magicalmagicman
2017-06-08, 04:14 PM
There's been a few Nar Demonbinder threads this past week, which got me wanting to try it out again. The threads however has a bit of rule lawyering regarding early entry, so I've come up with a build that requires 0 rule lawyering.
Wizard6/WyrmWizard2/NarDemonbinder1/Marshal1/UltimateMagus10
The progression would be:
1-6: Wizard6
7: WyrmWizard1
8: Nar Demonbinder
9: Marshal
10: WyrmWizard2 (Devil's Ego)
11-20: Ultimate Magus
So the problem here is that although I get Lesser Planar Binding 1 level earlier than other wizards, I get Planar Binding 2 levels later than other wizards (level 13 instead of 11).
This build would severely hamper my spellcasting So basically my character's power will stay at a stand still for 4 levels (9-12)., and makes me rely on outsiders called by Lesser Planar Binding until level 12. I don't have too much experience with Lesser Planar Binding, so are they strong enough to let me contribute enough to the party until level 12?
My Ability scores would somehow end up as Int:19 and Cha:18 meaning my wizard's spell DCs are not gonna be something I can rely on.
I liked how the other thread had the earliest lesser planar binding possible (level 8), and the sky high charisma check, but I did not like the early entry stuff, and the fact that you need to rely on either dragon magazine or eberron to be able to enter Cosmic Descryer, so I changed those parts.
I think the Marshal Dip is mandatory, but maybe I can delay the Wyrm Wizard Spell Research until level 13 to get planar binding one level earlier.
Wizard6/WyrmWizard2/NarDemonbinder1/Marshal1/UltimateMagus10
The progression would be:
1-6: Wizard6
7: WyrmWizard1
8: Nar Demonbinder
9: Marshal
10: WyrmWizard2 (Devil's Ego)
11-20: Ultimate Magus
So the problem here is that although I get Lesser Planar Binding 1 level earlier than other wizards, I get Planar Binding 2 levels later than other wizards (level 13 instead of 11).
This build would severely hamper my spellcasting So basically my character's power will stay at a stand still for 4 levels (9-12)., and makes me rely on outsiders called by Lesser Planar Binding until level 12. I don't have too much experience with Lesser Planar Binding, so are they strong enough to let me contribute enough to the party until level 12?
My Ability scores would somehow end up as Int:19 and Cha:18 meaning my wizard's spell DCs are not gonna be something I can rely on.
I liked how the other thread had the earliest lesser planar binding possible (level 8), and the sky high charisma check, but I did not like the early entry stuff, and the fact that you need to rely on either dragon magazine or eberron to be able to enter Cosmic Descryer, so I changed those parts.
I think the Marshal Dip is mandatory, but maybe I can delay the Wyrm Wizard Spell Research until level 13 to get planar binding one level earlier.