides - you'd be behind swordsage. Not bad by any means, but still.
Palanan
2017-02-23, 08:21 PM
For another take on a battle dancer fix, here’s a version (http://torchofspirit.proboards.com/thread/5/classes?page=1#scrollTo=462) from StreamOfTheSky, reframed as a capoeirista.

(Scroll down to the fourth post in the thread.)

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Grod_The_Giant
2017-02-23, 08:45 PM
And - without the ability synergy that Swordsage provides - you'd be behind swordsage. Not bad by any means, but still.
What "ability synergy?" Not getting to wear armor is admittedly painful, but you really just lose out on stat-to-damage-with-certain-maneuvers--- not something the Swordsage really struggles with. Instead, you get to be one of... what, three melee classes with native access to Pounce? (Barbarian, Wildshape Ranger, and Battle Dancer). In either case, maneuvers more than compensate for class features.
StreamOfTheSky
2017-02-23, 08:46 PM
For another take on a battle dancer fix, here’s a version (http://torchofspirit.proboards.com/thread/5/classes?page=1#scrollTo=462) from StreamOfTheSky, reframed as a capoeirista.

(Scroll down to the fourth post in the thread.)

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Thanks! Here's a direct link (http://torchofspirit.proboards.com/post/462).
One major thing I did notice from using the class is that you should remove the requirements from Improved Feint, otherwise outside of great rolls or high point buy, a Capoeirista who wants it is going to be hard pressed. It's a pretty MAD class (Str/Dex/Con/Cha), and the high skill points was meant to help allow the character to not need Int. Being outside of the class itself, there wasn't much I could do about it. :smallfrown: