Feiting and full defense

[Max Caysey]

Hi...

Playing a rogue with a low AC, I wanted to feint, but standing still nect to an enemy seems bad. Therefore, I wanted to feint, but allso go full defensive as to improve my AC with +4 dodge (+6 with 5 ranks in tumble). But I'm not sure I can. As I read it, its a standard action and a full round action. Even with improved feint it seems imposible....

So to sum up... Can I feint while going full defensive?

[Necroticplague]

Hi...

Playing a rogue with a low AC, I wanted to feint, but standing still nect to an enemy seems bad. Therefore, I wanted to feint, but allso go full defensive as to improve my AC with +4 dodge (+6 with 5 ranks in tumble). But I'm not sure I can. As I read it, its a standard action and a full round action. Even with improved feint it seems imposible....

So to sum up... Can I feint while going full defensive?
Yes, but you'd need to investment a decent amount of levels and a feat into doing so. Beguiler 6 grants the ability to Feint as a swift action if you have Improved Feint, which would allow for this.

At that point, I have to wonder, though: what's the point? Feinting only helps you make melee attacks, so turtling up after Feinting makes the Feint pointless.

[KillianHawkeye]

Um... Total Defense (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/combat/actionsInCombat.htm#totalDefense) is a Standard action. You absolutely can Improved Feint and Total Defense in the same round.

EDIT:

At that point, I have to wonder, though: what's the point? Feinting only helps you make melee attacks, so turtling up after Feinting makes the Feint pointless.

You can feint in one round and then make the attack the next round. That's how it's normally done if you don't have any feats to improve feinting.

[Max Caysey]

Um... Total Defense (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/combat/actionsInCombat.htm#totalDefense) is a Standard action. You absolutely can Improved Feint and Total Defense in the same round.

EDIT:


You can feint in one round and then make the attack the next round. That's how it's normally done if you don't have any feats to improve feinting.

Sweet... I dont know how I could have overlooked this! But this is awesome! Or, as awesome as feint goes!

Thanks for comments!

[KillianHawkeye]

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