Edd
2017-04-15, 11:52 PM
Hi guys! I am reposting this here looking for some general opinions and help regarding a pbp character build I am working on. Thanks for your time and consideration ! cheers, Edd the Troll
I was thinking baldurghast might be a bloodrager1 instead of barbarian1 before going magus. also have batted around an idea of maybe only taking a couple levels of magus instead of doing a 19/20 progression caster.
The original idea was to take a level in bloodrager or barbarian (beast totem-Lion variant) for pounce and good HD and thematics with origin story then go into school for magus and specialize (slot) defensive spells like mirror image, blur, blink, but not invisibility. Use the feat Call Out to taunt enemies with intimidate. 1BBN(Lion)/8Magus/prestige caster - transmute & abjur themed.
Uses: Mithral Chain Shirt (twilight, nimble, thistle down - as needed) may eventually use greater mage armor or pfsrd equal at high level
Scimitar and buckler, dancing weapon magus ability at higher level and wield a defending weapon
INT,CON,STR
How would you be getting pounce? I may misunderstand, but I'm unaware of a way to get pounce before about 10th level.
It looks a lot like my brother's old 3.5 character builds. In my experience, Paizo has done a really good job making straight class builds more attractive. Just my 2c.
oh wow Beast Totem ACF is 3.5... need level 10 or 12 for pounce now. so maybe
Barbarian 12 / Magus 2 / Fighter 4
Bloodrager 11 /
Tiger Pounce, Furious Focus, reckless abandon
mount, overrun, furious/viscious weapon, rhino hide? lol
Trick Riding Cavalier Risky Striker?
Human Sword Order Cavalier Spirited Charge?
not sure i like pathfinder's answers.
lol
i guess summoner(1), magus (4) bladed dash spell and druid(6) have early game pounce. but aren't as tanky or thematic
Barbarian 2 / Druid 6 (6/8 BAB) pounce
Barbarian 5 / Druid 6 / Brawler 2 (11/13 BAB) Martial Flexibility (move)
Barbarian 5 / Druid 6 / Brawler 6 (15/17 BAB) Martial Flexibility (swift)
Barbarian 6 / Druid 8 / Brawler 6 (18/20 BAB) Martial Flexibility (swift)
...very MAD; CON, WIS, CHA, STR, (toss INT; weak skills)
Barbarian 1 / Summoner (synthesist) 1 / Magus 2 (3/4 BAB) +2 STR MOD, pounce
Barbarian 1 / Summoner (synthesist) 8 / Magus 2 (8/11 BAB) +8 STR MOD (Large)
Barbarian 1 / Summoner (synthesist) 13 / Magus 2 (12/16 BAB) +12 STR MOD (Huge)
Barbarian 5 / Summoner (synthesist) 13 / Magus 2 (16/20 BAB) +12 STR MOD (Huge) Improved Uncanny Dodg
...very MAD; middling STR & CON. lots of CHA, diplomacy, intimidate (Call Out/Taunt); overall a very versatile character
Bloodrager 2 / Magus 5 / Synthesist 13 (14/20 BAB)
...very MAD but uses eidolon physical sats ; CHA, INT, (toss WIS; weak saves)
edit: I'm pretty sure i want to go with Bladed Dash. Here are my options as I see them:
CON, STR, INT, CHA not as good at taunting (intim)/ face
low dex and wis = bad saves, should I consider going dex instead of strength? also helps with rays and bows, but i dont think their is a whirling frenzy option (dex rage) in Pathfinder.
Barbarian 1 / Brawler 2 / Magus 7 Mirror Image & Bladed Dash (pseudo charge spell) level 3 spells, uncanny dodge
Barbarian 2 / Brawler 6 / Magus 7 Light Armor Build ,Martial Flexibility (swift)
Barbarian 5 / Rogue 2 / Brawler 6 / Magus 7 Light Armor Build, evasion (17/20 BAB)
Brawler 1/ Magus 10 Medium armor, Martial Training, Fighter Training, level 4 spells, (8/11 BAB)
Brawler 6/ Magus 10 Martial Flexibility (swift) Treated as level 16 Fighter for feat qualification (13/16 BAB)
Brawler 10 / Magus 10 Martial Flexibility (free) Treated as level 20 Fighter for feat qualification (17/20 BAB)
( Consider Dex Build since plenty of feats and not rage dependent)
Barbarian 1 / Magus 4 Mirror Image & Bladed Dash (pseudo charge spell)
Barbarian 2 / Brawler 1 / Magus 8 Medium armor (9/11 BAB)
Barbarian 2 / Brawler 1 / Magus 13 Heavy Armor & Greater Bladed Dash, level 5 spells (12/16 BAB)
Barbarian 5 / Brawler 2 / Magus 13 Heavy Armor & Greater Bladed Dash (16/20 BAB) Improved Uncanny Dodge
Bloodrager 1 / Magus 4 Mirror Image & Bladed Dash (pseudo charge spell)
Bloodrager 2 / Brawler 1 / Magus 8 Medium armor (9/11 BAB)
Bloodrager 2 / Brawler 1 / Magus 13 Heavy Armor & Greater Bladed Dash, level 5 spells (12/16 BAB)
Bloodrager 6 / Brawler 1 / Magus 13 Heavy Armor & Greater Bladed Dash (16/20 BAB) Bloodline Feat
I think I am getting close.
