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DigoDragon
2017-06-14, 08:38 AM
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Trixie's Great and Powerful Guide v3.0!
Bleakbane'd Edition

Brief Introduction

MLP: Friendship Is Magic is a reboot of the MLP franchise by Powerpuff Girls artist Lauren Faust. The show's writing and production engendered a large fanbase outside of the intended target audience.

This long-running thread is not only a place to discuss MLP, both official releases and the vast array of fanworks, but has become a mini-community in and of itself.

> Isn't this a show for little girls?

It's a clever show. It has excellent writing, character dynamics, humor, animation, and generally treats kids seriously rather than condescending to them. It has every right to be a 20 minute corporate committee designed infomercial, but it's not.

> If I want to get into the show, where do I start?

A good starting point is to watch the episodes in order. The show is available on Netflixs in many countries, but, at a pinch, can usually be found with some searching one youtube or dailymotion. Search for "Friendship is Magic Episode 1" and you should find the series pretty easily.

Alternatively, you can ask ponythread itself for a few choice episodes; we're always happy to help!



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General Links

Friendship is Magic Wiki (http://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/My_Little_Pony_Friendship_is_Magic_Wiki)

Pony News: Equestria Daily (http://www.equestriadaily.com/) | Derpynews (http://derpynews.com/)
Discussion Forums: Ponychan (http://www.ponychan.net/chan/) | Allspark MLP (http://http://www.allspark.com/forums/forum/67-my-little-allsparkle/)
Pony Emotes: FiM Emotes (http://kefkafloyd.imgur.com/J8S59) | MC's Emotes (http://gitpmcerberus.imgur.com/ponymote) | GD's Emotes (http://gadora.imgur.com/seekret_pony_projekt_1/1)
Pony Images: Ponibooru [RIP] | 20% Cooler (http://twentypercentcooler.net/) | Derpibooru (http://derpibooru.org/)
Know Your Meme: Ponies! (http://knowyourmeme.com/search?q=pony)

Ponythread New Episode Spoiler Policy
To allow everyone time to be able to catch up on a new episode, we ask that everyone please spoiler all discussion of upcoming and new episodes until at least two days after it airs. (I.e., if the new episode is on Saturday, please keep eveything in spoilers until Tuesday.

In the case of official MLP comics, ponthread policy is to always discuss them in spoilers, on the basis that, for example, ponythreaders in the UK do not get them until some weeks later.


Art Links


The specific colour values used for the ponies can be obtained from the Friendship is Magic Wiki (linked above) on each pony's wiki page, under the "more info" dropdown.

Tutorials:

How to Draw Luna (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1YoOgNwPp4)
MLP Art Guides (http://s1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc361/DJPon-3/)

Ponythread Learns to Draw II

The Creator

Lauren Faust (http://fyre-flye.deviantart.com/)

Concept art by L. Faust:

AJ/AJ (http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TZPZtv1PUCI/AAAAAAAABPg/aTDHM_vJ3Ek/Applejack-08.jpg)
Pinkie/Surprise (http://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TZPZtjpEWrI/AAAAAAAABPc/vlcKpVmK1FY/Pinkie_08.jpg)
Rarity/Sparkler (http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TZPZuba65VI/AAAAAAAABPo/o7oJ1OI4bcE/Rarity_08.jpg)
Twilight/Twinkle (http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TZPZuS8XZtI/AAAAAAAABPs/9CPSE6Je1Y0/Twilight_08.jpg)
Derpy/Ditzy (http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TZPZtusFdII/AAAAAAAABPk/4VbhxajIt1o/Derpy_11.jpg)

Group Shot (http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-zPGxLKSxqsI/Tet-724kmrI/AAAAAAAABoc/74J43JjtvVc/mlplegroupruff.jpg)

Deviant Art Links:
14 Bis (http://14-bis.deviantart.com/)
ButterSS (http://buttersc0tchsundae.deviantart.com/)
Csimadmax (http://csimadmax.deviantart.com/)
DonKoRR (http://don-komandorr.deviantart.com/)
Irving Zero (http://irving-zero.deviantart.com/)
Johnjoseco (http://johnjoseco.deviantart.com/)
Kloudmutt (http://kloudmutt.deviantart.com/)
Shinepaw (http://shinepawpony.deviantart.com/)

>Awesome Great and Powerful Trixie (http://kp-shadowsquirrel.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d49ccgo)<

Some Nice Pictures:

TG&P Trixie 1 (http://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TYlPoSj31bI/AAAAAAAABKc/yhAESX1bWDU/129879022202-fim_thebestmagic2.png) 2a (http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TYevesc6Z3I/AAAAAAAABJE/wqYR1YU8-xM/129878791125-Magic_for_Friendship.png) 2b (http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TYlPoV0tFSI/AAAAAAAABKg/UIrpK2_XUDk/345%20-%20filly%20flower%20Magic%20noel%20Trixie.jpg) 3 (http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TYevn1UZNyI/AAAAAAAABJI/JQaTPZ7u9kk/1295392718493.png)
Twilight Sparkle 1 (http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TYlQKpEFW1I/AAAAAAAABKo/PJmzRBt_g0o/twilight-%28n1298746506900%29.jpg) 2 (http://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TYgEWabUv0I/AAAAAAAABJg/S1emWO9FjbE/1297919269027.png) 3 (http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TYlQAwKvFvI/AAAAAAAABKk/08Q9f1BaGa0/1298478186234.png)
Rainbow Dash 1 (http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TY-tuXX0V5I/AAAAAAAABOE/vPLwNGpCsU8/rainbows_are_awesome_by_adamrbi-d3awtkv.jpg) 2 (http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TY-tugAF4JI/AAAAAAAABOI/RYGrQCZySJo/1298478713223.jpg) 3 (http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TY-tutzFrYI/AAAAAAAABOM/QP22FdlygtA/1299129766866.png) 3.6 (http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TY-vxE-8GgI/AAAAAAAABOY/ktOwjPQ3eiI/130057856759.png)
Fluttershy 1 (http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TZPZiSMaDSI/AAAAAAAABPQ/FNLXj6WE0ss/yofluttershybyarborishd.png) 2 (http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TZPZiUXQlvI/AAAAAAAABPU/SCs7qzer-6E/129860262040.png) 3 (http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TZPZiWhyIWI/AAAAAAAABPY/r6ClIhygmw0/1297113141466.png)

Media

Official Youtube Channels:

My Little Pony Channel (=https://www.youtube.com/user/mylittlepony/videos)
Hasbro Studios Shorts (https://www.youtube.com/user/HasbroStudiosShorts/videos)

Pony AMVs, Games, Music and more
Equestria Daily Media (http://www.equestriadaily.com/search/label/Media)

Comics:

Equestria Daily comics (http://www.equestriadaily.com/search/label/Comic)

CSImadmax (http://csimadmax.deviantart.com/gallery/27895270) | Metaponies (http://gavalanche.deviantart.com/gallery/29877487)

Fanfiction

Fimfiction (http://www.fimfiction.net/)
Equestria Daily archive (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/09/eqd-super-simple-archiver-test.html)

GitP Fic Authors:

AmishPirate (http://www.equestriadaily.com/search/label/Author%3A%20TheAmishPirate) | Darth BC (http://www.equestriadaily.com/search/label/Author%3A%20Bobcat) | Deadly (https://www.fimfiction.net/user/adcoon): Trollestia 1 (http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/200/0/b/trickster_goddess_nr_1_by_adcoon-d40tt3d.png) 2 (http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/201/a/4/trickster_goddess_nr_2_by_adcoon-d414fzw.png) 3 (http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/214/1/3/trickster_goddess_nr_3_by_adcoon-d42h2hx.png) 4 (http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/229/0/d/trickster_goddess_nr_4_by_adcoon-d46vksj.png) | DigoDragon (http://www.fimfiction.net/user/Digodragon) | EsperDerek (http://www.equestriadaily.com/search/label/Author%3A%20EsperDerek) | Grif (http://www.fimfiction.net/user/Grif) | Juntao (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/103601/from-equestria-with-love) | PhantomFox (http://www.equestriadaily.com/search/label/Author%3A%20PhantomFox) | PhoeKun (http://www.equestriadaily.com/search/label/Author%3A%20Phoe) | Raz Fox (http://www.equestriadaily.com/search/label/Author%3A%20Raz_Fox) | Thanqol (http://www.equestriadaily.com/search/label/Author%3A%20Thanqol)
Aotrs Commander (http://www.fimfiction.net/user/Aotrs%20Commander) | Dexam (https://www.fimfiction.net/user/The%20Ponytrician) | Silfir (http://www.fimfiction.net/user/Glimmerglaze)


Same Old Ponymotes:

Original Batch
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MCerberus
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Crazy!Twi
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Kyouhen Series feat. Ninja Pinkie!
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Misc:

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Seekrit Pony Projekt
1-20
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21-40
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Ok, let me see these new Equestria Games shorts. The first one at first.
EG5 E1: Dance Magic, thoughts as I watch.
I don't get it. Why do they need paper slips in a ballot box to sign up if they have to make a music video?
What's the point of everyone dancing in different styles? Wouldn't that look stupid together in a video?



The signup is probably so the contest knows how many groups are entering (prevent someone entering multiple times).

I had a thought at first that Crystal Prep was gonna totally mess up this idea. Cause mashing different dance styles together to look good sounds hard.

Pilum
2017-06-14, 09:05 AM
It's been almost seven years so far
We've been visiting Equestria.
And we'd like some more of you to know
About our little pony show
So may we introduce to you
A happy little forum place
It's Miss Cheerilee's Lonely Hearts Club thread!

b_jonas
2017-06-14, 09:23 AM
Continuing with the second Equestria Girls episode.

EG5 E2: Movie Magic, thoughts as I watch.

