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Blu
2017-03-14, 01:44 PM
So, at one of my tables i will play a gish(table started at lvl 1), for the martial side i choose Duskblade, since it has INT synergy with Wizard and Combat casting and Armored mage(light) are basically two free feats besides some casting. I plan on going on the Spellsword 1 to Abjurant champion route and i'm really indecise about the level layout.

Here is my planned build, also if you would like to PEACH, feel free to.
Race: Illumian
Stats rolled:
14 STR
14 DEX
16 CON
12 WIS
18 INT
14 CHA
Transmutation domain Wizard 1/Duskblade 2/Wizard 3/Spellsword 1/Abjurant champion 5/Sacred exorcist 8

Feats:
Collegiate wizard(Lvl 1)
Knowledge Devotion(Lvl 3)
Extend spell(Lvl 6)
Arcane strike(Lvl 9)
Persist spell(Lvl 12)
Don't have any more ideas for feats after lvl 12.

So now goes the question, i can trade one of the wizard levels for one level in duskblade(while still hitting benchmark for gishes) to gain Arcane channeling but i don't know if that ability is really worth it overall since i will lose 1 caster lvl. What thoughts can you guys share on this?

tyckspoon
2017-03-14, 03:40 PM
I wouldn't bother. Between Arcane Strike (and/or the similar Abjurant Champion class feature), probably Haste, and a +16 minimum BAB you really want to be full attacking. Duskblade 3 channel is incompatible with that; it leads more to a one-big-hit style of attack. If you're interested in spell channeling, consider getting a Spell Storing weapon, look at the Smiting Spell metamagic feat, or just find a way to take more levels of Spellsword. That said, since you say you're actually going to have to play this out from 1, Duskblade 3 will make your lower level game feel a lot better. Depending on the speed your group likes to level at that may be a lot more important than being theoretically more efficient when/if you get to the double digit levels you'll need to really see the build blossom.

Blu
2017-03-14, 04:07 PM
So, that's my doubt. The DM is up to go to really high levels. Choosing Arcane channeling will slow me down but up my early game a lot. A touch spell channeled plus wraithstrike can really up my damage at low levels but just becames a trick when iteratives come online.

noce
2017-03-14, 05:37 PM
Sorry if I ask, but what does peach mean in this context?

Blu
2017-03-14, 05:44 PM
Sorry if I ask, but what does peach mean in this context?

Share your toughts about the build, if it's good, if not, what can improve, etc... I think

Dagroth
2017-03-14, 05:50 PM
Why Transmutation? Everyone knows that the broken route of Conjuration (abrupt jaunt) is the way to go.

Blu
2017-03-14, 05:54 PM
Why Transmutation? Everyone knows that the broken route of Conjuration (abrupt jaunt) is the way to go.

I decided not to go with a school specialization and instead chose domain wizard. Also, transmutation as Haste and polymorph.

Dagroth
2017-03-14, 08:14 PM
I decided not to go with a school specialization and instead chose domain wizard. Also, transmutation as Haste and polymorph.

So does Wizard. So does a Conjuration specialist who gives up Illusion & Evocation.

If you're going to be a Domain Wizard, you should go for a Domain that mostly gives you spells that aren't on your list.

Khedrac
2017-03-15, 04:29 AM
Sorry if I ask, but what does peach mean in this context?
Please Evaluate And Comment Honestly

One question on Duskblade Arcane Channelling - the text says "any touch spell you know" but will your DM interpret this as "any duskblade touch spell you know" or "any touch spell from any of your casting classes?" Most people will argue that RAW is "any", but since classes are almost always written as if the character will be single classed the DM may not see it that way.
One level of duskblade is giving you armored casting (light) and martial weapon proficiency, but what is the second level giving you other than "one fewer level of wizard casting"?

Blu
2017-03-15, 06:24 AM
Second level of duskblade gets me Combat casting and +1 BBA. With this build i need to have at least two levels with a good bba class to meet the prereq. of the spellsword.

For spellword i need +4 BBA and 2nd level spells. So Duskablade 3/Wiz 3 or Duskblade 2/Wiz 4 work just fine.