would love to hear some input : )
edit: setting: ironfang invasion PFSRD. DM prefers versatile medium OP characters, prefer no mount. Human
character background; tribesman of the planes in a mostly bloodrager society where item crafting/ magic using is considered mystic, primal, and revered. Wolfgar Bornegar is an influence (spelling?)
character's father's build; Brawler 2 / Bloodrager 14 with/ craft wondrous item, Destined (Prowler at world's End Bloodline) i.e. Pounce @ lv.13, CHA build, Intimidate (Taunt) via Call Out feat & high Diplomacy Skill (Clan Chieftain)
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Character
Class
Combat Role
Wombat Role
n0ble
Rask (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1147672)
Slayer (Vanguard)
(M) Meat - Melee Frontliner
is this a grappler, controller, or tank build?
Edd
Baldurghast Turing (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1177996)
Magus w/ pounce (BBN)
(M) Meat -Tank/ (S) Striker - Gish
Removal, Radar
HappyMerecat
Tor (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=382144)
Half Orc Ranger (Beastmaster)
(S) Striker - Melee, Archer
Skill Monkey, Observer(scout), Negotiator(face)
Morbis Meh
Trogdor (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1175708)
Lizardman (Alchemist)
Lizardman
Burninator
Imbasel
Zoresk Rin (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21902607&postcount=41)
Kineticist (Water)
(S) Striker - Glass Cannon
Observer, Removal
The Mad Hatter
Zach (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1176727)
Scrollmaster Wizard
(S) Striker - The Glass Evoker
Library
Casual Viking
Radomir (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1175740)
Kitsune Witch
(A) Arcanist - Debuff/Mind
Sneak, animal face, scout
3SecondCultist
Aster Wintarius (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1173874)
Shaman (Speaker for the Past)
(A) Arcanist - Control / Debuff God
Library, Radar, Sneak
Name_Here
O'Brian (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1175133)
Wizard
(A) Arcanist - The Goddamn Batman
Library
Kvard51
Benaiah Black (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1174521)
Cleric of Erastil
(A) Arcanist - Buff God
Healer, Radar, Sneak
Ilorin Lorati
Nyn Dawnhart (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1176079)
Halfling Oracle (Spirit Guide)
(A) Arcanist - Buff God
FACE, Negotiator, Library, Healer
Farmerbink
Edgar Cooke "Smokey" (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1175418)
Bard (Flame Dancing)
(A) Arcanist - Buff God
Face, Negotiator, some skill
Will update
as understood by Edd the Troll:
ICONIC D&D ROLES
SKILL MONKEY,
BATMAN,
MEAT/PRIMARY MELEE (optional),
HEALBOT (optional)
COMBAT ROLES inspired by Treantmonk's interpretation
DEFENDER (BIG STUPID FIGHTER) "The Target"
(a summoned critter, Barbarian, Fighter, Knight)
-Grappler
-Controller
-Tank
STRIKER (GLASS CANNON) "The Child" Deals HP damage to BBEG
(Skirmisher, Shock Trooper, Gish, Archer, Blaster Caster)
-Direct Damage
ARCANIST [Battlefield Controller] Solid Fog, Tentacles, Cloudkill, Roots, Wall of Stone
ARCANIST [Party Buffer] polymorph, haste, displacement, enlarge
ARCANIST [Debuffer] glitterdust, slow, bestow curse
[Removal] Sleep, Maze, Hideous Laughter
ROLES inspired by Treantmonk's interpretation
SOCIAL / NEGOTIATOR "The Fop" (Guy that talks a lot) batman cannot do this
SNEAK "The Corpse" (Split Party, Disable Device, Get Caught Alone) batman can do this instead with the right spells
HEALBOT "The Gimp" (Wastes time healing or fixes condition statuses hopefully, this should be an out of combat role)
BATMAN (types I, II, and III) "Everythig Else" (God, Primary Caster, Tier Zero)
Veekie OOC Clarified Roles
Radar
Sneak
Observer
Library
Negotiator
Transporter
Removal
(no healer due to UMD/ Belt)
I was thinking baldurghast might be a bloodrager1 instead of barbarian1 before going magus. also have batted around an idea of maybe only taking a couple levels of magus instead of doing a 19/20 progression caster.