It's a volcano with continuous lava waterfall. Not as impressive as Lord Vader's Dwarf Fortress style lair on Mustafar in Star Wars: Rogue One, but still nice.
They're making a Daring Do film? How did they get permission for that? Maybe A. K. Yearling, who is personally a friend of Rainbow Dash, has persuaded the publishers. Or am I taking this story too seriously?
Ah, they're not making the film, they're just spectators watching making the film. That's much more realistic. Sometimes TV series are recorded with an audience watching, or at least they used to be when I was young. I don't find that likely for a really successful franchise like Daring Do, but it's not much of a stretch to let just a few people watch as a special favor.
(“Little? This is Daring Do we're talking about! This movie is gonna be huge!”) Yep, Rainbow Dash agrees with me that it's a big franchise.
They have an actress playing Daring Do? What? Don't they just film most of Daring Do's actual adventures on scene live (https://stickman.qntm.org/comics.php?n=243), giving some of the profit to the lead villains too so they let the filming staff work, and let the real Daring Do fill in for the few scenes they have to recreate in a studio? Oh well.
She just takes the candy bar wrapper from the scene? But that's going to be an important clue that leads Daring Do to discover Mojo's plan. It's got to be there on the set.
I'm afraid I can't share the enthusiasm of these girls here. Movies are sausage or beer or any other industry, you can enjoy them better if you don't know how they're made.
A girl they just met is leading Twilight and Rainbow into Caballeron's secret lair? I'd be more suspicious. What if she's actually working for Caballeron and wants to capture them? They don't have Quibble Pants here to save them this time.
(“Where are my imported peanut butter praline crunch bars?”) Water imported from Rainbow Falls, floral arrangements from the royal Canterlot gardens (no wait, Canterlot doesn't have a royal castle garden in this universe), chocolate éclairs made by Gustave le Grand, a selection of crystals from the Crystal Empire (you mean crystals from that cave next to Camp Everfree?), freshly picked cherries from Cherry Jubilee's farm separated red from yellow.
(Rainbow Dash: “Maybe I'll just go take one more peek at them [the relics].”) Oh no! Will the relics go missing too after the dress? A. K. Yearling will be furious!
Good thing Twilight Sparkle is genre savvy and knows she has to track down who is sabotaging the film. Must be the actress who wants to force the producer to pay them a gazillion more bottles of Rainbow Falls water in exchange for extending her stay by one more month. Or perhaps her manager Svengallop, but we haven't seen him yet, and it's almost too late to introduce him now.
Great! Sunset is going to help Twilight! She'd going to get a significant role in EG again, like she should. She needs all the screen time she can get, since she got very few lines in E1, and probably won't be able to appear outside of EG.
(Sunset: “Why don't Fluttershy, Pinkie, Spike, and I follow Chestnut Magnifico and see if we can find anything out?”) You're taking Pinkie Pie and two other people on a stealth mission? Are you crazy?
(“My geode gives me super speed”) Ah. So just getting superpowers by ponying up like in EG3 wasn't enough, you just had to add that line to the script to acknowledge EG4. I don't like this. You should just have kept the episodes happening between EG3 and EG4 in universe if you want to use the existing stories.
The cupcake fountain power was in you all the time, Pinkie!
Haha, Sunset is dressed up as the Mane-iac.
Wait, the mysterious cloaked figure has the pendant Twilight has got from Lord Tirek? How is that even here? Also, pity that they don't have the superpowers of the actual Power Ponies, like Pinkie's super-speed to catch up with the cloaked guy and Applejack's psychic rope control for getting out of the rope net animal trap (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0556.html).
Oh I see, the actress's name is Chestnut, and she has a … (looks up how the English words for nuts work again for the hundredth time) a hazelnut pendant hanging around her neck, but perhaps it could be a badly drawn chestnut too.
(Security guy leads the cloaked Juniper away. Chestnut enters.) Ah, now she has a nuts pattern on her skirt too. She takes her theme seriously.
This was certainly better than E1, but I'm still not quite satisfied with it. I guess it's a good episode taken alone, but the four EG movies were so awesome it's hard to make anything worthy of them. Oh well.

Thanqol
2017-06-14, 09:27 AM
I hereby declare the opening of Ponythread's first formal World Waifu Wars!

For too long we have held back from declaring the pure love we hold for our waifus, and for too long we have allowed others to have the Wrong Opinions on the Internet. It's time to settle this once and for all!

Obviously Best Waifu: Sunset Shimmer. She's actually criminal levels of waifuisity, holy crap - she is like the ur-waifu from which all other waifus before and since have descended. She's got it all - magical empathy, sexy demon form, leather jacket, blue dress, mind control, tragic backstory, adorkable horse form, guitarist, is horse-legal even if not high school legal - it's like Hasbro sat down in a lab and distilled pure waif into a bacon-haired horse girl.

Clearly Best Waifu: Rainbow Dash. Yeah she's Rainbow Dash and everything that comes with that (loud, competitive, Rainbow Dash, etc, etc). But she's also the one who'd always be fun. Applejack's idea of a hot date would be washing the dishes, Fluttershy seems cute in theory but shyness is just another word for bad at conversation, Rarity - who needs the drama? Rainbow Dash's defining trait is that she's always up for anything and if you can phrase it in the form of a bet or a dare you can get her into any hobby.

Also holy crap that skintight superhero outfit wow

Secret Best Waifu: I think Sugarcoat would be hilarious and productive to have around. Saying what you think isn't easy because it means you've got to be smart enough to know exactly what you think before you say it. I admire that kind of decisiveness.

Manga Shoggoth
2017-06-14, 09:30 AM
Well, once I was awake I was a little more receptive to the shorts, and yes they got better in order

Dance Magic: Apart from a few hilarious lines this was mostly a run-of-the-mill thing; nothing particularly brilliant, but nothing dire either.

I did rather like the Shadowbolts in this one - particularly their honest assessment of their shortcomings in the cafe and seeing that they are at least trying to go straight, and even if they aren't too clear on how to do it yet they are at least able to admit they are going wrong and they don't want to be doing that now.

Movie Magic: A lot more fun. I didn't care much for the "Power Ponies" bit as I don't like the names being taken across like that (the "horse" naming theme makes no sense in a "human" world).

Mirror Magic: Probably the best one of the three. The Equestria scene was quite well done, and better than I expected.

Pilum
2017-06-14, 10:11 AM
They were fun enough, though I was rushed and distracted watching them, especially the third so I've not got much to say, except that for some reason I didn't think Sunny looked good as a pony. There was something ... off about her mane (yeah yeah, insert "Lesson Zero" joke here!)

Rater202
2017-06-14, 10:21 AM
Tracking post.

Would anyone suggest the specials for somebody with a lot on his to-watch list?

b_jonas
2017-06-14, 10:53 AM
And the third episode.
Does the title mean we'll see the pony universe again, and learn about its connection with the EG universe? I'm not sure if that would be a good thing or a bad thing.

EG5 E3: Mirror Magic, thoughts as I watch.
(Juniper is angry at the Rainbooms.) Continuity with the previous two episodes! Yes!
(Juniper finds a magic mirror that shows her as a different human.) Wow. What magic is that?
(Sunset: “Dear Princess Twighlight!”) YES! Yes yes yes yes yes! Finally!
(“Ran out of pages in my journal.”) Oh! The magic item is out of charges! And it's a spellbook, so it's not easy to recharge either. She'll have to return to Equestria, find two new spellbooks, magically connect them, and personally deliver it to Twilight Sparkle because she doesn't trust the mailpony!
(Sunset: “I'm constantly thinking about things going wrong, even when they aren't.” Fluttershy: “Ooh, like... like what things?”) “An ancient castle is no place for a bunny. He could get hit by falling debris, or the floor could give out under him! Oh! He could be trapped in a dark place with no way out!” (a few years later) “What if we encounter something terrifying and need to get away quickly? All those layers could slow me down, or worse, make me trip!” Yeah, I can see why Fluttershy reacts so scared here. Sunset doesn't even need to fuel her fears by mentioning anything in particular. Whereas Pinkie, she might guess exactly what bad thing will happen, but isn't afraid of it.
Wait, Twilight's writing back? But wasn't the diary out of charges just a minute ago?
(“Princess Twilight wants me to come to Equestria.”) YES! FINALLY! Pity it's in an EG episode so far, and I still don't think it's likely we'll see her in the main series or the MLP feature film, but still, SUNSET SHIMMER IS CALLED TO EQUESTRIA FOR A QUEST! THIS IS WHAT WE'VE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR! … Um, sorry for screaming.
(Juniper watching herself in the mirror where she's signing photos.) Is that the Mirror of Erised?
(“I wish this popcorn would clear itself up!” Mirror magically clears up the popcorn.) Ah no, it's more like that magical portrait painting that gets older while the owner stays the same age.
Ah, the magical portal is there still (or again) in the garden of the school, together with the pedestal it's built into, it's only the horse statue on top of the pedestal that's broken. So that's how they get around that Nightmare Twilight's magic broke the statue in EG3.
Ah yes. I was wondering why Starlight Glimmer was in this episode, it seemed like an idea only a bad fanfic could have, but it makes sense now. Only Starlight Glimmer could have the impertinence to ask to go through the mirror, even if it might put both worlds in grave danger.
(Sunset to Starlight: “Just lay low. Don't draw too much attention…”) Hahaha. Sunset doesn't know Starlight Glimmer yet. Either she was busy with her own problems and didn't keep up with all the things that's happened in Equestria, or maybe this story is between E5 and E6 so she has no way to know yet.
Wow… Starlight can do not just cute puppy eyes stare, but actually puts little hearts in her eyes. She really has a large arsenal of interesting mind-control magic.
Hi, Crusaders!
Aaaaa! The Rainbooms are sucked into the magic mirror! Halp!
And now Juniper got the green flash in her eyes. Is the mirror like that magical spellbook from S4 E23 Inspiration Manifestation, and she's learning how to use it? But then why is Starlight Glimmer here? Maybe this happens between S5 and EG4, but the writers had some foreknowledge about what they wanted to do with Starlight in S6?
… but I think they did learn one thing from S7: the animators are daring to do more crazy faces now.
(Fluttershy: “It's sort of a deep-down-inside freakout.”) Ah yes! Best character moment Fluttershy has had so far.
And now Sunset has the magic mind-reading power she's acquired in EG4, and uses it in a more essential way than just breaking down doors.
Hey look! Juniper is evolving! And she looks ugly because all the good color schemes were taken by other characters and she wanted to have a distinct look.
And she's now ten feet tall not counting the high heels and hair, and everyone is scared of her.
Oh no! So Sunset isn't the one who gets the quest to recharge her diary, instead it's Starlight Glimmer who gets a quest to repair a broken magic item. She has to go back to Equestria through the portal, so she can use her high level unicorn magic to at least conserve the mirror's state and keep Nightmare Juniper away until she figures out something.
Nice ending. I think this still seems like it was written before EG4 and modified to mention the special powers gained in EG4 later, because that chronology works well. This episode did make up for the first one: this is a story I wanted to see in the Equestria Girls series. Thank you, MLP staff.




Would anyone suggest the specials for somebody with a lot on his to-watch list? I can't really answer that without a spoiler. Did you enjoy Equestria Girls 4? If so, maybe you'll like these too. I at least recommend you to watch all four EG movies before the specials, and to watch the three specials in order.

Update:

More thoughts about the third special.
So why exactly did Princess Twilight write that she's urgently summoning Sunset to Equestria? Just to give her a new diary? Seems sketchy. There might be more to this we'll find out in later episodes, if they make them, or perhaps even in the main MLP series (I can dream, right?).


Anyway so villain of the second gets a mirror poisoned by magic and traps the human-Mane6 in the waiting room of my doctor's office. Meanwhile, Sunset goes... back to pony world? And she's on two legs... okay this the best short just for the scene of pony-Sunset being the most adorkable thing ever. Egads, Hasbro. I liked sunset and always thought she should be the team leader, but to see her be a silly pony here just really shoots up her status on my fav list by like, 50 points. Anyway, so Sunny gal gets strong-armed (leg?) into bringing Starlight along, but at least Glim-Glam doesn't ruin anything with weird super powers. Sunset gets captured, Rainbow power apparently fuels evil, Starlight convinces the villain to quit, the Mane6 break free, and all seems well. Done.

Overall it was fun for what it was. A bit adventurous in the second and third shorts which is what I like to see. Wow. what kind of office does your doctor have? I agree with the rest.


Clearly Best Waifu: Rainbow Dash. Yeah she's Rainbow Dash and everything that comes with that (loud, competitive, Rainbow Dash, etc, etc). But she's also the one who'd always be fun. Applejack's idea of a hot date would be washing the dishes, Fluttershy seems cute in theory but shyness is just another word for bad at conversation, Rarity - who needs the drama? Rainbow Dash's defining trait is that she's always up for anything and if you can phrase it in the form of a bet or a dare you can get her into any hobby. So you're ok with Rainbow Dash always getting into something crazy, but not when Rarity is doing that? Hmm.

DigoDragon
2017-06-14, 11:29 AM
It's been almost seven years so far

Dang, has it really been that long?



Continuing with the second Equestria Girls episode.
EG5 E2: Movie Magic, thoughts as I watch.
It's a volcano with continuous lava waterfall. Not as impressive as Lord Vader's Dwarf Fortress style lair on Mustafar in Star Wars: Rogue One, but still nice.
They're making a Daring Do film? How did they get permission for that? Maybe A. K. Yearling, who is personally a friend of Rainbow Dash, has persuaded the publishers. Or am I taking this story too seriously?
Wait, the mysterious cloaked figure has the pendant Twilight has got from Lord Tirek? How is that even here?



