magic bedroll

[Thac0 Redeye]

I found a Heward's Fortifying Bedroll in Complete Mage pg 132. This allows an arcane caster to regain spells after 1 hour sleep. Is there a version for divine casters? If so what book and page.
Thanks so much

[Venger]

I found a Heward's Fortifying Bedroll in Complete Mage pg 132. This allows an arcane caster to regain spells after 1 hour sleep. Is there a version for divine casters? If so what book and page.
Thanks so much

it actually works for everyone. they're just listing the benefits of using it. divine characters can enjoy it too.

[Jack_Simth]

I found a Heward's Fortifying Bedroll in Complete Mage pg 132. This allows an arcane caster to regain spells after 1 hour sleep. Is there a version for divine casters? If so what book and page.
Thanks so much

Divine casters don't require rest to prepare spells, but do them at a fixed time of day. Copied from here (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicOverview/divineSpells.htm#preparingDivineSpells):
A divine spellcaster chooses and prepares spells ahead of time, just as a wizard does. However, a divine spellcaster does not require a period of rest to prepare spells. Instead, the character chooses a particular part of the day to pray and receive spells. The time is usually associated with some daily event. If some event prevents a character from praying at the proper time, he must do so as soon as possible. If the character does not stop to pray for spells at the first opportunity, he must wait until the next day to prepare spells.

[Venger]

Divine casters don't require rest to prepare spells, but do them at a fixed time of day. Copied from here (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicOverview/divineSpells.htm#preparingDivineSpells):

that's true, but it's still a good item for natural healing and such.

[Jack_Simth]

that's true, but it's still a good item for natural healing and such.
Yes, but the focus of the question seemed to be on regaining spells.

[Crake]

Keep in mind that both arcane and divine casters must still adhere to the "recent casting limitations" meaning any spellslot used within the last 8 hours will not be regained when restoring spellslots. The fortifying bedroll does not overcome this limitation, so you cannot expend all your spellslots, rest for 1 hour, then regain all your spellslots, you must still wait 8 hours before regaining spell slots, but with the foritfying bedroll, only 1 hour of that time needs to be spent resting. Similarly for a divine caster, you cannot use all your spellslots just before your time of spell preparation, then regain all your spells right away.

[Ellrin]

Keep in mind that both arcane and divine casters must still adhere to the "recent casting limitations" meaning any spellslot used within the last 8 hours will not be regained when restoring spellslots. The fortifying bedroll does not overcome this limitation, so you cannot expend all your spellslots, rest for 1 hour, then regain all your spellslots, you must still wait 8 hours before regaining spell slots, but with the foritfying bedroll, only 1 hour of that time needs to be spent resting. Similarly for a divine caster, you cannot use all your spellslots just before your time of spell preparation, then regain all your spells right away.

I'm not doubting you, but could you point to where that passage is located in the books? I'd never noticed that rule before.

[Crake]

I'm not doubting you, but could you point to where that passage is located in the books? I'd never noticed that rule before.

In chapter 10, under preparing spells. The exact quote below from the SRD is here (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicOverview/arcaneSpells.htm#recentCastingLimitRestInterruptio ns) and here (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicOverview/divineSpells.htm#divineRecentCastingLimit)


Recent Casting Limit/Rest Interruptions

If a wizard has cast spells recently, the drain on her resources reduces her capacity to prepare new spells. When she prepares spells for the coming day, all the spells she has cast within the last 8 hours count against her daily limit.


Recent Casting Limit

As with wizards, any spells cast within the last 8 hours count against the sorcerer’s or bard’s daily limit.


Recent Casting Limit
As with arcane spells, at the time of preparation any spells cast within the previous 8 hours count against the number of spells that can be prepared.

[Fouredged Sword]

In chapter 10, under preparing spells. The exact quote below from the SRD is here (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicOverview/arcaneSpells.htm#recentCastingLimitRestInterruptio ns) and here (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicOverview/divineSpells.htm#divineRecentCastingLimit)

Yes, this is why divine casters REALLY should select dawn as the hour they take to refresh their spells. Having to avoid casting for 8 hours before sunset is a royal pain for evil casters.

[sleepyphoenixx]

Yes, this is why divine casters REALLY should select dawn as the hour they take to refresh their spells. Having to avoid casting for 8 hours before sunset is a royal pain for evil casters.

Depends on your party. And on your deity of choice, because at least the FR deities have fixed prayer times.
Since you have to worship a deity in FR and are far more likely to pick for either flavor or domain access instead of refresh time you'll just have to adjust your schedule to that.
It really makes no difference as long as you plan your day accordingly (and your party plays along with that).

If your party usually sleeps at night and does stuff over the day you want to refresh at dawn if possible.
If you commonly rest during the day and use the night for your dastardly deeds (maybe you're light sensitive or worship Shar, whatever) then praying at dusk is better for you.
If you're a worshipper of Lliira or a similar party god you probably want to prepare your spells at noon, because you spend all night partying and have just gone to bed when it's dawn.:smalltongue:

Noon is actually not that bad a time to refresh. You have plenty of daylight left but you can also do stuff at night if necessary and then rest & refresh without running into the recent casting limit.
Dusk-preparing clerics run into problems if they have to cast during the day. Dawn-preparing clerics run into problems if they have to cast during the night.
Noon-preparing clerics only run into problems if they have to cast at a time where civilized people are sleeping anyway.:smallbiggrin:

[Thac0 Redeye]

thanks for all the info. it really helps