... Edit 2: Factorum to Renegade Mastermind?

[MaxMAnAtArms]

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Edit:
As it seems nothing got allot of attention and the few people who looked at tags. I wanted to be an artificer that went into renegade mastermind but i felt dumb trying to read and understand the artififcer. So i heard about the factorium and the gnome razor blades and itsatou strike(sp) and was seeing if someone would be able to help me woth a medium size creature who was raised by gnomes so i can get as a martial and not have to use a feat to get then due to being exotic.

Unable to use pathfinder.

I perfer not to spell/feat into gaining height to become a medium size creature.

Edit 2:
After Looking into this thread some someone said something that tickled my idea some. (puns are welcomed due to phrasing).
What if I went Factorium into Renegade Mastermaker?
Does the Factorium meet the needs to become one? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[Ellrin]

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A salient point. I think I'll bring it up with my DM next session.

[Esprit15]

Truly, you have brought new insight into this issue. I'll have to talk to my own group and find out what their opinions are.

[Jowgen]

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PkMn TRAINER RED wants to battle! (https://youtu.be/KKFl9QI2-6s?t=15)

[xkroku]

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I think you'll be better off with Ur-Priest/Beholder Mage combo. It will complete your task in no time!

[Swaoeaeieu]

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i mean you can try, but good luck finding a DM who will allow it.

[Pleh]

Judging by the tags on your thread: artificer, cheese, gnome, renegade mastermaker.

I would point you to the Renegade Mastermaker Handbook (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php).

Artificer cheese shouldn't be in short supply. They're T1.

[90,000]

You'd have to check with your DM first and even then the chances are practically nil, I'm afraid.

Unless he's far more liberal than me, I mean.

There's no reason you couldn't bring it up, I suppose.

[ben-zayb]

This seems like the kind of topic that can't really be addressed by RAW and is best left to your DM.

Also: I'd caution against that line of discussion, OP. Topics like this really invite off-tangent discussions that resulted before in plenty of threads getting locked.

[DreganHiregard]

We'll need more info before we can help you out, which books are being allowed? Dragonmagazines? And what about Pathfinder and 3PP stuff?

[khadgar567]

Well this treat eventualy get locked but its humarous that we reply to basicly an empty post and try to make head or tails out of it

[emeraldstreak]

No. Not "..."

Just ".."

[flappeercraft]

Good point. Just might work.....

What is this thread about? It only shows "...." for me

[Tohsaka Rin]

No. Not "..."

Just ".."

Oh come on, we all know that "." is MUCH more optimized.

[emeraldstreak]

Oh come on, we all know that "." is MUCH more optimized.

Dots meant to be accented with 'pun.'

[Tohsaka Rin]

Dots meant to be accented with 'pun.'

No, that's ".--. ..- -. / .--. ..- -."

[Inevitability]

Your DM is obviously trying to solve an OOC issue IC. That's bad. Talk to them, make it clear that you're not willing to endure more of this, and if all else fails leave the group.

No gaming is better than bad gaming.

[Uncle Pine]

Well, according to ELH (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/epic/monsters/dragonAdvanced.htm), a Dragonwrought Kobold that reached the great wyrm stage (Venerable) at 1st level becomes Colossal at 4th level. This is not all: a dragon also gets other goodies for each HD it gains beyond the great wyrm stage, most notably +1 natural armor/HD, +2 Str and +2 Con/virtual age category and +2 Int, +2 Wis and +2 Cha/2 age categories. Also, since it's stated that when a dragon becomes Colossal its flight speed increases by +50 ft. and its maneuverability becomes clumsy [...], if [a kobold has] the Improved Dragon Wings (either at 1st level with a flaw or at 3rd level, remember that a Dragon automatically qualifies for every feat that requires the Dragonblood subtype), at 4th level it'll have a flight speed of 80 ft. (clumsy).

The above, coupled with a couple of enhanced psionic tattoos (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/psm/20031225a) (don't forget to add mental taps, capacitors and transducers), a stack of manifesting +1 shurikens and a number of crafted contingent Celerities, greater equal to your HD should get you covered.

[Yael]

Well, according to ELH (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/epic/monsters/dragonAdvanced.htm), a Dragonwrought Kobold that reached the great wyrm stage (Venerable) at 1st level becomes Colossal at 4th level. This is not all: a dragon also gets other goodies for each HD it gains beyond the great wyrm stage, most notably +1 natural armor/HD, +2 Str and +2 Con/virtual age category and +2 Int, +2 Wis and +2 Cha/2 age categories. Also, since it's stated that when a dragon becomes Colossal its flight speed increases by +50 ft. and its maneuverability becomes clumsy [...], if [a kobold has] the Improved Dragon Wings (either at 1st level with a flaw or at 3rd level, remember that a Dragon automatically qualifies for every feat that requires the Dragonblood subtype), at 4th level it'll have a flight speed of 80 ft. (clumsy).