--Perhaps they'll add CGI effects later.

--Why would a successful book series NOT have a movie? You're underestimating how Hollywood does things. ;)

--Probably the human world version of it. Or maybe Tirek got his from a tourist shop in human world. :smalltongue:



Applejack's idea of a hot date would be washing the dishes

I'm not sure how you came to this conclusion. :smalltongue: I reckon her idea of a good time is going to a square dancing BBQ event in the country. Which is fun if you're into group dancing and socializing, but if you're more the quite type, probably not so much fun.




I didn't care much for the "Power Ponies" bit as I don't like the names being taken across like that (the "horse" naming theme makes no sense in a "human" world).

The White Horses and The Saddle Club would disagree. :smallwink: Okay, maybe that's a little weak. A different route to go is that there are a ton of examples of animal themed super heroic groups like Thundercats and Silverhawks. Power Ponies in the human world might have a horse-themed secret lair or something.

Our human world really loves animal-themed hero teams.



They were fun enough, though I was rushed and distracted watching them, especially the third so I've not got much to say, except that for some reason I didn't think Sunny looked good as a pony. There was something ... off about her mane (yeah yeah, insert "Lesson Zero" joke here!)

I think they had different animation assets for her mane here than way back in the first movie. It moves a bit different I think?

Forum Explorer
2017-06-14, 12:23 PM
I hereby declare the opening of Ponythread's first formal World Waifu Wars!

For too long we have held back from declaring the pure love we hold for our waifus, and for too long we have allowed others to have the Wrong Opinions on the Internet. It's time to settle this once and for all!

Obviously Best Waifu: Sunset Shimmer. She's actually criminal levels of waifuisity, holy crap - she is like the ur-waifu from which all other waifus before and since have descended. She's got it all - magical empathy, sexy demon form, leather jacket, blue dress, mind control, tragic backstory, adorkable horse form, guitarist, is horse-legal even if not high school legal - it's like Hasbro sat down in a lab and distilled pure waif into a bacon-haired horse girl.

Clearly Best Waifu: Rainbow Dash. Yeah she's Rainbow Dash and everything that comes with that (loud, competitive, Rainbow Dash, etc, etc). But she's also the one who'd always be fun. Applejack's idea of a hot date would be washing the dishes, Fluttershy seems cute in theory but shyness is just another word for bad at conversation, Rarity - who needs the drama? Rainbow Dash's defining trait is that she's always up for anything and if you can phrase it in the form of a bet or a dare you can get her into any hobby.

Also holy crap that skintight superhero outfit wow

Secret Best Waifu: I think Sugarcoat would be hilarious and productive to have around. Saying what you think isn't easy because it means you've got to be smart enough to know exactly what you think before you say it. I admire that kind of decisiveness.

I never really got waifus. Is it just the pony you'd get along with best, or want to be friends with most? (Or have sex with the most? I don't know).

So going by the standard of which pony I'd likely be best friends with?

Rainbow Dash: High action and flight? Yeah, no problem. I'd want to go on adventures to see the Everfree or dragons, and I think Rainbow Dash would be the only pony to want to join me.

Fluttershy: Simply because of a shared interest in animals. I can spend all day working happily with animals, any kind of animal. And that would be enough to bridge the silence.

Rater202
2017-06-14, 01:12 PM
I never really got waifus. Is it just the pony you'd get along with best, or want to be friends with most? (Or have sex with the most? I don't know).

So going by the standard of which pony I'd likely be best friends with?

Rainbow Dash: High action and flight? Yeah, no problem. I'd want to go on adventures to see the Everfree or dragons, and I think Rainbow Dash would be the only pony to want to join me.

Fluttershy: Simply because of a shared interest in animals. I can spend all day working happily with animals, any kind of animal. And that would be enough to bridge the silence.

Going by what I've seen, Waifu is "fictional female you think is cute/hot and want to bone." It's supposed to be "wife" in romanji.

There's also a bit of possessiveness about it--emphasis on "My waifu" and... You know how when the first EQ trailers came out people bitched up and down abou Flash Sentry "stealing" their waifu? Yeah. The concept is really kind of creepy.

The closest thing to the waifu phenomenon I've ever experienced is the case of a pair of psychopathic little girls with tragic backstopries and a similar phenomena with a tragic individual of indeterminate gender. They are cute and tragic and I just want to hug the crazy away and find them families who will love them and won't abuse them or negelct them or make them crazy.(They're from thee differant works and none of them are ponies.)

Manga Shoggoth
2017-06-14, 03:33 PM
The White Horses and The Saddle Club would disagree. :smallwink: Okay, maybe that's a little weak. A different route to go is that there are a ton of examples of animal themed super heroic groups like Thundercats and Silverhawks. Power Ponies in the human world might have a horse-themed secret lair or something.

Our human world really loves animal-themed hero teams.

No, it's not weak. That's a fair arguement for animal names generally. It's just that in EQG they have simply done a drag-and-drop with the names, and I find it particularly jarring and lazy.

While Crystal Prep works as a name (more or less), I don't think Canterlot High or Power Ponies work at all - it simply sounds like they are dragging the names across and forcing them in regardless. I don't think it would have killed them to come up with better - even if horse related - names.

Topaz
2017-06-14, 03:56 PM
Topaz' Traditionally Tardy List of Pony tabletop RPGs:

Hasbro's Officially Licensed My Little Pony Friendship is Magic TRPG --

Tails of Equestria, from River Horse (http://riverhorse.eu/our-games/my-little-pony-tails-of-equestria/) (Facebook Page (https://www.facebook.com/TailsofequestriaMLPRPG/)) (US Publisher (http://ninjadivision.com/my-little-pony-tails-of-equestria/tails-of-equestria/))

Stand-alone Games --

D20 Based:
Courage is Magic (2.2 The Moon Sets Edition!) (http://littlelunamoonmatron.deviantart.com/art/Courage-is-Magic-2-2-The-Moon-Sets-576512647) (Very Heavily Modified D&D4 based)
Heroes of Equestria (http://torturedartist745.deviantart.com/art/Heroes-of-Equestria-MLP-FIM-RPG-300487764) (D&D-ish)
Pony Tales: Aspirations of Harmony (http://ponytales.forumotion.com/) (d20 meets Final Fantasy style)

D6 Based:
Magic of Equestria (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XonNuwLn9OXMUT8aY8ktm64Gw5mNldANMCk2hxWuw2w/edit#heading=h.7c9jm6popo9) (a system in progress designed for play-by-post)
My Little Pony: Roleplaying is Magic, Season Four (http://www.roleplayingismagic.com/)
Pony Tales the RPG (http://catspaw-dtp-services.deviantart.com/gallery/39628312) (Open d6 based)
My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic, The Roleplaying Game (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2zrjqXYhlMcN2Q0M2VmNmMtY2I4Mi00YjA1LTg3NDctYzQ2Z GZiMDQ3ZGFk/edit?hl=en_US&pli=1) (Older game using a D6 dice pool)
Puzzles and Ponies (http://puzzlesandponies.deviantart.com/) (Simple 1d6 game)

D10 based:
Sereg's Pony RPG (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KyPWVXT93Zz8LiZawFxl6kUy0OrdlQYcBBXo-Sv6GKw/edit?pli=1) (D10 dice pool)

D100 (percentile dice) based:
Fallout: Equestria RPG (http://foerpg.blogspot.com/)
Older, different Fallout:Equestria RPG (http://foerpg.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout:Equestria_RPG_Wiki)
Fallout: Equestria PNP (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fsNLwKTWEt0pawFWLRzBtEPfvDQGitGPh8NN3Zk0xo4/edit?pli=1#)

Multiple die type based:
Seeds of Harmony (Translated from Italian) (http://velgarn.tumblr.com/SoH_Material) (Discussion on the Equestria Daily Forum) (https://forums.equestriadaily.com/index.php?/topic/5530-seeds-of-harmony-pnp-rpg/)
My Little Heroes AKA Hooves of Heroes (Original ODT file) (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-UYVjBngS1bbkZPZURZeEo2M28/view?pli=1) (PDF version) (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9S4SDvgQOFZWXNmeHFabXA5MzA/edit?pli=1)
Ponies: The Roleplaying Game (http://msfhwraith.deviantart.com/art/Pony-RPG-First-Draft-289542812)

Dice Pool Based (Ubiquity System):
Roan – Pulp Adventure RPG (https://roanrpg.com/) (Commercial "Equine Action Adventure in a world of Pulp Fiction")

Playing card based:
Friendship is Magic, the Tabletop RPG (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=192468) (GitP forum)

Commercial Card-based Dungeon Adventure Game:
Buck: Legacy (http://buckcardgame.com/)

Supplements for existing systems --

Ponyfinder, a commercial Pony-based Campaign Setting for Pathfinder (http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/125583/Ponyfinder--Campaign-Setting) (Main book, has many supplements)
Pony Races for Pathfinder (Old) (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MTe-vJ44LNepZAT3Eqta5qkxntS8nefLDBpNAf4lFMI/edit)
2012 Fan Pony-Pathfinder thread on Paizo forum (http://paizo.com/forums/dmtz52pj?Prisons-and-PoniesPonyfinder-Feedback-needed#41)

Ponyfinder Setting Book also available for D&D 5th Edition (http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/196772/Ponyfinder--Campaign-Setting--Dawn-of-the-Fifth-Age)
Roleplaying in Equestria for D&D Fifth Edition (http://cheezedoodle96.deviantart.com/art/MLP45E-Dungeons-and-Dragons-With-Ponies-490872927) and associated Bestiary (http://cheezedoodle96.deviantart.com/art/45E-Bestiary-509595168) and Artifact book (http://cheezedoodle96.deviantart.com/art/MLP-45E-Artifacts-of-Equestria-637675868)
Digo's Pony Races for D&D 5e (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1O1Tbgtc66NKq7bgAsYCL5XN9xjQI-hMDJheBuzuqfiY/edit?pli=1) (Discussion on GitP (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?435720-My-Little-Pony-Races-for-D-amp-D-5e))

Ponies for D&D 4e (http://tradwiki.foxxtrot.net/index.php?title=Pony)

Dungeons & Dragons: Friendship is Magic (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-OfetQXp_GcWW5ZZk91d3NOb1k/edit?usp=sharing&pli=1) (Ponies for D&D 3.5)
Pony Races for D&D 3.5 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=182994) (GitP forum)
Ponies! My Little Pony: D20 adaptation (http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=12296.0)

The Conversion Bureau (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XTIaphB0TEF-lqfJpNpPv_-aJ2Al-GErMtVEKEX8FxQ/edit?pli=1) (uses Microlite 20)

Rarity's Marvelous Wish-Granting Chapeaux (http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?723865-Chuubo-s-MLP-FIM-Rarity-s-Marvelous-Wish-Granting-Chapeaux) (RPGnet forum, FiM using The Chuubo's Marvelous Wish-Granting Engine RPG (https://www.facebook.com/chuuborpg).)

