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jollysunflora
2017-03-11, 06:23 PM
I got bored and decided to figure myself if I were in d20 modern.


Cut irrelevant stuff

Light load: 38 lb. or less
Medium load: 39-76 lb.
Heavy load: 77-115 lb.
Lift over head: 115 lb.
Lift off ground: 230 lb.
Push or drag: 575 lb.

Creative (starting occupation)

Computer Use
Craft (writing)
Perform (act)

Optional:

Dæmon: Ekundayo (Songbird: Grey Wagtail)

HIT POINTS: 2
HIT DICE: 1/4 d8
SIZE: Tiny
REACH: 0ft SPEED: 5 ft (1 square), fly 40 ft. (good)
STR 1[-4], DEX 15[+2], CON 10[-1], INT 17[+3], WIS 14[+1], CHA 14[+0]
ATTACK:
BAB: +3 ATTACK: PECK +5 (1d3-4),
CMB: +3
DEFENCE:
AC: 16 (+4 size, +2 Dex), touch 16, flat-footed 14
CMD: 11 (15 vs. trip)
SAVES: FORT 2, REF 4, WILL 2
SKILLS:
Listen +5, Spot +5
FEATS:
Alertness, Lightning Reflexes, Flying Dæmon
SPECIAL ABILITIES:
Low-Light Vision


I didn't quite feel like putting in all the skills since I have no idea how to make a chart. My constituion drops down to 8 in cold weather. I read way too much and was raised Christian and plan to become a minister re the theology savant feat...

Koo Rehtorb
2017-03-11, 07:04 PM
Unless you are a remarkable person you probably don't have a stat over 13.

jollysunflora
2017-03-11, 09:18 PM
I just posted what the results from this website (http://www.kevinhaw.com/add_quiz.php) gave me.

Nightcanon
2017-03-14, 11:44 AM
I just posted what the results from this website (http://www.kevinhaw.com/add_quiz.php) gave me.

I find it interesting that (by your sig at least) you seem to identify as 'disabled', yet that website apparently gives you better Str and Con than it does me! I wouldn't call myself an athlete by any means, and I qualify for age-related penalties as signified by the fact that I no longer score the points I once would for sporting hobbies or running, but I'm still pretty fit: cycle briskly for around an hour every day, can hike in mountainous terrain for 10-12 hours at a stretch, and can still *just* manage to cope with working 24hrs+ without sleep on a regular basis (profession: medicine)... I miss out on points for Con because of how alcohol works in (A)D&D, which I suppose is a D&D-accurate feature of the website but a poor reflection of real-life relationship between alcohol and health. I guess it mainly shows up the disparity between what D&D can stat out with 6 attributes and the variety in real-life.

noob
2017-03-14, 12:44 PM
I have got 3 in all stats except in int where I somehow got 4
I guess the website forbids to have less than 4 in int or I did not read properly the questions(which is likely given how dumb I am).

Khedrac
2017-03-14, 01:59 PM
The app you linked claims to be an AD&D stats creator. Whilst D20 (so D&D 3E, 3.5 & D20 modern) also uses the basic 3-18 generation method, the implications of the stats is actually very different in D20.
Remember, that with D20, whilst a starting stat will cap at 18, the 1 point every 4 levels can push it higher. In AD&D a stat over 18 (or 18:00 for some stats/versions) is literally inhuman.
The carrying tables were very different, and the point at which you get bonuses (and penalities) form a non-average stat is different.

In short, simply takign the test and using the results for D20 modern is a bad idea. Better is to look at the questiosn and your answers, then look up the D20 stats descriptions to work out what the D20 equivalent stat is. It will probably be close, but don't assume it will be the same.

jollysunflora
2017-03-14, 08:54 PM
Ok what stat descriptions are you talking about? I tried looking for them but am at a loss...how would you convert the numbers then?

Anonymouswizard
2017-03-14, 09:05 PM
Just for fun, I think I'll put down what i assume my stats would be in d20 from personal experience. Note that these are entirely subjective and even the physical stats aren't based off of hard numbers.

Strength 12: I'm slightly stronger than most people I know, partially from being overweight for most of my life. However i don't train with weights and I'm weaker than most regular gym uses i know, so enough to give a bonus without being amazing.
Dexterity 8: I think it might be a little bit lower, but not significantly. I'm clumsy in real life through a mixture of being obese and just not having a great sense of where my body is, although I'm better than i was.
Constitution 10: not particularly hardy or resistant to disease.
Intelligence 14: I'm smart, but not overly smart. I get somewhere between a 2:2 and a 2:1 at university and people say i sound smart, but i know people much more intelligent than me.
Wisdom 9: yeah, I'm a bit oblivious and nonperceptive. I need time to make good decisions.
Charisma 12: I seen to naturally get along well with people, although i find it tiresome. I'm not great at it, but I'm good enough to probably scrape a +1 bonus.

