Magicless Shapeshifting, is there any? (3.5)

[flappeercraft]

Basically what the title says, if you know any just say. Anything works. Even i fyou shapeshift to a suckish thing. Cheese is fine

[zergling.exe]

Basically what the title says, if you know any just say. Anything works. Even i fyou shapeshift to a suckish thing. Cheese is fine

Changeling has (Ex) alter self at will. Does that count?

[Matrota]

A really good disguise check

[flappeercraft]

Changeling has (Ex) alter self at will. Does that count?

Well.... Yes

[ShurikVch]

Well, Mimic (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/mimic.htm) have Mimic Shape (Ex)

Star Doppelganger in Menace Manual (D20 Modern) have Mimic (Ex)

Lossarwyn the Ice Lich in Champions Of Ruin somehow have Wild Shape (Ex)

Also, Alter Size (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/divine/divineAbilitiesFeats.htm#alterSize)/Alter Form (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/divine/divineAbilitiesFeats.htm#alterForm)/Shift Form (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/divine/divineAbilitiesFeats.htm#shiftForm)/Shapechange (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/divine/divineAbilitiesFeats.htm#shapechange)/True Shapechange (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/divine/divineAbilitiesFeats.htm#trueShapechange) SDAs - all are an extraordinary abilities.

Finally, if you use Warcraft RPG books, some of the Dragon Aspects (in Shadows & Light) got Shapechange (Ex)



Changeling has (Ex) alter self at will. Does that count?Minor Change Shape? (Su)

[zergling.exe]

Minor Change Shape? (Su)

Huh, I could have sworn it was an extraordinary ability.

[Necroticplague]

Basically what the title says, if you know any just say. Anything works. Even i fyou shapeshift to a suckish thing. Cheese is fine

A Mimic's ability to take on different forms (Mimic Shape) is EX. Entirely a byproduct of it's anatomy. Likewise, the Hagunemnon's ability to bash together abilities of other creatures (Alter Shape) is also EX, and a byproduct of it's anatomy. .

[Cosi]

What do you mean "magicless"? Is that just "not a spell", or "only Ex abilities", or something else in between?

[flappeercraft]

Basically no spells, wildshaping and preferably no template/racial (Su) abilities although they are still somewhat helpful. Preferably anything that does not fall under any of those categories.

[BearonVonMu]

Pathfinder's third party has a Rakshasa Paragon class for the Yaksha race.
It can give the ability to shapeshift into humanoids (including particular individuals) and animals.
It seems like a fairly solid class overall as well, and only needs a three level dip for most of your shifting needs.

[ShurikVch]

Caryatid Column (Fiend Folio) can turn into simple stone column
Elohim (Menace Manual) have Fire Form
Dralasite (D20 Future) can "grow" and reabsorb arms and legs

If you OK to look into 3rd-party stuff, then:
After Sunset, Werewolves (Clockwork Golem Workshop): Werewolf got Alternate Form (Ex)
Monster Anthology Volume 1 (Khan's Press): "Dream/Nightmarish Creature" template - Dream creatures with the nightmare subtype got Dream Polymorph (Ex)
The Wizard's Amulet (Necromancer Games): Talon, Vortigern’s Imp Familiar have Polymorph (Ex)

Also, those are, probably, a homebrew, but just in case:
Adaptor (http://necromancergames.yuku.com/topic/6911/Conversions-from-cildarith) - Polymorph (Ex)
Malleable Creature (Template) (http://www.d20resources.com/menaces.d20/menaces/malleable.creature.template.php) - Malleable Form (Ex)
Metal Slime, Silmarillium Slime (http://kyia.com/Taeran_DnD3_Monsters.html) - Polymorph (Ex)
Mimetic Ooze (http://www.d20modern.com/8/monster-mimetic-ooze.html) - Change Shape (Ex)
Mortai (http://www.enworld.org/creaturecatalog/Conversions/Mortai.htm) - Cloud Form (Ex), Gaseous Form (Ex)
Protein Polymorph (http://www.enworld.org/cctest/newcc/Conversions/Protein%20Polymorph.htm) - True Polymorph (Ex)

[Inevitability]

One of the Ravenloft books (kinda first-party; it's complicated) has a bit of material that allows one to replicate spells as extraordinary devices. I presume (Ex) shapechanging would be possible that way.

