SangoProduction
2017-04-06, 06:54 PM
OK. I'm branching off this thread from that one about knowstones where like 5 different conversations are happening at once.
So, it was brought up by Psyren that spells are cast from a character's spell list (or strictly raw only the class-wide spell list, since the rules [for the Wizard] don't say the character's spell list but just the class spell list...but common sense is usable here).
My thought: "OK, if it just grants a 'spell known', then that's got to be a defined term, which, according to the argument, is separate from 'spell list'." So, I went and checked out the Sorcerer Spells section.
OK. The reason why I said it was a rules dysfunction was that I missed the literal first sentence. So, now I do believe it's actually an explicit capability of the Sorcerer. He can cast spells from other classes, if he can get the spells to be known. Here's my evidence.
A sorcerer casts arcane spells which are drawn primarily from the sorcerer/wizard spell list.
These new spells can be common spells chosen from the sorcerer/wizard spell list, or they can be unusual spells that the sorcerer has gained some understanding of by study.
He can cast any spell he knows at any time, assuming he has not yet used up his spells per day for that spell level. He does not have to decide ahead of time which spells he’ll cast.
The Sorcerer has explicit permission to know spells not on the Sorcerer spell list. But regardless of being allowed to pick it up by level up or not (which is a reasonable restriction), he casts "any spell he knows." He does not cast directly from the spell list. So yeah, so long as he knows the spell, he can cast it.
So, it was brought up by Psyren that spells are cast from a character's spell list (or strictly raw only the class-wide spell list, since the rules [for the Wizard] don't say the character's spell list but just the class spell list...but common sense is usable here).
My thought: "OK, if it just grants a 'spell known', then that's got to be a defined term, which, according to the argument, is separate from 'spell list'." So, I went and checked out the Sorcerer Spells section.
OK. The reason why I said it was a rules dysfunction was that I missed the literal first sentence. So, now I do believe it's actually an explicit capability of the Sorcerer. He can cast spells from other classes, if he can get the spells to be known. Here's my evidence.
A sorcerer casts arcane spells which are drawn primarily from the sorcerer/wizard spell list.
These new spells can be common spells chosen from the sorcerer/wizard spell list, or they can be unusual spells that the sorcerer has gained some understanding of by study.
He can cast any spell he knows at any time, assuming he has not yet used up his spells per day for that spell level. He does not have to decide ahead of time which spells he’ll cast.
The Sorcerer has explicit permission to know spells not on the Sorcerer spell list. But regardless of being allowed to pick it up by level up or not (which is a reasonable restriction), he casts "any spell he knows." He does not cast directly from the spell list. So yeah, so long as he knows the spell, he can cast it.