Most powerful Bear in 3.5?

[Tainted_Scholar]

Alrighty, time for an odd question. What is the most powerful bear in D&D 3.5?

The strongest bear I can find is the Dire Polar Bear from Frostburn.

[Venger]

since bears, like all animals, are just walls of numbers, dire polar bear is indeed your best bet. are you assembling forms for a master transmogrifist or something?

[Tainted_Scholar]

are you assembling forms for a master transmogrifist or something?

Backstory actually. My character had a run in with a bear, so I wanted to find the most dangerous bear in D&D.

Also I have a thing for bears.

[logic_error]

Backstory actually. My character had a run in with a bear, so I wanted to find the most dangerous bear in D&D.

Also I have a thing for bears.


Are you Leo DiCaprio?

[AmberVael]

You could drop on a template or two to make it more special. Monster of Legend from MMII, for instance.

[eggynack]

Dire polar bear is probably the best, being huge and all. The legendary bear from MM II is pretty good too though. Loses the size and some strength, but picks up some HD and has legendary in the name.

[Aleolus]

Why not a Legendary Dire Polar Bear?

[Venger]

Why not a Legendary Dire Polar Bear?

legendary is not a template that can be applied to other animals. it's just a handful of specific creatures.

[DrMotives]

Kaiju brown bear would almost be the bears from Scott Westerfield's Leviathan trilogy. You know, if you outfit them with enormous howdahs so they were Colossal bear landships.

[Thurbane]

legendary is not a template that can be applied to other animals. it's just a handful of specific creatures.

Perhaps he was thinking of Monster of Legend.

...before templates, Dire Polar Bear seems to be the toughest (CR 11).

A fully advanced (45 HD) gargantuan dire polar bear would be pretty scary.

[Morcleon]

Perhaps he was thinking of Monster of Legend.

...before templates, Dire Polcar Bear seems to be the toughest (CR 11).

A fully advanced (45 HD) gargantuan dire bear would be pretty scary.

Don't forget to tack on the Paragon and Pseudonatural templates for some extra eldritch bear-ness. :smallbiggrin:

[Vaz]

Nobody said Druid 20 yet?

[Vizzerdrix]

I remember seeing a bear that hd iron bits fused with it. I dont remember where, or its stats though. Their is also the bear people from frostburn.

[Venger]

I remember seeing a bear that hd iron bits fused with it. I dont remember where, or its stats though. Their is also the bear people from frostburn.

those are the same monster, it's called an urskan. the bits aren't fused, they just make armor, like in "golden compass"

[noob]

Druid 20 is not a bear it is a bear swarm riding a giant bear summoning bears because you can not have all the bear of a druid in only one bear.

[Vizzerdrix]

those are the same monster, it's called an urskan. the bits aren't fused, they just make armor, like in "golden compass"

No, the one Im thinking of isnt white, and looks fused with the metal bits.

FOUND IT! Ironclad mauler. Mm3

[Thurbane]

There's a lot of bear-like monsters in 3.X.

I mean, you cold throw in Bharrai the Great Bear; but I'm not sure how exactly one would come up with a convincing back-story for a low level character how he had a dust-up with a CR28 NG Celestial Paragon :smalltongue:

[ben-zayb]

An Aleax of a Pseudonatural, Paragon, Phrenic, Half-Celestial, Half-Fiend, Half-Fey, Half-Dragon, Horrid, Magebred, Advanced Legendary Bear of Legend?

Pretty sure this is just the tip of the iceberg, though

[Venger]

throw multiheaded on the pile (http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/gravityfalls/images/a/ac/S1e6_multibear.png/revision/latest?cb=20120818041335)

[The Glyphstone]

An Aleax of a Pseudonatural, Paragon, Phrenic, Half-Celestial, Half-Fiend, Half-Fey, Half-Dragon, Horrid, Magebred, Advanced Legendary Bear of Legend?

Pretty sure this is just the tip of the icebearg, though

Fixed that for you.

[Inevitability]

Ursinals are CR 10 celestial bear-people that get 12th-level wizard casting in addition to 10 outsider HD, various immunities, +4 to +8 bonuses to every ability score, a bunch of SLAs, Lay on Hands, natural weapons (with improved grab) and Uncanny Dodge.

[noob]

That do not counts as a bear: it is made of souls of sentient creatures.
You need to find a guardinal made of souls of bears.

[Inevitability]

That do not counts as a bear: it is made of souls of sentient creatures.
You need to find a guardinal made of souls of bears.