So yeah, i think of myself as a bit over average, but then again there's some major bias here :smallwink: for class probably Smart Hero in d20 modern or Wizard in D&D, with an allotment of lawful neutral (my friends tend to tag me as such anyway, and apparently think of specialise in necromancy).

Khedrac
2017-03-15, 04:38 AM
Ok what stat descriptions are you talking about? I tried looking for them but am at a loss...how would you convert the numbers then?
This is where you need actual rulebooks, not the SRD.
I don't know for D20 modern, but the Player(')s Handbooks have a section describing each of the six statistics and that they represent. For Strength you may also need to find the encumberance rules to look at carrying capacity.

Joe the Rat
2017-03-15, 08:56 AM
Anon's got the right outlook.

Str: 10. 'bout average, not so punchy, but extra on the lifty/hauly side. Points in Swimming.
Dex: 10. I have my clumsy moments, but I'm a halfway decent catch. A few points in Balance, Hiding, Move Silently.
Con: 13. Endurance for days, rarely get sick, but not that much pain tolerance, and a chronic injury.
Int: 15. I'm reliably +2 s.d. on aptitude tests, but would hardly clamour for "genius." Lots of points in Lores and Search
Wis: 9. Bad decision-making, lack of insight, and questionable willpower. Points in Spot.
Cha: 12. Likeable, but not immensely so. Points in Bluff; I really need to put some into Diplomacy.

Smart Hero.

Professor Chimp
2017-03-15, 10:24 AM
Str 10: People often comment I'm stronger than I look (quite skinny), but that's just their expectations being subverted, not that I'm in any way above average.
Dex 10: Bit of an odd case. Can move quiet as a mouse. Quite good at fine detail work that requires a very steady hand. But also very clumsy when wielding larger things or catching a ball. Evens out to average.
Con 10: Rarely ever get sick. When I do, kick its ass in about a day. Good pain resistance (more a willpower thing than toughness tho). Lack of exercise leaves little endurance.
Int 14: Good at solving practical problems. Can keep up intellectually with my PhD friends. Could do higher level academics, but lack interest and prefer things hands-on.
Wis 12: Quite perceptive, often notice small details others missed. Quite willful and decent planner. Rarely forget things. Not very good at reading social cues tho.
Cha 7: Socially awkward to the point of excentric. Have a hard time making friends. My few friends do value my generosity and friendship.

Basically, just an average, somewhat geeky dude.

Kiero
2017-03-15, 10:27 AM
Unless you are a remarkable person you probably don't have a stat over 13.

Some of us are "remarkable" people.

jollysunflora
2017-03-15, 11:08 AM
Strength: 11 People always seem to be shocked when I can lift grocery bags and stuff because I'm small framed? But its just average weight? My goal this summer is to start lifting weights and learn to surf.

Dexterity: 12 Living with a cat and playing video games since early childhood has given me OK hand eye coordination.

Constitution: 9 I'm disabled. Got a good pain tolerance, but I get winded easily due to my narrow airway so I figure they cancel each other out. If I keep up on the exercise I can probably get this higher but it'd take some time.

Intelligence: 16 I've always been the brainy sort. Got extra points in Knowledge (Religion).

Wisdom: 14 I tend to be a pretty observant person, and people are always surprised at the little details I can remember.

Charisma: 15 I'm seen as conventionally attractive, I've finally figured out personal hygiene and people tend to feel calm around me. I also get compliments on my tattoos a lot.

Lalliman
2017-03-15, 11:53 AM
Unless you are a remarkable person you probably don't have a stat over 13.
That's a bit of a big statement. Just because a D&D commoner has 10 in everything doesn't mean real people are the same.

But indeed, these kind of "what are your D&D stats?" tests tend to give exaggerated results. I guess that's cause it's more exciting to get a set of stats that could actually make an effective D&D character, rather than just getting a bunch of scores between 8 and 14.

Anyways, I'd define myself as follows.

Str 12: I work out a bit, but not as much as I would like. Being fairly large of frame helps.
Dex 10: Video games improved my hand-eye coordination, but my lack of spacial awareness (see Wis) brings it back down. Points in Unintentional Stealth.
Con 10: I never know how to evaluate my Con score. The fact that nothing about it stands out means it's probably average.
Int 14: I have a scientific mindset and am great at abstract thinking. Points in Knowledge (Nature).
Wis 8: I'm the kinda guy who looks for his phone while it's in his hand, and who forgets your name seconds after you've said it.
Cha 12: This one is difficult. I'm a good public speaker and I've worked as a teacher in the past. But I'm also introverted and have trouble really connecting with people. Highly dependent on situation, but let's be positive and call it a 12.

