Sim / Ice Assassin and Ability Damage Question

[kalos72]

Since these are both sort of Constructs, can they suffer CON damage? Typical Constructs can't...

I am looking at the Firestorm Berserker class and its Inferno ability which causes the player to us his Constitution to extend his Rage.

If you make a Sim or Ice Assassin of him, can that Sim still use the ability since he doesnt suffer CON damage?

[flappeercraft]

They don't have the construct type so they do take ability damage actually. They are specified to be living beings also IIRC

[kalos72]

Not to argue...I have never seen them called living beings.

"Simulacrum creates an illusory duplicate of any creature. The duplicate creature is partially real and formed from ice or snow."

[flappeercraft]

"An ice assassin spell creates a living, breathing creature that is a near-perfect duplicate of an existing creature."

[Crake]

"An ice assassin spell creates a living, breathing creature that is a near-perfect duplicate of an existing creature."

Technically this is correct, however, kalos, if you want to homebrew it, rest assured that at least 1 other person agrees with you and gives them construct-like qualities as well (it's me, I do that :smalltongue: )