The original idea was to take a level in bloodrager or barbarian (beast totem-Lion variant) for pounce and good HD and thematics with origin story then go into school for magus and specialize (slot) defensive spells like mirror image, blur, blink, but not invisibility. Use the feat Call Out to taunt enemies with intimidate. 1BBN(Lion)/8Magus/prestige caster - transmute & abjur themed.
Uses: Mithral Chain Shirt (twilight, nimble, thistle down - as needed) may eventually use greater mage armor or pfsrd equal at high level
Scimitar and buckler, dancing weapon magus ability at higher level and wield a defending weapon
INT,CON,STR
How would you be getting pounce? I may misunderstand, but I'm unaware of a way to get pounce before about 10th level.
It looks a lot like my brother's old 3.5 character builds. In my experience, Paizo has done a really good job making straight class builds more attractive. Just my 2c.
oh wow Beast Totem ACF is 3.5... need level 10 or 12 for pounce now. so maybe
Barbarian 12 / Magus 2 / Fighter 4
Bloodrager 11 /
Tiger Pounce, Furious Focus, reckless abandon
mount, overrun, furious/viscious weapon, rhino hide? lol
Trick Riding Cavalier Risky Striker?
Human Sword Order Cavalier Spirited Charge?
not sure i like pathfinder's answers.
lol
i guess summoner(1), magus (4) bladed dash spell and druid(6) have early game pounce. but aren't as tanky or thematic
Barbarian 2 / Druid 6 (6/8 BAB) pounce
Barbarian 5 / Druid 6 / Brawler 2 (11/13 BAB) Martial Flexibility (move)
Barbarian 5 / Druid 6 / Brawler 6 (15/17 BAB) Martial Flexibility (swift)
Barbarian 6 / Druid 8 / Brawler 6 (18/20 BAB) Martial Flexibility (swift)
...very MAD; CON, WIS, CHA, STR, (toss INT; weak skills)
Barbarian 1 / Summoner (synthesist) 1 / Magus 2 (3/4 BAB) +2 STR MOD, pounce
Barbarian 1 / Summoner (synthesist) 8 / Magus 2 (8/11 BAB) +8 STR MOD (Large)
Barbarian 1 / Summoner (synthesist) 13 / Magus 2 (12/16 BAB) +12 STR MOD (Huge)
Barbarian 5 / Summoner (synthesist) 13 / Magus 2 (16/20 BAB) +12 STR MOD (Huge) Improved Uncanny Dodg
...very MAD; middling STR & CON. lots of CHA, diplomacy, intimidate (Call Out/Taunt); overall a very versatile character
Bloodrager 2 / Magus 5 / Synthesist 13 (14/20 BAB)
...very MAD but uses eidolon physical sats ; CHA, INT, (toss WIS; weak saves)
edit: I'm pretty sure i want to go with Bladed Dash. Here are my options as I see them:
CON, STR, INT, CHA not as good at taunting (intim)/ face
low dex and wis = bad saves, should I consider going dex instead of strength? also helps with rays and bows, but i dont think their is a whirling frenzy option (dex rage) in Pathfinder.
Barbarian 1 / Brawler 2 / Magus 7 Mirror Image & Bladed Dash (pseudo charge spell) level 3 spells, uncanny dodge
Barbarian 2 / Brawler 6 / Magus 7 Light Armor Build ,Martial Flexibility (swift)
Barbarian 5 / Rogue 2 / Brawler 6 / Magus 7 Light Armor Build, evasion (17/20 BAB)
Brawler 1/ Magus 10 Medium armor, Martial Training, Fighter Training, level 4 spells, (8/11 BAB)
Brawler 6/ Magus 10 Martial Flexibility (swift) Treated as level 16 Fighter for feat qualification (13/16 BAB)
Brawler 10 / Magus 10 Martial Flexibility (free) Treated as level 20 Fighter for feat qualification (17/20 BAB)
( Consider Dex Build since plenty of feats and not rage dependent)
Barbarian 1 / Magus 4 Mirror Image & Bladed Dash (pseudo charge spell)
Barbarian 2 / Brawler 1 / Magus 8 Medium armor (9/11 BAB)
Barbarian 2 / Brawler 1 / Magus 13 Heavy Armor & Greater Bladed Dash, level 5 spells (12/16 BAB)
Barbarian 5 / Brawler 2 / Magus 13 Heavy Armor & Greater Bladed Dash (16/20 BAB) Improved Uncanny Dodge
Bloodrager 1 / Magus 4 Mirror Image & Bladed Dash (pseudo charge spell)
Bloodrager 2 / Brawler 1 / Magus 8 Medium armor (9/11 BAB)
Bloodrager 2 / Brawler 1 / Magus 13 Heavy Armor & Greater Bladed Dash, level 5 spells (12/16 BAB)
Bloodrager 6 / Brawler 1 / Magus 13 Heavy Armor & Greater Bladed Dash (16/20 BAB) Bloodline Feat
I think I am getting close.