The Savage World of My Little Pony (http://giftkrieg23.deviantart.com/gallery/30436047) (uses Savage Worlds)

My Little Pony meets Exalted tumblr (http://tabletop-friendship.tumblr.com/)

Shadowtrot by Digo Dragon (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TFhVVeeO3tLqh54yTvjfg8vSiMApEpO-fa8CWjOMf74/edit?usp=sharing) (uses Shadowrun 4e) (Original Nightmare Run (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LOuIkf_znWXX8ThyW9h9C_hmiHKNSvNWpSuyhBh5KVg/edit?pli=1))

The Mane Six for FATE Accelerated (http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?692218-%28FAE%29-Pimp-My-Our-FAE-Characters!&p=16879846#post16879846) (RPGnet forum)

MLP:FiM for Burning Engine/Mouse Guard (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1N_EM9zHOwJ3VL2WY5DsQ0kf8STuNi6n_4t6jsSMkNEY/edit?pli=1) (Discussion on RPGnet (http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?709683-Mouse-Guard-BW-MLP-Litany-of-Responsibilities-o-Winter-Wrap-Up-Winter-Wrap-Up!-o))

Unknown Ponies: Failure is Awesome (http://lurkingrhythmically.blogspot.com/p/unknown-ponies-failure-is-awesome.html) (uses Unknown Armies)

Don't Rest Your Hooves (http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Don%27t_Rest_Your_Hooves) (uses Don't Rest Your Head)
Don't Hate Your Friends (http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?648876-DRYH-My-Little-Pony-FIM-Don-t-Hate-Your-Friends) (Don't Rest Your Head hack, RPGnet forum)

My Little Legend (http://www.ruleofcool.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/My-Little-Legend.pdf) (uses the Legend RPG (https://s3.amazonaws.com/det_1/Legend.pdf) from Rule of Cool RPGs)

Ponies for Oz (http://fdouglaswall.blogspot.com/2013/04/adventures-in-equestria.html) (uses Adventures in Oz: Fantasy Roleplaying Beyond the Yellow Brick Road)

Further contributions and updates welcome!

Pendulous
2017-06-14, 04:09 PM
Secret Best Waifu: I think Sugarcoat would be hilarious and productive to have around. Saying what you think isn't easy because it means you've got to be smart enough to know exactly what you think before you say it. I admire that kind of decisiveness.

Maybe a sort of Rosa from Brooklyn Nine-Nine. Who happens to be my favorite character from that show.

DigoDragon
2017-06-14, 05:16 PM
The Cuteness. Shall Last.
http://pre09.deviantart.net/97e4/th/pre/i/2017/165/7/a/opposites_attract_by_tomatocoup-dbcpg7e.png (http://tomatocoup.deviantart.com/art/Opposites-Attract-686470730)


No, it's not weak. That's a fair arguement for animal names generally. It's just that in EQG they have simply done a drag-and-drop with the names, and I find it particularly jarring and lazy.

While Crystal Prep works as a name (more or less), I don't think Canterlot High or Power Ponies work at all - it simply sounds like they are dragging the names across and forcing them in regardless. I don't think it would have killed them to come up with better - even if horse related - names.

I have no problems with the name dropping, but I can see your side about needing some more creativity to give this other world a little more individuality than "ponies with fingers"
:3

digiman619
2017-06-14, 05:36 PM
The Cuteness. Shall Last.
http://pre09.deviantart.net/97e4/th/pre/i/2017/165/7/a/opposites_attract_by_tomatocoup-dbcpg7e.png (http://tomatocoup.deviantart.com/art/Opposites-Attract-686470730)

I'm not the only one who saw a face with their eyes and the negative space, right?

It's been almost seven years so far
We've been visiting Equestria.
And we'd like some more of you to know
About our little pony show
So may we introduce to you
A happy little forum place
It's Miss Cheerilee's Lonely Hearts Club thread!

https://media.giphy.com/media/cmkRA52ITooa4/giphy.gif

b_jonas
2017-06-14, 05:36 PM
--Why would a successful book series NOT have a movie? You're underestimating how Hollywood does things. ;) This was at the start of the episode. At that point all we saw on the screen was one villain, one bearded director, the seven Rainbooms and Spike. It looked as if the Rainbooms were making a Daring Do movie, which is what I didn't understand. It did become clear shortly after the opening title that they aren't.

Miltonian
2017-06-14, 06:02 PM
As promised a while ago, I started a DnD 5e game using this (http://cheezedoodle96.deviantart.com/art/MLP45E-Dungeons-and-Dragons-With-Ponies-490872927) supplement. I can happily report that the book works wonderfully, at least for the group I have. So if you ever feel the urge to, I can recommend it.

However, now I am trying to learn GURPS 4e. And to that end, I have put together a little game for the playgrounders, also pony-based. If anyone's interested, here's the link.

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?527361-Celestia-s-Finest

DigoDragon
2017-06-14, 06:41 PM
However, now I am trying to learn GURPS 4e. And to that end, I have put together a little game for the playgrounders, also pony-based. If anyone's interested, here's the link.

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?527361-Celestia-s-Finest

http://mylittlefacewhen.com/media/f/img/mlfw7481-ae269c413e7ac0cc338dff0c6e691c5a_2.gif

A not-D&D/fantasy pony game?! This is truly a rare gem. I shall check this out (gotta find my 4e book).


Bacon pony!
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-M0lRZPSj8Xg/WUGvqfFvKjI/AAAAAAACcko/f6WMP8ZjJDgi489cBEV_7xPOjmQVo3rWQCHMYCw/s650/SunsetshimmerbyMarenlicious1497477002241.png

Miltonian
2017-06-14, 08:52 PM
http://mylittlefacewhen.com/media/f/img/mlfw7481-ae269c413e7ac0cc338dff0c6e691c5a_2.gif

A not-D&D/fantasy pony game?! This is truly a rare gem. I shall check this out (gotta find my 4e book).


I needed that gif. Thank you.

Topaz
2017-06-14, 10:20 PM
As promised a while ago, I started a DnD 5e game using this (http://cheezedoodle96.deviantart.com/art/MLP45E-Dungeons-and-Dragons-With-Ponies-490872927) supplement. I can happily report that the book works wonderfully, at least for the group I have. So if you ever feel the urge to, I can recommend it.
That's awesome!


However, now I am trying to learn GURPS 4e. And to that end, I have put together a little game for the playgrounders, also pony-based. If anyone's interested, here's the link.

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?527361-Celestia-s-Finest

Pony with GURPS, eh? That's a new on on me; if you end up posting any templates or house rules for it let me know so I can add it to the Pony TRPG List. :smallbiggrin:

Miltonian
2017-06-14, 11:02 PM
Pony with GURPS, eh? That's a new on on me; if you end up posting any templates or house rules for it let me know so I can add it to the Pony TRPG List. :smallbiggrin:

I can do that!


UNIVERSAL

Damage Resistance 1: (5 Points) From pelt.

Arms: (-13 points)
Hooves: (3 points) +1 per die to kick damage. Feet get +1 DR.
Foot Manipulators: (-6 points)
Short: (-10 points)

Extra Arm (Mouth): (5 Points)
Short (-50%)
No Physical Attack (-50%)
All one-handed weapons and tools allowed. (+50%)

Small Talent Level 1 (Cutie Mark): (5 points) 6 related skills gain a +1 bonus, +1 to reaction rolls, and 10% reduction in time to learn these skills.

Horizontal (-10): Take up two squares on the battle map. -1 damage per die on a kick.

TOTAL: -7 points


PEGASUS

Flight (36 Points): Winged, Small winged (but can still gain lift) -10%

Walk on Air: (8 points)
Clouds only (-60%)

Manual Weather Manipulation: (15 points) Ability to 'move' weather. Cannot create it. Requires Meteorology skill roll, depending on difficulty. Can default

Magic Resistance Level I: (2 Points) -1 to all rolls to cast spells on the subject. Cannot learn Magery.

Easy to Kill Level 2: (-4 points) Light bones.

TOTAL: 48

Optional: Batpony. Darkvision (25 points, see in darkness),
Fangs: (2 points) thrust-1 impaling damage.




EARTH PONY:

+2 ST (20 Points)

Lifting ST Rank II: (6 points) +2 ST for the purposes of calculating lift and applying steady pressure (such as choking during a grapple)

Striking ST I: (5 points) +1 ST for strike and thrust damage.

High Pain Threshold: (10 Points) Never suffer shock penalties. +3 to avoid knock-down or stunning. +3 to resist torture.

Magic Resistance Level I: (2 Points) -1 to all rolls to cast spells on the subject. Cannot learn Magery.

Plant Empathy: (5 points) Roll against IQ to sense health of a plant. Can influence sentient plants.

TOTAL: 48


UNICORN

+1 Int (20 points)

Magery Level I: (15 Points) Allows rolling to sense magical items on sight and touch. Add magery level to IQ rolls for spellcasting. Time to learn new spells reduced by 10%.

Striker: Horn (5 points)
Limited Arc(Straight ahead) -40%)
(Close reach, thrust damage +1 (per die), Impaling)
(To hit: Roll against DX or Brawling)
(Parry: Roll against either (DX/2)+3 or Brawling parry)

Telekinesis Level IV: (16 Points) 10 meter range. ST 4 for purposes of use.
Visible (-20%)

TOTAL: 46




NEOCORNS (Added to either unicorn or pegasus race).

Universal: (4 Points)
Extended Lifespan: (2 points) Age category length doubled.
Longevity: (2 points) Fail aging rolls only on a 17-18.

Pegasus-Born (+16 points)
Magery Level 0: (5 points) Can detect magic items on sight and touch.
Striker: (5 points) As listed in unicorn entry
Telekinesis Level II: (8 points) 10 meter range. ST 2
Remove Magic Resistance (-2 points)

Unicorn-Born (+28 Points)
Walk on Air: (8 Points) Clouds only.
Flight: (20 points) Small Wings, Cannot Hover

Deadly
2017-06-15, 08:35 AM
I thought they were fun, and won't mind it if they keep making them. So long as it doesn't mean less pony, of course, but I assume there are no plans to stop producing pony episodes. I seem to recall confirmation of a season 8 not long ago.

It's interesting, however, to see how different they feel from pony episodes. They have the same 20 minute format, but it's like a completely different viewing experience somehow.

Sunset returning to Equestria, though briefly, was the highlight of the three, hooves down. Seeing her stumble around on two legs was adorably fun.

Found Juniper's about-face in the third a little too easy, but that's a common aspect of both FiM and EqG.


It's been almost seven years so far
We've been visiting Equestria.
And we'd like some more of you to know
About our little pony show
So may we introduce to you
A happy little forum place
It's Miss Cheerilee's Lonely Hearts Club thread!

My god. How does times move so fast? When I was a kid, seven years would have been an eternity. Now it seems barely any time at all.


I hereby declare the opening of Ponythread's first formal World Waifu Wars!

For too long we have held back from declaring the pure love we hold for our waifus, and for too long we have allowed others to have the Wrong Opinions on the Internet. It's time to settle this once and for all!

Obviously Best Waifu: Sunset Shimmer. She's actually criminal levels of waifuisity, holy crap - she is like the ur-waifu from which all other waifus before and since have descended. She's got it all - magical empathy, sexy demon form, leather jacket, blue dress, mind control, tragic backstory, adorkable horse form, guitarist, is horse-legal even if not high school legal - it's like Hasbro sat down in a lab and distilled pure waif into a bacon-haired horse girl.

Clearly Best Waifu: Rainbow Dash. Yeah she's Rainbow Dash and everything that comes with that (loud, competitive, Rainbow Dash, etc, etc). But she's also the one who'd always be fun. Applejack's idea of a hot date would be washing the dishes, Fluttershy seems cute in theory but shyness is just another word for bad at conversation, Rarity - who needs the drama? Rainbow Dash's defining trait is that she's always up for anything and if you can phrase it in the form of a bet or a dare you can get her into any hobby.

Also holy crap that skintight superhero outfit wow

Secret Best Waifu: I think Sugarcoat would be hilarious and productive to have around. Saying what you think isn't easy because it means you've got to be smart enough to know exactly what you think before you say it. I admire that kind of decisiveness.