[Calthropstu]

Being hit with a chaos beast causes a shapeshift of sorts.

[Inevitability]

Being hit with a chaos beast causes a shapeshift of sorts.

Corporeal Instability is (Su), though.

One could arguably consider its Immunity to Transformation nonmagical shapechanging, though. Basically, a chaos beast somehow transformed into something else can return to its own form as a free action.

[Inevitability]

Just realized another: Twisted Lord. This is their level 1 class feature:


Twisted Form (Ex): When you enter this class. you gain the ability to adopt a twisted form by taking a move action to do so. Your face takes on a sinister, misshapen cast. Your limbs lengthen and bend, and your spine stoops. The symmetry of your body becomes a thing of the past.
While in your twisted form, you gain a +4 bonus on Bluff checks to feint in combat, a +4 bonus on Intimidate checks to demoralize an opponent, and a +4 bonus on Escape Artist checks. You take a -4 penalty on Diplomacy checks and other attempts to influence an NPC's attitude.
You can remain in your twisted form as long as you like. Many twisted lords find it more comfortable than the form they had before they partook of twistroot.

[CIDE]

Well, Mimic (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/mimic.htm) have Mimic Shape (Ex)

Star Doppelganger in Menace Manual (D20 Modern) have Mimic (Ex)

Lossarwyn the Ice Lich in Champions Of Ruin somehow have Wild Shape (Ex)

Also, Alter Size (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/divine/divineAbilitiesFeats.htm#alterSize)/Alter Form (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/divine/divineAbilitiesFeats.htm#alterForm)/Shift Form (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/divine/divineAbilitiesFeats.htm#shiftForm)/Shapechange (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/divine/divineAbilitiesFeats.htm#shapechange)/True Shapechange (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/divine/divineAbilitiesFeats.htm#trueShapechange) SDAs - all are an extraordinary abilities.

Finally, if you use Warcraft RPG books, some of the Dragon Aspects (in Shadows & Light) got Shapechange (Ex)


Minor Change Shape? (Su)


I couldn't find the ice lich. Sure you have the right book? Or the right character?

[ShurikVch]

I couldn't find the ice lich. Sure you have the right book? Or the right character?Yup, all is correct: Champions Of Ruin, Chapter 4: Evil Organizations, page 83

[CIDE]

Yup, all is correct: Champions Of Ruin, Chapter 4: Evil Organizations, page 83


I'll be damned. There it is. I don't see anything to explain it unfortunately.

[Jack_Simth]

One of the Ravenloft books (kinda first-party; it's complicated)
Second-party, is I think the term. Anyway, it was an officially licensed product. They got to use the D&D logo and such.

[Darrin]

Second-party, is I think the term. Anyway, it was an officially licensed product. They got to use the D&D logo and such.

No. 2nd party typically refers to the buyer/consumer.

Expedition to Castle Ravenloft was published by WotC. It's a 1st party book. The 3.0-era "Dungeons & Dragons" logo indicates that it was not a licensed product.

Ravenloft: Legacy of Blood (which contains the "Craft Device" feat") was published under a license agreement with Arthaus publishing (aka White Wolf). It's a 3rd party book. They did not use a D&D logo or even the d20 logo, they used the Sword & Sorcery logo, which is a White Wolf trademark.

[ShurikVch]

How about the transform-during-the-Rage things?
Bear Warrior's Bear Form is (su), but Goliath's Mountain Rage, Halfling Rage (of Halfling Barbarian sub. level), and Primal Rager's Heart of the Beast (grow claws and got +1 to DR) - are all (Ex)