would love to hear some input : )
edit: setting: ironfang invasion PFSRD. DM prefers versatile medium OP characters, prefer no mount. Human
character background; tribesman of the planes in a mostly bloodrager society where item crafting/ magic using is considered mystic, primal, and revered. Wolfgar Bornegar is an influence (spelling?)
character's father's build; Brawler 2 / Bloodrager 14 with/ craft wondrous item, Destined (Prowler at world's End Bloodline) i.e. Pounce @ lv.13, CHA build, Intimidate (Taunt) via Call Out feat & high Diplomacy Skill (Clan Chieftain)
Player Submissions
Player
Character
Class
Combat Role
Wombat Role
n0ble
Rask (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1147672)
Slayer (Vanguard)
(M) Meat - Melee Frontliner
is this a grappler, controller, or tank build?
Edd
Baldurghast Turing (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1177996)
Magus w/ pounce (BBN)
(M) Meat -Tank/ (S) Striker - Gish
Removal, Radar
HappyMerecat
Tor (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=382144)
Half Orc Ranger (Beastmaster)
(S) Striker - Melee, Archer
Skill Monkey, Observer(scout), Negotiator(face)
Morbis Meh
Trogdor (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1175708)
Lizardman (Alchemist)
Lizardman
Burninator
Imbasel
Zoresk Rin (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21902607&postcount=41)
Kineticist (Water)
(S) Striker - Glass Cannon
Observer, Removal
The Mad Hatter
Zach (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1176727)
Scrollmaster Wizard
(S) Striker - The Glass Evoker
Library
Casual Viking
Radomir (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1175740)
Kitsune Witch
(A) Arcanist - Debuff/Mind
Sneak, animal face, scout
3SecondCultist
Aster Wintarius (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1173874)
Shaman (Speaker for the Past)
(A) Arcanist - Control / Debuff God
Library, Radar, Sneak
Name_Here
O'Brian (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1175133)
Wizard
(A) Arcanist - The Goddamn Batman
Library
Kvard51
Benaiah Black (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1174521)
Cleric of Erastil
(A) Arcanist - Buff God
Healer, Radar, Sneak
Ilorin Lorati
Nyn Dawnhart (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1176079)
Halfling Oracle (Spirit Guide)
(A) Arcanist - Buff God
FACE, Negotiator, Library, Healer
Farmerbink
Edgar Cooke "Smokey" (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1175418)
Bard (Flame Dancing)
(A) Arcanist - Buff God
Face, Negotiator, some skill
Will update
as understood by Edd the Troll:
ICONIC D&D ROLES
SKILL MONKEY,
BATMAN,
MEAT/PRIMARY MELEE (optional),
HEALBOT (optional)
COMBAT ROLES inspired by Treantmonk's interpretation
DEFENDER (BIG STUPID FIGHTER) "The Target"
(a summoned critter, Barbarian, Fighter, Knight)
-Grappler
-Controller
-Tank
STRIKER (GLASS CANNON) "The Child" Deals HP damage to BBEG
(Skirmisher, Shock Trooper, Gish, Archer, Blaster Caster)
-Direct Damage
ARCANIST [Battlefield Controller] Solid Fog, Tentacles, Cloudkill, Roots, Wall of Stone
ARCANIST [Party Buffer] polymorph, haste, displacement, enlarge
ARCANIST [Debuffer] glitterdust, slow, bestow curse
[Removal] Sleep, Maze, Hideous Laughter
ROLES inspired by Treantmonk's interpretation
SOCIAL / NEGOTIATOR "The Fop" (Guy that talks a lot) batman cannot do this
SNEAK "The Corpse" (Split Party, Disable Device, Get Caught Alone) batman can do this instead with the right spells
HEALBOT "The Gimp" (Wastes time healing or fixes condition statuses hopefully, this should be an out of combat role)
BATMAN (types I, II, and III) "Everythig Else" (God, Primary Caster, Tier Zero)
Veekie OOC Clarified Roles
Radar
Sneak
Observer
Library
Negotiator
Transporter
Removal
(no healer due to UMD/ Belt)