Sunset? Hmm, I've never actually given her waifusity any thought, but I think you're right, she would be a pretty great date. Maybe, in fact, the best.

Rainbow Dash is the dream girl, but I would never be able to keep up with her or keep her attention. I'd just be standing there, dreaming of her, and she'd race past without even noticing me. I wouldn't even get her attention. It'd be like a sloth trying to catch the eye of a lightning bolt. Forget about it.

Rarity ... I feel like she's not fully appreciated. I could live with her drama, I'm sure.

Of the Shadow Bolts, I have to disagree. Sunny Flare is the one for me. The lack of art made of her is a grave, grave disappointment.

https://derpicdn.net/img/2017/6/8/1456771/full.jpeg

Aotrs Commander
2017-06-15, 09:55 AM
Tremble with fear, ponyhtrad, for in the words of Cloister the great, I have returnethéd.



That was...a mixed holiday. The caravan fridge broke the night before, in the morning when Dad had left the car out so that the buggers at social services next door don't park all over the road he discovered the door had been badly dented by some pillock (no details left, natch...) - my door, obvously - and yesterday is ceased to actually open from the inside; the dog very carefully leaned over the barrier to be sick all over my stuff (fortunately nothing electronic); the caravan loo leaked when Mum had a loo stop on the way there... And that was the first day. It's been that sort of week, right up to Mum getting home and finding Gardener's World (where we are tomorrow) had not taken her pennies for the tickets, so we shall have to get some tomorrow morning (after having - as usual - seven bells of password trouble with her bank again).

No pictures, fortunately for you, there wasn't anything especially interesting (or it was too windy for me - with all the other hiccups -0 to want to dig the ponies out).

Still... the house and ponythread are still standing when we got back, so there's that.



Been re-reading the Belgariad again ('s been ages) and it occurs to me it's probably as well Twilight doesn't here of a universe where people research things for centuries, otherwise she'd be busting down dimensional barriers before you couldn't say "be not..."



What'd I miss?

Thanqol
2017-06-15, 10:00 AM
What'd I miss?

declare your waifu

do it now

the internet must know

b_jonas
2017-06-15, 10:02 AM
What'd I miss? All three episodes of Equestria Girls season 5 were released on the same day, so we had a lot of fun watching.

digiman619
2017-06-15, 10:07 AM
Been re-reading the Belgariad again ('s been ages) and it occurs to me it's probably as well Twilight doesn't here of a universe where people research things for centuries, otherwise she'd be busting down dimensional barriers before you couldn't say "be not..."

Except that it's kinda inferred that Belgarath's centuries fo research have only confrimed things we already know. (Plate tectonics proably the most scientific among them). Plus, his notes would no doubt infuriate Twilight as he doesn't strike me as someone who takes proper notes, but rather as someone who is conversational and impresice about it.

Also, do yourself a favor and skip the Malloreon. It fails to keep up with the original (and that's about as nice a thing as I have to say aobut it).

Aotrs Commander
2017-06-15, 10:13 AM
declare your waifu

do it now

the internet must know

I think it is pretty obvious that the concept of waifu and Bleakbane are mutually exclusive...





All three episodes of Equestria Girls season 5 were released on the same day, so we had a lot of fun watching.

Hopefully I can dig some links out of EQD, then...




Except that it's kinda inferred that Belgarath's centuries fo research have only confrimed things we already know. (Plate tectonics proably the most scientific among them). Plus, his notes would no doubt infuriate Twilight as he doesn't strike me as someone who takes proper notes, but rather as someone who is conversational and impresice about it.

Also, do yourself a favor and skip the Malloreon. It fails to keep up with the original (and that's about as nice a thing as I have to say aobut it).

Eddings is one of my favourite authors, actually. I've read all of Edding's books more than once (the Belgariad/Malloreon and Elenium/Tamuli) several times (anbd I consider all twelve books of the former to be basically one series, which ranks with Zhan's Thrawn trilogy as my all-time favourites, only a step behind Lords of the Rings); with the sad exception of the gods quartet, which I never even got the last book of because even I was bored. The style didn't work, and he didn't even manage, towards the end, to make the enemies a credible threat. I find it such a shame that he went out on such a disappointing note.

Quiver
2017-06-15, 10:46 AM
...I've been outta the pony fandom for a while.

Can someone explain what's going on with these Equestria Girls stuff? Episodes? Shorts? New film coming soon?

Adderbane
2017-06-15, 11:09 AM
...I've been outta the pony fandom for a while.

Can someone explain what's going on with these Equestria Girls stuff? Episodes? Shorts? New film coming soon?

They just released 3 episodes recently. I don't think they're doing a EG movie this year since they're busy with the other movie.

They were decent though I thought Sunset's new hair coloring looked off on her pony self.

Alabenson
2017-06-15, 11:26 AM
declare your waifu

do it now

the internet must know

It's hard for me to pick just one, but Twilight Sparkle and Applejack are the standout choices for me, with Flitter as chief background-pony waifu.


Eddings is one of my favourite authors, actually. I've read all of Edding's books more than once (the Belgariad/Malloreon and Elenium/Tamuli) several times (anbd I consider all twelve books of the former to be basically one series, which ranks with Zhan's Thrawn trilogy as my all-time favourites, only a step behind Lords of the Rings); with the sad exception of the gods quartet, which I never even got the last book of because even I was bored. The style didn't work, and he didn't even manage, towards the end, to make the enemies a credible threat. I find it such a shame that he went out on such a disappointing note.

I have to whole-heatedly agree with you about Edding's early work (though I think I'd count the Belgariad/Malloreon and Elenium/Tamuli as separate series. I remember discovering Eddings in highschool and to this day he remains one of my favorite authors of all time.
That being said, though, having read the gods quartet you sadly didn't miss much.
In the end the whole conflict is resolved with time-travel shenanigans rendering it so that the previous three books never happened, and it was handled in the most clumsy anti-climatic manner possible. Which, unfortunately, was par for the course for the series as a whole.

Derjuin
2017-06-15, 11:35 AM
Declaring my Waifu on my W41F-U forms...

Obviously best: Celestia.

Clearly best: Celestia.

Secret best: Celestia.

If I can't pick the same pony, it's Celestia/Luna/Pinkie I suppose.

digiman619
2017-06-15, 11:59 AM
Eddings is one of my favourite authors, actually. I've read all of Edding's books more than once (the Belgariad/Malloreon and Elenium/Tamuli) several times (anbd I consider all twelve books of the former to be basically one series, which ranks with Zhan's Thrawn trilogy as my all-time favourites, only a step behind Lords of the Rings); with the sad exception of the gods quartet, which I never even got the last book of because even I was bored. The style didn't work, and he didn't even manage, towards the end, to make the enemies a credible threat. I find it such a shame that he went out on such a disappointing note.


I have to whole-heatedly agree with you about Edding's early work (though I think I'd count the Belgariad/Malloreon and Elenium/Tamuli as separate series. I remember discovering Eddings in highschool and to this day he remains one of my favorite authors of all time.
That being said, though, having read the gods quartet you sadly didn't miss much.

I've read most of his books, and the cut-off point for me it the Belgariad. Everything after it has a recurring theme of "capricious female characters and the male characters who are slaves to her whims". It's especially bad if the woman has any position of power, as the medieval lands his stories all take place in have feudal chains of command hard-baked in. I can't prove it, but I'd bet a pretty penny that we saw the influence of his wife interfering with his writing; I'd also bet the only reason that Belgarath the Sorcerer was relatively free from such meddling is that he placated her by making her officially co-author for all later books.

Plus, while it's well-written, the ideas behind The Malloreon sound like bad fanfiction. Remember the Ultimate Choice that would determine the fate of the universe? Well, now there's a new Ultimate Choice that will determine the fate of the universe for real this time, guys. I've also introduced love interests for the single heroes, including one that was only assumed dead but was actually alive and hiding for centuries. Also, the villian is a woman whose skin tone is the night sky. ORIGINAL CHARACTER, DO NOT STEAL!

DigoDragon
2017-06-15, 12:21 PM
Tremble with fear, ponyhtrad, for in the words of Cloister the great, I have returnethéd.

Huzzah! Our planet's destroyer has returned!! :D

http://orig08.deviantart.net/8f96/f/2013/133/b/6/derpy_throne_by_bloodrizer-d65609k.jpg



Still... the house and ponythread are still standing when we got back, so there's that.

Yeah, I'm rather happy that things stayed calm for the most part around here. Sucks about your camper falling apart like a... thing without glue or something. Locally for me it's just been raining every day. Kinda getting old when you have to mow your lawn weekly. Oh look, dark clouds already...

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/265/023/533.png



Obviously best: Celestia.
Clearly best: Celestia.
Secret best: Celestia.

If I can't pick the same pony, it's Celestia/Luna/Pinkie I suppose.

Do you need more than one?


I'm not sure I see a difference between Obviously and Clearly and whatever other ones there are. :smalltongue:

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Manga Shoggoth
2017-06-15, 12:40 PM
I always found Eddings a mixed bag.

The Belgariad and Elenium were good stories, but having read the former I was starting to pick up on his style in the latter.

Then he started producing sequels to them that suffered from the usual problem of effectively rewriting the previous story to get the new one to work.

Then there was Athulus, which managed to encapsulate all the character flaws and bad writing into one book, and the Elder Gods, where I read the first book and stopped, because the overload of character and plot was too little for me.

Aotrs Commander
2017-06-15, 01:11 PM
I'll grant you that Eddings does tend to write just a little bit sort of on the female-side of sexist, which I find a bit aggrevating in excess (more so now than twenty years ago when I first read it, I'm much more equalist now than then) - but no more than I find, say Batman's sense of superiority aggrevating. And the banter is entertaining enough. (I am, however, not hugely fond of Polgara or Ce'Nedra, come to that. I suspect were we - especially in the former case - ever to meet, we would barely be able to stand being in the same room as one another, even leaving aside the alighnment issues. I have noted that Applejack and I would get along about as well as matter and antimatter (and not in a good way) and polgara is sort like AJ but worse.) Edding's earlier works tended to be better (though I don't find the Malleroan or the Tamuli to be lesser than the Belgariad and the Elenium myself); the Belgariad was slightly better than the Elenium; Althalus was not quite as good, and I could see Eddings was just starting to get a bit repetative in his stock of characters. The Elder Gods, I got through to book three and gave up.

I don't remember much about them, actually, except that they were repetative. Except for the single most egregious smug-female-moment (which is a bit of A Thing) in his entire works. I forget the names of the characters, but they were having some sort of dicussion about needing wood for building some siege engines of something. And of of the female characters smugly suggested that the legionaries or whatever have "all those shapr swords, don't they?" With the implication that they should use the legionary's weapons to cut trees down.

At which point, I dearly wished to be there so to say "yes, of course, duck. And then, after we have succeeded in breaking all of the weapons of our legionaries, what do you propose we do...? Swords are not wood axes. Hell, battle axes are not wood axes. And, I think you'll find, reforging all the weapons you just broke will require more wood that you have gained by breaking the weapons in the first place. Next suggestion?"

That actually may have been the bit that broke me, actually.

t209
2017-06-15, 01:49 PM
Well, finished with Gundam Seed this month.
Now I'll imagine Flay saying "This is the worst possible thing".

http://img15.deviantart.net/2034/i/2013/198/1/c/va_randomness_by_great_5-d6dy4o4.png

meto30
2017-06-15, 02:58 PM
I hereby declare the opening of Ponythread's first formal World Waifu Wars!

For too long we have held back from declaring the pure love we hold for our waifus, and for too long we have allowed others to have the Wrong Opinions on the Internet. It's time to settle this once and for all!

First of all, I wholly approve of your choice of Waifu, dear sir. I salute you.

