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Creyzi4j
2017-05-26, 10:36 AM
Can the Orcish Fury feat gain a double die on a critical hit?

N810
2017-05-26, 11:49 AM
IRC it think it's just +1 weapon dice on crit.

so if you normally got 2d12 on a crit, you would get 3d12 instead.



Orcish Fury

Prerequisite: Half-orc

Your fury burns tirelessly. You gain the following

benefits:

• Increase your Strength or Constitution score

by 1, up to a maximum of 20.

• When you hit with an attack made with a

simple or martial weapon, you can roll one of

the weapon’s damage dice an additional time

and add it as extra damage of the weapon’s

damage type. Once you use this ability, you

can’t use it again until you finish a short or

long rest.

• Immediately after you use your Relentless

Endurance trait, you can use your reaction to

make one weapon attack.

solidork
2017-05-26, 12:02 PM
It seems to work pretty much the same as Divine Smite, so you can use the feat after you know that you've crit and if you do the dice will be doubled.

Creyzi4j
2017-05-26, 07:45 PM
It seems to work pretty much the same as Divine Smite, so you can use the feat after you know that you've crit and if you do the dice will be doubled.
SHoudln't the die be doubled on a crit?
That means

- Normal 1d12
- +1d12 for weapon die being doubled (normal crit)
- Another 1d12 for savage attacks (half-orc racial feat/i don't think thi doubles since it is specific to a crit)
- 1d12 for orcish fury being declared (what my question is abt)
- another 1d12 for doubling orcish fury roll (crit doubles the orcish firy roll)?

That's a total of 5d12 for a greataxe on a crit.!

Mith
2017-05-26, 08:38 PM
I think it is just add a hit die once per short rest. With that feat that makes a half orc barb hits for 7d12 +Str. for a critical hit? So likely 7d12+7 assuming a 24 Str.

Man, I want that feat on my Half Orc Barbarian right now.

Creyzi4j
2017-05-26, 08:40 PM
I think it is just add a hit die once per short rest. With that feat that makes a half orc barb hits for 7d12 +Str. for a critical hit? So likely 7d12+7 assuming a 24 Str.

Man, I want that feat on my Half Orc Barbarian right now.
Why is it 7d12? Can make a breakdown of why extra rolls happen?

Also...did u invlude rage dmg?

Mith
2017-05-26, 08:53 PM
Why is it 7d12? Can make a breakdown of why extra rolls happen?

Also...did u invlude rage dmg

I did forget rage. I could have mis remembered the brutal critical die progression.

Static Damage: +11 at 24 Str (+7) and +4 for Rage

Dice:Base damage: 1d12
Critical: + 1d12
17th level Brutal Crit. + 3d12
Savage Attack: + 1d12 on crit
Orcish Fury: + 1d12/shortrest
Total: 7d12 + 11

Creyzi4j
2017-05-26, 08:57 PM
I did forget rage. I could have mis remembered the brutal critical die progression.

Static Damage: +11 at 24 Str (+7) and +4 for Rage

Dice:Base damage: 1d12
Critical: + 1d12
17th level Brutal Crit. + 3d12
Savage Attack: + 1d12 on crit
Orcish Fury: + 1d12/shortrest
Total: 7d12 + 11

Shouldn't Orcish Fury be +2d12 instead of 1d12 on a critical (what my question entirely is abt)?
So that should be 8d12?

Mith
2017-05-26, 09:03 PM
Shouldn't Orcish Fury be +2d12 instead of 1d12 on a critical (what my question entirely is abt)?
So that should be 8d12?

My read is that you re roll 1 extra damage die, so you throw 3d13 on a crit. Then you add in Savage Attack (4d12), and then the 3 brutal crit dice (7d12).

Saiga
2017-05-26, 09:09 PM
But it's worded the same way as a Smite, which benefit from crits, so should this not benefit as well?

Creyzi4j
2017-05-26, 09:25 PM
My read is that you re roll 1 extra damage die, so you throw 3d13 on a crit. Then you add in Savage Attack (4d12), and then the 3 brutal crit dice (7d12).
My question is that.. Does the extra 1d12 from Orcish Fury double on a critical? Since criticals double all dies shoudln't Orcish Fury be included as well?

So that should be 4d12 on a critical (without savage attacks and brutal critical being calculated yet)

Mith
2017-05-26, 09:28 PM
Perhaps. I read it as a broadening of Savage Attacker. I am perfectly happy to have this and GWM to do 8d12+ 21 points of damage and the take a bonus action attack. That's 73 points of damage per short rest on a crit.