Nightcanon
2017-03-15, 12:21 PM
Some of us are "remarkable" people.

Even in old-skool, '3d6 in order and you're done' character generation, getting an 18 in a given attribute was a 1 in 216 chance, and 2 standard deviations above the mean score gave you a 16.5. If you use 4d6, drop the lowest, then there is a skew towards higher scores with mean +2sd closer to 18 than 17. The chance of a given 4d6, drop lowest roll yielding an 18 is about 1.6%, or 1 in 63.
I mostly played 2eAD&D, in which scores in the higher teens were implied in the 'fluff' to be all but super-human (the 'what your scores mean' section gave two possible interpretations for a set of attributes whose best scores were a 14 Int and 13 Dex, with Str and Cha both below 9. iirc, one was a shy, tinkering rogue type and the other a rude wizard). At the time I attended a 12-form entry comprehensive school (for non UK readers, a non-selective, non fee-paying school which took pupils from a geographically defined area which in this case included both moderately affluent and deprived areas) so was one of ~360 in my year group, of whom about 2/3 stayed on to age 18.
If the intelligence scores of my year group are assumed to be distributed as per 3d6, that gives one or maybe two in the year with an 18 Int, and 5-6 with a 17 (and similar numbers with 3 or 4s, though one could argue that such individuals might be in special needs provision elsewhere). I was fairly consistently top in my year at sciences and maths (a classmate was better at pure maths while I had more of a flair for mechanics, geometry and the kind of quirky stuff that come up on IQ tests and 'maths olympiad' type things) so perhaps I have a claim on one of the 17s or 18s. I score a 17 on jollysunflora's website for Int, largely I suspect for having got a PhD; again, I reckon that a couple of handfuls of my former classmates probably did the same (although I suspect I'm not alone in feeling that ultimately this came down not to intelligence but to extreme stubbornness and refusal to be beaten). Other classmates have similar acheivements that might qualify them for possible 17s and 18s in Dex, Con, and possibly Cha both by the criteria presented in the website and statistically as fastest/ fittest/ prettiest/ most persuasive in group of 60-200 people. The disconnect is that in AD&D a 17 Int is presented as being capable of altering reality in an instant through mental prowess alone (Raistlin Majere has a 17 Int in the original Dragonlance supplement book, for example). My old high-school sparring partner in maths had a post-school career that took her via Oxford and Harvard to a post-doc job in Cambridge where she used to see Stephen Hawking across the corridor; in 3.5E terms she put her level 4 ability increase into Int to get a 19, I guess. She's still ridiculously smart but she doesn't have the potential.to cast Wish...

Anderlith
2017-03-15, 05:06 PM
In have 17-18 in everything. Without a good metric on which to judge yourself you have nothing to go with. People have a range of strength, people constantly break records. Humanity has no ceiling. No limits. We overcome. The average IQ is always going up & having to be recallibrated. So even the milestones of older versions maybe outdated for people today. I remember one time I was reading strength scores in a game & saw that an average person would be completely encumbered when caringing another person. I promptly threw my friend over my shoulders & ran around at a light jog & did some calisthenics with him on my shoulders, i would say i was lightly to mediumly encumbered, by the games mechanics i would have been in the top tier of strength. I am far from that. Stronger than average sure but not nearly as strong as the rulebook would have made me.

In truth my stats are
Str 13
Dex 12
Con 14
Int 17-18
Wis 15-16
Cha 8

This is based on only my idea of my own reletive abilities, test scores, & general fitness level.

Cluedrew
2017-03-15, 05:18 PM
I can't help noticing that wisdom seems to be the stat most commonly below 10 so far... I feel there is some significance to that. (I count CON: 1 WIS: 3 CHA: 2)

Lalliman
2017-03-15, 05:41 PM
I can't help noticing that wisdom seems to be the stat most commonly below 10 so far... I feel there is some significance to that. (I count CON: 1 WIS: 3 CHA: 2)
I've seen threads like these before, and most of the time Cha is the lowest stat. That's the D&D community for ya. I think in this case we just have a bunch of ditzes together by coincidence.

Of course, Int is always the most common high stat by far, just like in this thread. Again, that's the demographic.

Siosilvar
2017-03-16, 05:29 PM
All the big d20 systems make similar assumptions, and I like to use the full 3d6 range, so here we are:

STR 6-7 (estimated from carrying capacity)
DEX 13-14 (estimated from reaction time)
CON 7-9 (who knows, but I definitely seem to get sick more often and winded faster than the average person)
INT 16-18 (estimated from academic performance and sheer pattern recognition ability)
WIS 12-13 (difficult to estimate, but seems fair)
CHA 13-15 (difficult to estimate; I'm considered conventionally attractive and often, but nowhere near always, looked to as the default leader in a group despite my protests and general introversion)