My declared Waifu, seriously best Waifu among all the Waifus I have ever declared
http://orig09.deviantart.net/5cc5/f/2017/166/c/6/sunset_shimmer_72_minutes_by_meto30-dbctgdv.jpg
The fact that I did that on short notice (literally, I started writing this post, decided I needed a picture, thought against re-using a piece I already did, and executed a new one on the spot) would prove my dedication to my waifu, I think.

But since a new way of looking at the characters, as friendship candidate, has been suggested, here's my answer to that as well: Shining Armour. I'd love to have him at my gaming group; think of all the D&D fun I'd have!


Declaring my Waifu on my W41F-U forms...

Obviously best: Celestia.

Clearly best: Celestia.

Secret best: Celestia.

If I can't pick the same pony, it's Celestia/Luna/Pinkie I suppose.
This (and your profile picture) inspires me to draw Princest fan art...

On the matter of why people declare Waifus, at least in my case it's a sort of "My name is Meto and I support this character" deal. AFAIK, in the East Asian cultural sphere (especially Japan), fan club are built around the whole "Waifu" and "Husbando" phenomenon (with Idol group fan clubs posting birthday celebratory ads on national radio and subway station billboards), so I believe myself and my compatriots are just utilising that "way of showing love" for our Bronydom stuff. I'd presume that cultural phenomenon then jumped cultural spheres along with the whole Anime thing.

PS: Regarding the East Asian way of Fangirl/boy-ing, "for-fun" arguments on the relative attractiveness of characters usually resemble the form parents argue among each other about whose child is better than everyone else's (something really common in East Asia, I tell you). As someone who actually partakes in the phenomenon, I think that resemblance is deliberate, so basically, my theory is that the whole "Waifu" thing is just a carry-over from the East Asian way of showing support.

PPS: The Japanese form of the phenomenon described above, which closely resembles the methods and rituals of the Western "waifu/husbando" phenomenon, is the "Ore no Yome(My bride)" declaration. The primary difference would be the heavy dose of self-deprecation inherent in the "Ore no Yome" phenomenon: the point is to be as cringy and icky as possible on purpose, in order to show "to what depths I have descended in my obsession over this character, all of you can't beat me!". This could be considered related to other similar phenomena in Japanese Otaku culture, such as "Pero Pero(a term denoting support, but literally is an onomatopoeic word describing licking something)" and "Itasha(literally sick-car, decorating your car with a certain character to such an extent it transcends all understanding of decency, or temperance)". That the Western Waifu phenomenon lacks this factor could be taken as evidence against my submitted theory.

PPPS: The Korean ritual that corresponds to the Japanese "Ore no Yome" would be "Choe-ae-ke", meaning "Favourite Character" literally. Note that this term has nothing to do with marriage, unlike Ore no Yome and Waifu. The Koreans do use the terms "Nae Booin(My Wife)" and "Nae Shinboo(My Bride)" quite similarly to the Japanese use of Ore no Yome, but the rarity of their use and the context associated with the terms suggests that they are direct appropriation of the Japanese term itself and should not be taken as the Korean prevalent form of this transnational phenomenon. The Choe-ae-ke ritual is however practically indistinguishable from Ore no Yome, mind you. I think the difference is there because marriage in Korean cultural understanding has very little attractiveness in this context. Korean usage of the term Booin is very much in the "ball and chain" category, something that is also notable in Japanese cultural understanding (hence why the Japanese Otaku culture uses Yome, bride, and not wife).

Thanqol
2017-06-15, 06:25 PM
I've read most of his books, and the cut-off point for me it the Belgariad. Everything after it has a recurring theme of "capricious female characters and the male characters who are slaves to her whims". It's especially bad if the woman has any position of power, as the medieval lands his stories all take place in have feudal chains of command hard-baked in. I can't prove it, but I'd bet a pretty penny that we saw the influence of his wife interfering with his writing; I'd also bet the only reason that Belgarath the Sorcerer was relatively free from such meddling is that he placated her by making her officially co-author for all later books.

I was wondering why the Eddings discussion was leaving a bad taste in my mouth but it had been so long since I'd read the books that I couldn't remember why until I read this. I mean, I read like 20 books of his and presumably enjoyed some of them but I do remember a bit of a downhill slope there.

Kind of reminds me of David Gemmal, who was a man with one really good book in his system that he happened to write 30 times.


First of all, I wholly approve of your choice of Waifu, dear sir. I salute you.

My declared Waifu, seriously best Waifu among all the Waifus I have ever declared
http://orig09.deviantart.net/5cc5/f/2017/166/c/6/sunset_shimmer_72_minutes_by_meto30-dbctgdv.jpg
The fact that I did that on short notice (literally, I started writing this post, decided I needed a picture, thought against re-using a piece I already did, and executed a new one on the spot) would prove my dedication to my waifu, I think.

But since a new way of looking at the characters, as friendship candidate, has been suggested, here's my answer to that as well: Shining Armour. I'd love to have him at my gaming group; think of all the D&D fun I'd have!


This (and your profile picture) inspires me to draw Princest fan art...

On the matter of why people declare Waifus, at least in my case it's a sort of "My name is Meto and I support this character" deal. AFAIK, in the East Asian cultural sphere (especially Japan), fan club are built around the whole "Waifu" and "Husbando" phenomenon (with Idol group fan clubs posting birthday celebratory ads on national radio and subway station billboards), so I believe myself and my compatriots are just utilising that "way of showing love" for our Bronydom stuff. I'd presume that cultural phenomenon then jumped cultural spheres along with the whole Anime thing.

PS: Regarding the East Asian way of Fangirl/boy-ing, "for-fun" arguments on the relative attractiveness of characters usually resemble the form parents argue among each other about whose child is better than everyone else's (something really common in East Asia, I tell you). As someone who actually partakes in the phenomenon, I think that resemblance is deliberate, so basically, my theory is that the whole "Waifu" thing is just a carry-over from the East Asian way of showing support.

PPS: The Japanese form of the phenomenon described above, which closely resembles the methods and rituals of the Western "waifu/husbando" phenomenon, is the "Ore no Yome(My bride)" declaration. The primary difference would be the heavy dose of self-deprecation inherent in the "Ore no Yome" phenomenon: the point is to be as cringy and icky as possible on purpose, in order to show "to what depths I have descended in my obsession over this character, all of you can't beat me!". This could be considered related to other similar phenomena in Japanese Otaku culture, such as "Pero Pero(a term denoting support, but literally is an onomatopoeic word describing licking something)" and "Itasha(literally sick-car, decorating your car with a certain character to such an extent it transcends all understanding of decency, or temperance)". That the Western Waifu phenomenon lacks this factor could be taken as evidence against my submitted theory.

PPPS: The Korean ritual that corresponds to the Japanese "Ore no Yome" would be "Choe-ae-ke", meaning "Favourite Character" literally. Note that this term has nothing to do with marriage, unlike Ore no Yome and Waifu. The Koreans do use the terms "Nae Booin(My Wife)" and "Nae Shinboo(My Bride)" quite similarly to the Japanese use of Ore no Yome, but the rarity of their use and the context associated with the terms suggests that they are direct appropriation of the Japanese term itself and should not be taken as the Korean prevalent form of this transnational phenomenon. The Choe-ae-ke ritual is however practically indistinguishable from Ore no Yome, mind you. I think the difference is there because marriage in Korean cultural understanding has very little attractiveness in this context. Korean usage of the term Booin is very much in the "ball and chain" category, something that is also notable in Japanese cultural understanding (hence why the Japanese Otaku culture uses Yome, bride, and not wife).

Thank you very much for this, it was really interesting!

Though I have to warn you that Shining Armour is an abysmal choice for a gaming buddy. He has a baby now. If you've ever had a gaming friend who's had a baby you'd know it's no gaming for 2 years followed by erratic gaming forever afterwards. All my friends are having babies and it's terrible.

meto30
2017-06-15, 06:40 PM
Thank you very much for this, it was really interesting!

Though I have to warn you that Shining Armour is an abysmal choice for a gaming buddy. He has a baby now. If you've ever had a gaming friend who's had a baby you'd know it's no gaming for 2 years followed by erratic gaming forever afterwards. All my friends are having babies and it's terrible.

Drat, I forgot completely about that accident-maker. That's probably because I haven't watched any episodes since the midpoint of Season 6, and thus I had only one viewing of Flurry Heart (and there she was very forgettable, IMO). In that case I'll probably have to stick with Spike.

Twilight Sparkle: I'll be thoroughly debriefed for my knowledge of human cultures and then forgotten about. She has Sunset for that so I'll be outside her sphere of consciousness.
Rarity: I'd doubt I'll make much of a conversastionist with her so I guess I'll just be recognisable by the sheer amount of clothing I'll have to order from her throughout my stay in Ponyville, assuming this goes on for extended periods of time.
Pinkie Pie: Of course I am her friend! Who says I am not her friend? We are best friends forever ever since I first ended up here! Tell her I said so! Wait, no matter, she's probably listening right now! Hi Pinkie, friend!
Applejack: Could be relation-less or good buddies depending on if I can befriend Big Mac? I do have high hopes on that, but still I'd presume my primary business with Sweet Apple Acres would be with the stallion, and with none of the mares.
Fluttershy: I guess I'll try to stay away out of courtesy?
Rainbow Dash: I'd be actively avoiding her like the plague, I'd presume. This imagination assumes this iteration of "me" has not watched the show MLP and thus there would be no awkwardness from me knowing a lot about the ponies beforehand.

DigoDragon
2017-06-15, 07:10 PM
Waifus?
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-dirB-1o6CIw/WUMUxbL2NxI/AAAAAAACcoc/9FYLdJsNARU8l9vKXE-GwIpwJGU512dswCHMYCw/s650/s7e10EverythingIeverwantedbyluminaura1497568375857 .png


Though I have to warn you that Shining Armour is an abysmal choice for a gaming buddy. He has a baby now. If you've ever had a gaming friend who's had a baby you'd know it's no gaming for 2 years followed by erratic gaming forever afterwards. All my friends are having babies and it's terrible.

Perhaps, but it only gets better each year until they hit that sweet spot age that they get the concepts of gaming and totally join in with some skill. My daughter is 9 and plays a pretty mean game of Mario Kart. ^__^

Desert Sun
2017-06-15, 08:55 PM
Waifus?
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-dirB-1o6CIw/WUMUxbL2NxI/AAAAAAACcoc/9FYLdJsNARU8l9vKXE-GwIpwJGU512dswCHMYCw/s650/s7e10EverythingIeverwantedbyluminaura1497568375857 .png





Ok, you owe me a new monitor for that one! I was drinking when I opened that one.

As for Waifus:
Regal and Responsible: Celestia
Looks/Emotions: Luna
Intellectually/most like me: Twilight
Best Friend/Just because: Sunset

I guess that covers them all....

Miltonian
2017-06-15, 10:08 PM
Behold! The greatest and most powerful of all waifus! (And a seizure warning.)

http://orig02.deviantart.net/3b9c/f/2012/091/0/2/show_us_your_power_trixie_by_ponykillerx-d4uod6o.gif

Accept no substitutes.

Manga Shoggoth
2017-06-16, 02:59 AM
I was wondering why the Eddings discussion was leaving a bad taste in my mouth but it had been so long since I'd read the books that I couldn't remember why until I read this. I mean, I read like 20 books of his and presumably enjoyed some of them but I do remember a bit of a downhill slope there.

Well, that's because until the Elder Gods, Edding's work was enjoyable, even when it was visibly going downhill. The fun in his writing was the way he played the characters off against each other, and the way he deliberately worked with, and occasionally subverted, standard heroic tropes.

