schreier
2017-03-18, 09:35 AM
This would really only come up in a very high campaign, or in a gestalt build, but I am a little confused by the phrasing on the Cleric Spell Access class feature.
It says:
"A 10th level rainbow servant can learn and cast spells from the cleric list, even if they don't appear on the lists of any spellcasting class he has. Such spells are cast as divine spells if they don't appear on the sorcerer/wizard or bard spell lists ...."
If you had a beguiler / wizard / rainbow servant - would both beguiler and wizard gain the spells? It does say "any spellcasting class he has ..." which definitely implies the possibility of multiple spellcasting classes, and seems to grant it to both?
This "multiple spellcasting classes" point is also supported by the "Spells per Day/Spells Known" section - which, granted uses standard phrasing. It says:
"If a character had more than one spellcasting class in which she could cast 3rd-level arcane spells before she became a rainbow servant, the player must decide which class to assign each level of rainbow servant for the purpose of determining spells per day and spells known."
It says that the caster would need to be able to cast level 3 arcane spells from the class for it to qualify for the increased caster level, so that would probably apply to the "cleric spell access" ability too?
So a gestalt:
Wizard 5 / Beguiler 5
Incantatrix 10 / Rainbow Servant 10
Would be a level 15 Wizard caster, level 11 Beguiler caster, and have cleric spells on both class lists? (obviously, would need to scribe into spellbook to cast as a wizard, but could scribe a scroll from the beguiler side then scribe into a spellbook?) That is taking the 6/10 spell progression, instead of the 10/10 text over table interpretation (based on the FAQ ruling, and the fact that the non-spellcasting levels grant abilities so it makes sense)
It says:
"A 10th level rainbow servant can learn and cast spells from the cleric list, even if they don't appear on the lists of any spellcasting class he has. Such spells are cast as divine spells if they don't appear on the sorcerer/wizard or bard spell lists ...."
If you had a beguiler / wizard / rainbow servant - would both beguiler and wizard gain the spells? It does say "any spellcasting class he has ..." which definitely implies the possibility of multiple spellcasting classes, and seems to grant it to both?
This "multiple spellcasting classes" point is also supported by the "Spells per Day/Spells Known" section - which, granted uses standard phrasing. It says:
"If a character had more than one spellcasting class in which she could cast 3rd-level arcane spells before she became a rainbow servant, the player must decide which class to assign each level of rainbow servant for the purpose of determining spells per day and spells known."
It says that the caster would need to be able to cast level 3 arcane spells from the class for it to qualify for the increased caster level, so that would probably apply to the "cleric spell access" ability too?
So a gestalt:
Wizard 5 / Beguiler 5
Incantatrix 10 / Rainbow Servant 10
Would be a level 15 Wizard caster, level 11 Beguiler caster, and have cleric spells on both class lists? (obviously, would need to scribe into spellbook to cast as a wizard, but could scribe a scroll from the beguiler side then scribe into a spellbook?) That is taking the 6/10 spell progression, instead of the 10/10 text over table interpretation (based on the FAQ ruling, and the fact that the non-spellcasting levels grant abilities so it makes sense)