The above, coupled with a couple of enhanced psionic tattoos (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/psm/20031225a) (don't forget to add mental taps, capacitors and transducers), a stack of manifesting +1 shurikens and a number of crafted contingent Celerities, greater equal to your HD should get you covered.

By the Light!

[Grand Arbiter]

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Quite the stirring dissertation my good sir, truly 'tis a marvelous composure.

However, it appears that you forgot to carry the two, leading you to take the wrong turn at Albuquerque.

[Jowgen]

We'll need more info before we can help you out, which books are being allowed? Dragonmagazines? And what about Pathfinder and 3PP stuff?

This. And more specifically, if the variant classes from Dragon 310 are in play, and the DM lets Martial Monk work for getting around fighter feat prerequesites, you might be able to tag on Words of Creation to double your Conjuration [Creation] spell durations.

[Vogie]

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In Morse code, this is "Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee"

So the message is basically what she said.

[Gruftzwerg]

"joined April 2017"..^^

a fresh new account owner is sad about optimization. Did someone got an unbalanced session last night with different grades of optimization between the characters or what is this about?

I don't know, but he has my attention^^

[CIDE]

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[Gruftzwerg]

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[NOhara24]

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I've only had one character invoke Pazuzu - it didn't end well.

[daremetoidareyo]

You're looking for the stoneblessed class. Three levels to become an honorary gnome

[Gildedragon]

..............
As it seems nothing got allot of attention and the few people who looked at tags. I wanted to be an artificer that went into renegade mastermind but i felt dumb trying to read and understand the artififcer. So i heard about the factorium and the gnome razor blades and itsatou strike(sp) and was seeing if someone would be able to help me woth a medium size creature who was raised by gnomes so i can get as a martial and not have to use a feat to get then due to being exotic
ask your DM if you can port over opalescent white pyramid iounstones from pathfinder
Cracked ones are mighty helpful with this sort of predicament.
Or get the wizard to cast Master's Touch on you.

[MaxMAnAtArms]

My DM prefers to not bring pathfinder stuff over into his games. Classes items etc he prefers 3.5 and the extra books and such are fine.

[ATHATH]

Seconding Stoneblessed.

[icefractal]

Is three levels really a good trade-off for a feat though? It's easy to get into, but it doesn't give you much besides the Con bonus.

[Malimar]

Judging by the tags on your thread: artificer, cheese, gnome, renegade mastermaker.

I would point you to the Renegade Mastermaker Handbook (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php).

Artificer cheese shouldn't be in short supply. They're T1.

I was so excited that somebody knew about my Renegade Mastermaker handbook, and then the link was broken. Here's a link that should work properly (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?482653-Being-a-Steampunk-Magitek-Cyborg-A-Renegade-Mastermaker-Handbook).

That said, does Factotum have the Caster Level requirement to qualify for Craft Wondrous Items and Craft Magic Arms and Armor? I can never remember what Factotum does or does not qualify for. Factotum doesn't exactly have "spellcasting", instead having spell-like abilities (for some unfathomable reason), so the RM spellcasting advancement probably wouldn't advance Factotum casting even if you can get in. An interesting question (even if you've abandoned the RM idea in favor of a completely different build).

[daremetoidareyo]

Why not be a gnome and just take hidden talent/expansion?

[MaxMAnAtArms]

That said, does Factotum have the Caster Level requirement to qualify for Craft Wondrous Items and Craft Magic Arms and Armor? I can never remember what Factotum does or does not qualify for. Factotum doesn't exactly have "spellcasting", instead having spell-like abilities (for some unfathomable reason), so the RM spellcasting advancement probably wouldn't advance Factotum casting even if you can get in. An interesting question (even if you've abandoned the RM idea in favor of a completely different build).


If Factotum still works i would love the idea of it into Renegde mastermaker. :D

[Bad Wolf]

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Nah, text trumps table.

[Pleh]

Oh? You're right. I'm sorry I didn't double check my links after posting. :(

[90,000]

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Edit:
As it seems nothing got allot of attention and the few people who looked at tags.

Are you seriously trying to flip this around on us?

[MaxMAnAtArms]

Are you seriously trying to flip this around on us?

Not at all.Just a noobie being a noobie. lol. Its one of those in detail with explanations and i get a few "here try this" and with nothing it blows up. insert rage and etc joke where ever. And I do thank those who are and did help. :)