While I don't care much for the Mallorian (+ following books) and the Tamuli, they were enjoyable reads at the time and if a reader really liked the Belgariad or Elenium I would still suggest that they read them, with the caution that they aren't as good.

Likewise, The Redemption of Athulus is still enjoyable, just rather creaky once you see how Eddings structures his stories.

The problem was that with the Elder Gods the well had run dry. I couldn't get invested in the characters (his strength), so the rest fell apart.



Kind of reminds me of David Gemmal, who was a man with one really good book in his system that he happened to write 30 times.

Out of interest, which one? I remember The Jerusalem Man and Legend as being quite good, and The Knights of Dark Renown as being OK, but I never saw any of them as being copies of the other.

DigoDragon
2017-06-16, 06:55 AM
Ok, you owe me a new monitor for that one! I was drinking when I opened that one.

Haha, well I'm buying a replacement for my daughter, so I guess I'll look into 2-for-1. ^__^

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-bjUMrVCcbBU/WUMUqKPlhWI/AAAAAAACcn4/_eyKigx_1eQlFJjLl6Sf02qW4ihcbYb_wCHMYCw/s650/differentjobbyTaNa1497568373542.png



Behold! The greatest and most powerful of all waifus! (And a seizure warning.)

http://orig02.deviantart.net/3b9c/f/2012/091/0/2/show_us_your_power_trixie_by_ponykillerx-d4uod6o.gif

Accept no substitutes.

Rock on! I like the cut of your jib.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-MeZMf_WRq0s/WUMUjd_zPiI/AAAAAAACcnk/rstxW6zgIioKXjGJytEeaZr5PqpjAsbCACHMYCw/s650/Applechickbymirroredsea1497568374546.jpg

otakuryoga
2017-06-16, 09:21 AM
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-MeZMf_WRq0s/WUMUjd_zPiI/AAAAAAACcnk/rstxW6zgIioKXjGJytEeaZr5PqpjAsbCACHMYCw/s650/Applechickbymirroredsea1497568374546.jpg

Scootaloo!
you should know by now its rude to sit on someones head

DigoDragon
2017-06-16, 09:30 AM
OMG, this is really well done!

http://pre09.deviantart.net/56bc/th/pre/i/2017/166/2/4/paperpony_by_oinktweetstudios-dbcdrvj.png



Scootaloo!
you should know by now its rude to sit on someones head

Correction, Super Scootaloo. she's got a mask on. ;)

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/169/449/597.jpeg

Derjuin
2017-06-16, 02:20 PM
This (and your profile picture) inspires me to draw Princest fan art...

Do it!

Don't let your dreams be dreams!

Alabenson
2017-06-16, 03:11 PM
This month is starting to make me feel like my family has triggered a gypsy curse of some kind or something. First, my mother falls and shatters her kneecap, which means she's essentially going to be bedridden for over a month. As a result of this I had to take an unpaid day off from work today because the movers who are supposed to take my things down to Florida were supposed to come today, since my father had to take my mother to a follow up doctor's appointment and someone needed to be here. Of course, the mover's couldn't come today because their truck blew its transmission, so now they'll probably have to come on Sunday, after I've already left.

TLDR, I need a hug.

Miltonian
2017-06-16, 03:28 PM
TLDR, I need a hug.

Let me see if I can find someone to help with that...

http://img15.deviantart.net/237f/i/2013/067/a/4/wallpaper_fluttershy_megakind_hug_incoming_by_barr find-d5xbyq9.jpg

In all serious though, that sucks. Not much more I can do across the internet than send happy pictures and well wishes your way, but for what it's worth, you have both from me.

DigoDragon
2017-06-16, 04:38 PM
TLDR, I need a hug.

http://img01.deviantart.net/3098/i/2012/251/1/6/derpy_hooves___love_for_muffins_by_anbolanos91-d5e2hpe.png

Aotrs Commander
2017-06-16, 05:46 PM
This month is starting to make me feel like my family has triggered a gypsy curse of some kind or something. First, my mother falls and shatters her kneecap, which means she's essentially going to be bedridden for over a month. As a result of this I had to take an unpaid day off from work today because the movers who are supposed to take my things down to Florida were supposed to come today, since my father had to take my mother to a follow up doctor's appointment and someone needed to be here. Of course, the mover's couldn't come today because their truck blew its transmission, so now they'll probably have to come on Sunday, after I've already left.

Naturally. Ouch. And I thought my week could have been better. My commiserations.



In a slightly more positive vein, some good news to report for once. While at the gardener's world show today, they had a mechanical horse ride-doofer for the charity riding for the disabled. Mum had a good go on it. (I did not. I've read enough books that go on about the unpleasantness of riding horses for the first time and my pelvis-burn-hole problem is still not quite at 100% which would have put me off, even if I was inclined in the first place...!) It's not quite the first time she's been on a horse for thirty-odd years, but it is almost. And, as we commented, she couldn't have done that this time last year (as some of you may remember, she'd not long had her stroke). In fact, both me and Mum think she's actually better now in most respects than she was before her stroke; for whatever reason - the determination, the re-wiring of the brain or the system reboot essentially - her FM is not nearly as bad as it was before.

Still, I wouldn't recommend "have a stroke" as a treatment for fibromyalgia - bit of a cutting off noses to spite faces sort of thing...!

meto30
2017-06-16, 08:54 PM
This month is starting to make me feel like my family has triggered a gypsy curse of some kind or something. First, my mother falls and shatters her kneecap, which means she's essentially going to be bedridden for over a month. As a result of this I had to take an unpaid day off from work today because the movers who are supposed to take my things down to Florida were supposed to come today, since my father had to take my mother to a follow up doctor's appointment and someone needed to be here. Of course, the mover's couldn't come today because their truck blew its transmission, so now they'll probably have to come on Sunday, after I've already left.

TLDR, I need a hug.


Naturally. Ouch. And I thought my week could have been better. My commiserations.



In a slightly more positive vein, some good news to report for once. While at the gardener's world show today, they had a mechanical horse ride-doofer for the charity riding for the disabled. Mum had a good go on it. (I did not. I've read enough books that go on about the unpleasantness of riding horses for the first time and my pelvis-burn-hole problem is still not quite at 100% which would have put me off, even if I was inclined in the first place...!) It's not quite the first time she's been on a horse for thirty-odd years, but it is almost. And, as we commented, she couldn't have done that this time last year (as some of you may remember, she'd not long had her stroke). In fact, both me and Mum think she's actually better now in most respects than she was before her stroke; for whatever reason - the determination, the re-wiring of the brain or the system reboot essentially - her FM is not nearly as bad as it was before.

Still, I wouldn't recommend "have a stroke" as a treatment for fibromyalgia - bit of a cutting off noses to spite faces sort of thing...!

Hugs for both of ye, I do pray for fortunes to turn for the better.

Thanqol
2017-06-17, 12:19 AM
Out of interest, which one? I remember The Jerusalem Man and Legend as being quite good, and The Knights of Dark Renown as being OK, but I never saw any of them as being copies of the other.

Badass warrior with emotional problems joins heroic nature-worshipping tribal resistance to stand against encroaching evil empire, with help from astrally travelling wizards, until heroic last stand. It's not even analysis, it's a plot point in his books that there are multiple universes with the local evil empire trying to wipe out worship of the Source.

Like, the book is actually really good every time he writes it. But it's always basically the same book.

DigoDragon
2017-06-17, 12:09 PM
To give you an idea of how humid it is today (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-QVm9TdZLzT8/WURhrqNlYqI/AAAAAAACcqg/Y1eFr8D5Qmkbak2eLf6pN1FejsmnhhivACHMYCw/s650/fierydaybynuttystardragon1497653631371.png), my lawnmower's engine was flooded with water. And it was sealed in a plastic tarp. :smallbiggrin:

So pumping the water out of the motor was fun. And by fun I mean mowing the lawn in that much Florida heat is just lethal (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ODtbehvE4sU/WURh8l-2yYI/AAAAAAACcro/Kr67F3da4iA4kx0Jq-9AENHKxGD3lbEugCHMYCw/s650/PillsPillsbyStarArtCreations1497653634809.png) to a non-earth pony. :o

Aotrs Commander
2017-06-17, 12:17 PM
To give you an idea of how humid it is today (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-QVm9TdZLzT8/WURhrqNlYqI/AAAAAAACcqg/Y1eFr8D5Qmkbak2eLf6pN1FejsmnhhivACHMYCw/s650/fierydaybynuttystardragon1497653631371.png), my lawnmower's engine was flooded with water. And it was sealed in a plastic tarp. :smallbiggrin:

So pumping the water out of the motor was fun. And by fun I mean mowing the lawn in that much Florida heat is just lethal (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ODtbehvE4sU/WURh8l-2yYI/AAAAAAACcro/Kr67F3da4iA4kx0Jq-9AENHKxGD3lbEugCHMYCw/s650/PillsPillsbyStarArtCreations1497653634809.png) to a non-earth pony. :o

While doubtless chilly for those of you in hot places by comparison, right here, it is unpleasantly hot and stuffy today as well.

As I'm finally cracking and buying Cities: Skylines Mass Transit, perhaps playing on a snowy map will somewhat alleiviate the heat that my aura doesn't entirely compensate for...

Miltonian
2017-06-17, 12:58 PM
To give you an idea of how humid it is today (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-QVm9TdZLzT8/WURhrqNlYqI/AAAAAAACcqg/Y1eFr8D5Qmkbak2eLf6pN1FejsmnhhivACHMYCw/s650/fierydaybynuttystardragon1497653631371.png), my lawnmower's engine was flooded with water. And it was sealed in a plastic tarp. :smallbiggrin:

So pumping the water out of the motor was fun. And by fun I mean mowing the lawn in that much Florida heat is just lethal (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ODtbehvE4sU/WURh8l-2yYI/AAAAAAACcro/Kr67F3da4iA4kx0Jq-9AENHKxGD3lbEugCHMYCw/s650/PillsPillsbyStarArtCreations1497653634809.png) to a non-earth pony. :o

I feel your pain.

Not figuratively. I live in Central Florida. I used to tell all my Texas friends that it was like if they stepped outside in the heat of the day with a wool blanket over their heads.

Manga Shoggoth
2017-06-17, 04:58 PM
Badass warrior with emotional problems joins heroic nature-worshipping tribal resistance to stand against encroaching evil empire, with help from astrally travelling wizards, until heroic last stand. It's not even analysis, it's a plot point in his books that there are multiple universes with the local evil empire trying to wipe out worship of the Source.

I can't speak for the rest of his work (the three I mentioned are the only ones I have read), but that description as a whole doesn't really fit any of the three books I mentioned.

EDIT: Which makes sense - they are his early work, so while they might contain the individual ideas they are still different enough to be, well, different.

t209
2017-06-17, 06:39 PM
https://derpicdn.net/img/2013/3/26/279726/full.jpg
You know I swear that Gundam Seed Destiny will be an improvement if Gilda is on the team than pink-haired super soldier who somehow fall in love with a guy (http://gundam.wikia.com/wiki/Shinn_Asuka) who killed her sister.
And Kira Yamato being voiced by Ed and Athrun as Double D.
Sorry for Japanese Va but PLANT being led by Whitebeard from One Piece and Master Asia from G Gundam.

gooddragon1
2017-06-17, 09:34 PM
To give you an idea of how humid it is today (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-QVm9TdZLzT8/WURhrqNlYqI/AAAAAAACcqg/Y1eFr8D5Qmkbak2eLf6pN1FejsmnhhivACHMYCw/s650/fierydaybynuttystardragon1497653631371.png), my lawnmower's engine was flooded with water. And it was sealed in a plastic tarp. :smallbiggrin:

So pumping the water out of the motor was fun. And by fun I mean mowing the lawn in that much Florida heat is just lethal (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ODtbehvE4sU/WURh8l-2yYI/AAAAAAACcro/Kr67F3da4iA4kx0Jq-9AENHKxGD3lbEugCHMYCw/s650/PillsPillsbyStarArtCreations1497653634809.png) to a non-earth pony. :o


While doubtless chilly for those of you in hot places by comparison, right here, it is unpleasantly hot and stuffy today as well.

