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Nosta
2017-05-03, 10:58 PM
I need Help making sure I have Good Feats for this Build.
Some like Sanctum spell are a most and for stuff like enlarge spell for War weaver I'd like to retrain it but not sure what do.


1 Wizard(1)- Enlarge Spell, Combat Casting, Scribe Scroll,Sanctum Spell.Arcane Disciple (Healing)
2 Wizard(2)
3 War Weaver(1) Quicken Spell
4 War Weaver(2)
5 War weaver(3)
6 War Weaver (4) Item Familiar (For raking up my Spell craft for incantatrix )
7 War Weaver(5)
8 Spell Guard(1)
9 Spell Guard(2) Extend spell/?????
10 Spell Guard(3)
11 Spellguard(4)
12 Incantatrix (1) Persist Spell/?????

Hiro Quester
2017-05-03, 11:06 PM
I want my Character to be known as The Black Tactician
so I want to be Able to Buff and lead and Army

I'm guessing you know about Hallack's War Weaver "Black Tactica Edition (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=o35snjjmu2q8351h3mojjvhd53&topic=1473.0)" handbook.

It's all about discharging your obligations to the party in the first round, then milking the action economy (Celerity) to also blast the enemy spellcaster to pieces.

And it includes some possible builds. Not including spellguard (you might have enough with Wizard5/War Weaver5/Incantatrix 10) though.

Nosta
2017-05-03, 11:29 PM
I'm guessing you know about Hallack's War Weaver "Black Tactica Edition (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=o35snjjmu2q8351h3mojjvhd53&topic=1473.0)" handbook.

It's all about discharging your obligations to the party in the first round, then milking the action economy (Celerity) to also blast the enemy spellcaster to pieces.

And it includes some possible builds. Not including spellguard (you might have enough with Wizard5/War Weaver5/Incantatrix 10) though.

ok so i'm going through the suggested Spells But i'm having Trouble picking out my spells

My Party is made up of Sorcerer/mindbender, an Assassin (not sure the base class) A warblade and some other caster I think

Gildedragon
2017-05-04, 10:48 AM
Wizard 3, War Weaver 5, Spellguard 4... And that makes 12

Nosta
2017-05-04, 02:54 PM
Wizard 3, War Weaver 5, Spellguard 4

Ok First Off Should I Be a Specialist wizard and how Dose the War weaver and the spell Guard interact,

noob
2017-05-04, 03:43 PM
Spontaneous divination is cool.(you would lose a feat but it is still cool)
Specializing in one school gets you extra spells and if you do not want to ban too many schools specializing in divination is not the worst idea.(Ban evocation and remember your allies can mind-jar into you for casting contingency and that craft contingent spell do not needs to have evocation)
Ask your gm if spontaneous divination allows to take versatile spellcaster(cast any spell you know by spending two spells).

Gildedragon
2017-05-04, 08:34 PM
Transmuter isn't a bad choice for school specialization: a lot of buffs are Transmutation.

Transmutable memory is pretty good... Provided that the PRCs advance that. If not: ditch.

Changeling with the sub level might be pretty nice. A fair few buffs are illusion too

Nosta
2017-05-04, 09:01 PM
Build is up in the first post

Gildedragon
2017-05-04, 09:11 PM
You only need Spellguard 4... Spellguard 5 is pretty blah.

Also if you're ever using sanctum spell: enter war weaver at 3. That way you can be Warweaver 5 Spellguard 4 right from the start
And you'll get to incantatrix 7 pre epic

Nosta
2017-05-04, 09:40 PM
You only need Spellguard 4... Spellguard 5 is pretty blah.

Also if you're ever using sanctum spell: enter war weaver at 3. That way you can be Warweaver 5 Spellguard 4 right from the start
And you'll get to incantatrix 7 pre epic

Ok so something Like Wizard(3)War Weaver(5)Spell Guard(4) Then Incantatrix 8 or should I just take it to 4 and then do something else?

Gildedragon
2017-05-04, 10:16 PM
Ok so something Like Wizard(3)War Weaver(5)Spell Guard(4) Then Incantatrix 8 or should I just take it to 4 and then do something else?

Prolly take it to 8... If your game bleeds into epic then that's pretty dandy

Nosta
2017-05-04, 11:10 PM
Updated Build needs someone to take a looks and help me Finish it up

Gildedragon
2017-05-05, 08:05 AM
How are you getting six ranks and lvl 3 spells at 2nd level?

Nosta
2017-05-05, 10:03 AM
How are you getting six ranks and lvl 3 spells at 2nd level?

how dose this look?



1 Wizard- Enlarge Spell, Combat Casting, Scribe Scroll,Sanctum Spell.Arcane Disciple (Healing)
2 Wizard
3 Wizard Item Familiar
4:War Weaver -Eldritch Tapestry
5 War Weaver- Quiescent Weaving
6 War Weaver- Quiescent Weaving/Ocular Spell
7 War Weaver- Quiescent Weaving
8War Weaver - Quiescent Weaving/Enlarged Tapestry
9 Spell Guard- Ward Attunement:Empower spell
10 Spellguard- Extend Spell
11 Spellguard- Selective Spell
12 SpellGuard-Spellguard/Persist Spell/???

Gildedragon
2017-05-05, 11:10 AM
Much nicer.
I'd again recommend specialization to make up for the lost CL in War Weaver (you still cast only as an 11th lvl caster but it is handy nonetheless

If retraining is Possible: swap out enlarge spell after finishing war weaver.

Nosta
2017-05-05, 02:39 PM
Much nicer.
I'd again recommend specialization to make up for the lost CL in War Weaver (you still cast only as an 11th lvl caster but it is handy nonetheless

If retraining is Possible: swap out enlarge spell after finishing war weaver.

Got any input on what my feats should look like up to level 12
With two Free Feats for taking flaws and 1 for human?

Gildedragon
2017-05-05, 04:07 PM
Got any input on what my feats should look like up to level 12
With two Free Feats for taking flaws and 1 for human?

Just human? Haven't you got a lot of LA you can use?

Nosta
2017-05-05, 06:28 PM
Just human? Haven't you got a lot of LA you can use?

Yes I can use up to LA +8

Got something in mind?

Nosta
2017-05-05, 08:36 PM
I need more help with my build

Gildedragon
2017-05-05, 08:41 PM
Well Phrenic is pretty much a template you need.
Slapping on the Deep racial variant from Dragon 3...something (same place as Spark is from)
Maybe half janni?