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Nosta
2017-04-29, 09:42 PM
so For a while now I've been Trying to Create a Character For a very High power Game Hosted By an old Friend.

Said Friend is allowing All Material 3.5 and Dragon magazine material
Said Friend Is Letting Each play combination of Race and Template Up to La +8 For Free.
Said Friend Is Giving us an extra 6d6 stat die to roll and place in way amongst Are stats

Yes I know this seems Ridculous and I agree But my friend as Been wanting to do this campaign for a while now.

so so far my Build is a ECL 12 Illumian-Naenhoon/Half Titan ,Domain Wizard (7)AbjurantChampion(4)SacredExorsit(1)

Taking Two Alt Class features for The wizard part of my build
1: Domain wizard (Take Hero Domain From OA TO Nab Divine power and Giant size)
2: Domain Granted power (War Domian For martial weapon Great-sword and weapon focus Great-sword)

I plan to use my racial ability to persist Divine power along with bite of the were tiger

and with that said my stats are as follows

Without My buffs are
34 STR, Dex 24, CON,24, INT 38,WIS 24, CHA,26
With my Buffs
54 STR, 28 Dex, 30 con, 38 INT, 24 Wis, 26 Cha


Currently going with the following feats
1: Combat casting
2: Extend spell
3: Persistent Spell
4 Versatile spellcaster
5??? Not sure what to take


Feel Free to rip apart my build and tell me how is sucks, But at least tell me how to make a Stronger Gish. please

syryous
2017-04-29, 09:53 PM
This build needs way more Rakshasa.

Rakshasa 7th level Sorcerer LA +7 (free)
7 RHD (1 free)

6 RHD + 6 Sorc Levels for 13th level Sorc casting and 7 RHD?

Plus Change Shape and Detect Thoughts at wil...
+2 Strength, +4 Dexterity, +6 Constitution, +2 Intelligence, +2 Wisdom, +6 Charisma
+9 natural armor bonus.
Natural Weapons: Bite (1d6) and 2 claws (1d4).

So much potential here.

Nosta
2017-04-29, 10:00 PM
This build needs way more Rakshasa.

Rakshasa 7th level Sorcerer LA +7 (free)
7 RHD (1 free)

6 RHD + 6 Sorc Levels for 13th level Sorc casting and 7 RHD?

Plus Change Shape and Detect Thoughts at will?

Trust me I wanted to play one but do do another players back story I can not.

syryous
2017-04-29, 10:04 PM
too bad, seems perfect for your build, and a bit unbelievable when you say all 3.5 material is allowed.

Blu
2017-04-29, 10:09 PM
Oh, i saw your other posts.

Just for curiosity, you picking Hero domain with your wizard was your DM doing or there is something about it in some book?

Could you give a breakdown of your stats?


Do you have any magic items already?


Edit: Are you getting Half-titan SLA's?

syryous
2017-04-29, 10:22 PM
This is some ruse to make "Bastards and Bloodlines" a thing, isn't it? That book sucks, and is 3rd party.

Biffoniacus_Furiou
2017-04-29, 11:13 PM
How are you qualifying for Abjurant Champion at Wizard 7? You can't Naenhoon Persist anything until you've started taking Sacred Exorcist, which requires a 5th level Wizard spell. Your current build can't take Sacred Exorcist until Wizard 7/ Abjurant Champion 2, and it can't take any Abjurant Champion levels until it's taken that Sacred Exorcist level. It simply does not work.

I'd recommend instead going with an Elf or a Human, go Human Paragon or Elf Paragon (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/races/racialParagonClasses.htm) 1/ Wizard 2/ Fighter 1/ Human Paragon or Elf Paragon 2/ Spellsword 1/ Incantatrix 4/ Abjurant Champion 1 staring out, and plan to max out Abjurant Champion and finish the build with either Eldritch Knight or Knight Phantom. Take Item Famililar (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/magic/itemFamiliars.htm) and invest as many skill points as possible into it for the greatest return possible toward Spellcraft, and you can take ten to use Metamagic Effect to persist 3+Int modifier spells per day. That will give you 17/20 spellcasting and 16/20 BAB by 20th level, exactly what a Gish needs. You can use Persistent Draconic Polymorph to turn into a War Troll (MM3) along with Persistent Draconic Might for insane physical stats, especially if you take the feat Ability Enhancer from Dragon Compendium. In this case I would use a Variant Half-Fiend (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20060630a) based on an Arcanaloth (Yugoloth, MM2) which gets you Dex +4, Int +8, Cha +4, plus all the other Half-Fiend benefits, for a +4 LA.

Regardless, Incantatrix (PGtF) with Spell Focus optimization (Item Familiar and max ranks is all you need) will get you a lot more persistent buffs than Naenhoon can offer.



Checking the list of Monsters With Innate Spellcasting (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=1582.0), it looks like the strongest Wizard choice you've got for this is going to be...

A Red Ethergaunt in the Fiend Folio has 5 Aberration (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/typesSubtypes.htm#aberrationType) HD, a +7 LA, and Wizard 9 spellcasting. You can take a Wizard level to increase that and to pick a specialized school or get the Domain Wizard ACF. That gives you one point of LA to play with (Half-Fiend (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/sp/20031010a) 1 gets you Outsider skill points for all your racial HD, and you never have to finish the template class (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/sp/20030824a)), and at 6th level you'll have 10th level spellcasting. Go HD 5/ Wizard 1/ Fighter 1/ Spellsword 1/ Abjurant Champion 5 and you're 12th level with Wizard 16 spellcasting.

Blu
2017-04-29, 11:33 PM
How are you qualifying for Abjurant Champion at Wizard 7?

OP stated using Domain granted power for the War domain, wich gives one martial weapon prof.

Edit: Oh... wait... BAB needs to be +5... There is something wrong there.


Hey, another option for the build is maybe going for Duskblade 2/Wiz 4/Spellsword 1/Abj. Champ.
Human paragon can net you +1 caster level, +2 stat, +1 feat. But Duskblade 2 gives you Combat Casting and Armored mage(Light) wich basically translates to two free feats.

And with 1 level of spellsword, you could be using a higly enchanted full plate(tons of stuff to reduce Arcane failure to 0%) in the case you got caught in an AMF or something.


The idea with Incantrix for more persistomancy seems interesting too.

Rebel7284
2017-04-30, 12:11 AM
Note that the half-titan template gives you full casting already...

Spells: Half Titans with an Intelligence or Wisdom Score of at least 12 can cast spells as either a cleric or wizard (but not both) of a level equal to their HD.

At the very least, it means you can take cleric racial casting and be the ultimate mystic theurge with 50 Strength. Saves you from having to learn Divine Power on the wizard side.