Probability dictates that somewhere, an ursinal composed entirely of the souls of Awakened NG bears exists. :smalltongue:

[ShurikVch]

Spirit of the Land (Huge Fey, 20 HD CR 23, Monster Manual II) looks pretty bear-like to me:

http://archive.wizards.com/dnd/images/mm2_gallery/88268_620_115.jpg

Also, if you aren't against the idea of sentient and Good bear, then how about the avatar of Balador (http://the-guildhall.net/dndwiki/index.php?title=Balador)?

[Flickerdart]

There's a Titanic template that scales animals up to Gargantuan, with various other benefits.

[Inevitability]

A (quasi)lycanthropic version of any of the animals already listed could be of any power level, depending on its class levels.

[Prime32]

There's a few templates out there based on selective breeding of animals, which increase their CR by +1 without changing its type. Eberron has the Magebred template for all animals, and the Horrid template for dire animals. Monster Manual 2 also has the warbeast template for Medium and larger animals and vermin.

Meaning a fully-advanced horrid magebred warbeast dire bear paragon would come out at CR 33. A fully-advanced magebred warbeast legendary bear paragon is CR 32.

[noob]

Take a bear awaken him then make him gain 21 levels in a caster class then he can make an infinitely negative dc epic spell and thus gain an infinity of levels and go infinitely in the past then with those levels he can gain immortality then he is very angry that you sent it an eternity before the creation of the universe and then he go to fight you because he have been pissed of by all that waiting.
If you want use templates and class levels there is no limits at all.

[Deeds]

Best thread April 2017.

So you had a run in with a templated bear at CR (12d12 * d100.) Assuming even a shred of your existence is left, do you seek vengeance against this bear or do you just have really cool scars or something?

[Morcleon]

Best thread April 2017.

So you had a run in with a templated bear at CR (12d12 * d100.) Assuming even a shred of your existence is left, do you seek vengeance against this bear or do you just have really cool scars or something?

You could build an entire campaign around a group of adventurers wronged by this ultra-bear. :smallbiggrin:

[schreier]

Ursoi from Dragonlance, if you include those books (only the main book was official, the others are 3rd party) - player race with +10 to strength, add feral template for some pounce :)

[Thurbane]

Maybe it was just Sir Bearington (https://www.reddit.com/r/DnDGreentext/comments/2dpqop/the_original_story_of_sir_bearington/) and the PC rolled really high on his Spot/Sense Motive check. Now no one believes that it was a bear that attacked him.

[didn't want to link 1d4 Chan]

[Yael]

A fully advanced (45 HD) gargantuan dire polar bear would be pretty scary.

There's even one in Vindictus, for reference.https://i.ytimg.com/vi/uYzFRNG4ofE/maxresdefault.jpg

[Flickerdart]

You could build an entire campaign around a group of adventurers wronged by this ultra-bear. :smallbiggrin:
A creature like that would "wrong" entire planes.

[CIDE]

A creature like that would "wrong" entire planes.


That damn darn bear.

[Tainted_Scholar]

Assuming even a shred of your existence is left, do you seek vengeance against this bear or do you just have really cool scars or something?

I was initially just planning on getting a few scars and a crippling fear of nature from the encounter. But it would be pretty amusing if the party fought it at a higher level.

[daremetoidareyo]

Awaken bear. Take a panoply of classes to get negative xp modifiers. Just make sure you take classes with class features that grant permanent bonii.

[Flickerdart]

bonii.
If you are trying to use a Latin plural, that should be boni (-us to -i suffix). Only one i.

[daremetoidareyo]

If you are trying to use a Latin plural, that should be boni (-us to -i suffix). Only one i.

It's the plural of a plural...


Believe it?

[Ezekiul]

Eltab is a bearlike demon lord that's stated out in Champions of Ruin at CR 28. He is only a large creature though.

[Inevitability]

Eltab is a bearlike demon lord that's stated out in Champions of Ruin at CR 28. He is only a large creature though.

To be honest, I wouldn't call this (https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/forgottenrealms/images/2/29/Eltab.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100401161310) bearlike.

[Vaz]

Maybe it was just Sir Bearington (https://www.reddit.com/r/DnDGreentext/comments/2dpqop/the_original_story_of_sir_bearington/) and the PC rolled really high on his Spot/Sense Motive check. Now no one believes that it was a bear that attacked him.

[didn't want to link 1d4 Chan]

Reference game strong.

[Thurbane]

Eltab is a bearlike demon lord that's stated out in Champions of Ruin at CR 28. He is only a large creature though.

Now i really want to see a fight between Eltab and Bharrai: they're both CR 28 - to be honest, though, Bharrai has 18th level Wizard casting, so I don't think it would be much of a fight.