As I'm finally cracking and buying Cities: Skylines Mass Transit, perhaps playing on a snowy map will somewhat alleiviate the heat that my aura doesn't entirely compensate for...

I don't get it, if you guys are going to pick the human race for the extra feat and skill point, why not at least pick the desert variant (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/races/environmentalRacialVariants.htm#desertRaces) for the +4 racial bonus on Fortitude saves made to resist the effects of hot weather if you're going to live there? Doesn't fix everything admittedly, but making the saving throws at a bonus is always nice.


https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/98/98/f8/9898f8c6681c62d6c9ff91f5fc4fb8c3.jpg


https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/mlpfanart/images/5/5c/Princess_Luna_by_artist-stardustxiii.png/revision/latest?cb=20130323105119

Pendulous
2017-06-18, 01:42 AM
I feel your pain.

Not figuratively. I live in Central Florida. I used to tell all my Texas friends that it was like if they stepped outside in the heat of the day with a wool blanket over their heads.

Alabama is bad enough, thanks. It's always humid here.

https://derpicdn.net/img/2017/6/17/1463867/medium.png

meto30
2017-06-18, 03:29 AM
Alabama is bad enough, thanks. It's always humid here.

https://derpicdn.net/img/2017/6/17/1463867/medium.png

So basically, the summer weather over there is like a monsoon? I do remember vaguely that respective north-western shores of both the Pacific (East Asia) and the Atlantic (Eastern United States) belonged in the same climate zone from my high school earth sciences class... As I have never been east of the Rockies, I have a hard time imagining life in non-Pacific United States. I really loved the Summer in Oregon, though.

Manga Shoggoth
2017-06-18, 04:52 AM
Alabama is bad enough, thanks. It's always humid here.

https://derpicdn.net/img/2017/6/17/1463867/medium.png

Applejack in pink bunny ears? No wonder she's fuming...


Summer arrived yesterday (just in time for the daughter's 18th). Baking hot with just enough humidity to be annoying. Hopefully Bleakbane has it a few degrees cooler.

b_jonas
2017-06-18, 02:56 PM
I don't get it, if you guys are going to pick the human race for the extra feat and skill point, why not at least pick the desert variant (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/races/environmentalRacialVariants.htm#desertRaces) for the +4 racial bonus on Fortitude saves made to resist the effects of hot weather if you're going to live there? Doesn't fix everything admittedly, but making the saving throws at a bonus is always nice. Aotrs commander is a lich, he is automatically immune to fortitude effects, so he doesn't need that bonus.

DigoDragon
2017-06-18, 05:51 PM
I feel your pain.
Not figuratively. I live in Central Florida. I used to tell all my Texas friends that it was like if they stepped outside in the heat of the day with a wool blanket over their heads.

And some days that blanket is wet so you feel like you're in a sauna. :>



I don't get it, if you guys are going to pick the human race for the extra feat and skill point, why not at least pick the desert variant (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/races/environmentalRacialVariants.htm#desertRaces) for the +4 racial bonus on Fortitude saves made to resist the effects of hot weather if you're going to live there? Doesn't fix everything admittedly, but making the saving throws at a bonus is always nice.

The desert is a dry heat. Humid heat is a different kind of beast. ;)



https://derpicdn.net/img/2017/6/17/1463867/medium.png

*snerk* That's a cute AJ face.

Aotrs Commander
2017-06-18, 07:30 PM
Ho hum. Spent a couple of hours mucking with Cities Skylines themes and lighting, ended up trying to make my own, waste of time since on the winter maps you can't see dreck-all anyway.

Still, this go is maybe marginally better than some of the my previous ones...

Kinda.




Aotrs commander is a lich, he is automatically immune to fortitude effects, so he doesn't need that bonus.

And on top of that, England quite frequently notoriously rather far from a desert...

(You'd really need a variant that gave you a +4 bonus for Waiting Politely in Queues to be more accurate, let's face it...!)



Edit: Catching up:

An ACTUAL royal sister's episode? After only SEVEN SEASONS?

What madness be this?!

Fracking FINALLY, another chance to actually see Celestia as an actual character an not Generic Mentor.

Starlight - still Evil.

Twilight's freakouts and Starlight's deadpan reactions were the funniesr part of the episode.

Daybreaker, huh? You know what else I like about this epsiode? It gels very nicely with my own headcanon belief that Celestia is a bit frightened of her own power, and what she could do with it.



That said, I wonder if Celestia was laying it on a little thick or not; since she DID have to managed Equestria for a thousand years solo... That or she never dealt with the nightmares - which raises some interesting questions all by itself.

Very good, solid episode!

Pilum
2017-06-18, 10:59 PM
Daybreaker, huh? You know what else I like about this epsiode? It gels very nicely with my own headcanon belief that Celestia is a bit frightened of her own power, and what she could do with it.

That said, I wonder if Celestia was laying it on a little thick or not; since she DID have to managed Equestria for a thousand years solo... That or she never dealt with the nightmares - which raises some interesting questions all by itself.

Very good, solid episode!

I like the idea that Starlight's dream was .... inadvertently corrupted by a Celestia unable to shield herself in an unfamiliar realm, but sadly I think that if the staff were asked, they'd say that it was all Starlight's.

Regards the thousand years, I reckon that we have to accept Luna's statements that Celestia's magic can't affect the world of dreams, and thus all she did was move the moon... or, perhaps, simply move the sun out of the way of a mad Nightmare Moon's attempts at keeping the moon permanently in the sky, even while banished there. I want to believe that an oblivious pony-dom, perhaps, evolved a folk belief that nightmares were caused by NM, in much the same way as we hold that eating cheese at bedtime does so.

t209
2017-06-18, 11:48 PM
Well, still have peeve on Marvel not doing Space Opera nowadays with the Guardians of the Galaxy stuck (and stayed) on Earth even if they let Chitauri invade Earth and used as excuse for Hydra to take over.
At least Civil War had moment where Space heroes do good for galaxy by stemming Annihilus, which somehow the writers neglect when they had a prison built in his home. I mean it would be a lot better if Annihilus pour through the prison and forcing entire event to halt.
On the other hand, someone would found these guys (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hx7tEGyXrtQ) (other than HAMMER) sooner, consider how much aliens in Marvel U are malevolent.
Also same goes for that pony episode,
I actually don't hate Starlight that much. And I swear that she was actually trying to do good for both sisters. Plus you know that Twilight might have bias towards Celestia, thus not being sent on mission.
Still it was the sisters rather than Starlight who resolved the plot.

Excession
2017-06-19, 03:24 AM
The desert is a dry heat. Humid heat is a different kind of beast. ;)

So does humidity require a Will save then? :smallsmile:

DigoDragon
2017-06-19, 05:49 AM
I want to believe that an oblivious pony-dom, perhaps, evolved a folk belief that nightmares were caused by NM, in much the same way as we hold that eating cheese at bedtime does so.

Eating cheese does what? Huh, don't think I heard that one before. Certainly doesn't happen to me. :smalltongue:



So does humidity require a Will save then? :smallsmile:

I would say Fortitude save. Because then it explains why we have an annual zombie run in the city.



I've been in Washington DC and Florida. My bonus helped there too, but it felt more like a +2 bonus in that climate.

Yeah, it's like your bonuses get cut in half. And there's very little middle-ground-- either it's blazing hot with few clouds to block the sun or it's raining hard. :smalltongue:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-MGaClH16fk4/WUcLsasavYI/AAAAAAACcyY/tz0iqOLXaQ42Zc2Aep26xqB3fWmsrPZEgCHMYCw/s650/bygintoki231497828192696.png

Pilum
2017-06-19, 09:34 AM
Eating cheese does what? Huh, don't think I heard that one before. Certainly doesn't happen to me. :smalltongue:
Hmm, maybe it's just a British thing (http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20120417-does-cheese-give-you-nightmares). I wouldn't have mentioned it if I'd realised, I thought I remembered a Looney Tunes cartoon or similar that used it though... ah well.

Rater202
2017-06-19, 10:06 AM
It's a common trope that eating certain foods too close to bedtime will cause nightmares or at least strange dreams. strongly pungent cheeses, chilli, mexican food, cajun food, and indian food are the ones I've heard most so other than the cheese it might be a capsaicin thing.

DigoDragon
2017-06-19, 10:32 AM
Hmm, maybe it's just a British thing (http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20120417-does-cheese-give-you-nightmares). I wouldn't have mentioned it if I'd realised, I thought I remembered a Looney Tunes cartoon or similar that used it though... ah well.

It's a common trope that eating certain foods too close to bedtime will cause nightmares or at least strange dreams. strongly pungent cheeses, chilli, mexican food, cajun food, and indian food are the ones I've heard most so other than the cheese it might be a capsaicin thing.

I suppose such a thing just doesn't apply to me. Whether I have dreams or not seems independent of any food I may or may not eat before bed.

Drinks might be a different story, since my brain has to wake me up in the middle of the night to pee.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-jfSkpDmDbo0/WUXtQOgLbPI/AAAAAAAB2s0/vKhEcahWu04lDoiVCGgZTvcnNuvOmbNUwCLcBGAs/s640/silly_horse_by_momomistress-dbd1jx7.png

Miltonian
2017-06-19, 02:35 PM
This conversation reminds me of that quote from a Christmas Carol. "There's more gravy than grave about you." Kind of illustrates the whole trope. In other words, when he first sees a ghost, he doesn't believe it because human sense can be so easily deceived by something as small as indigestion.

Changing topics, because I doubt anyone wants to hear a Twilight-esque lecture of the subject...

I've heard that this season holds some sort of confirmation that Scootaloo's parents are dead, but if it does, I somehow missed it. Anyone else seen anything to confirm or deny that?

b_jonas
2017-06-19, 03:09 PM
I've heard that this season holds some sort of confirmation that Scootaloo's parents are dead, but if it does, I somehow missed it. Anyone else seen anything to confirm or deny that? S7 E7 Parental Glideance has some statement that is deliberately vague enough that you can take it as confirming your headcanon about Scootaloo's parent, whatever it is.

> Scootaloo: Ya know, some ponies would dream of having parents like that.
> Rainbow Dash: Yeah, right! Name one!
> Scootaloo: [sighs] Me. Growing up, I never thought I'd be the best at anything, because nopony ever told me. But your parents told you over and over again.

DigoDragon
2017-06-19, 06:14 PM
S7 E7 Parental Glideance has some statement that is deliberately vauge enough that you can take it as confirming your headcanon about Scootaloo's parent, whatever it is.

> Scootaloo: Ya know, some ponies would dream of having parents like that.
> Rainbow Dash: Yeah, right! Name one!
> Scootaloo: [sighs] Me. Growing up, I never thought I'd be the best at anything, because nopony ever told me. But your parents told you over and over again.

It's scary that "negligent parents" is not ruled out.


Trixie is tricksy.
http://img14.deviantart.net/73c1/i/2017/170/9/e/glimmerina_by_bobthedalek-dbdasj6.jpg

Miltonian
2017-06-19, 09:13 PM
S7 E7 Parental Glideance has some statement that is deliberately vauge enough that you can take it as confirming your headcanon about Scootaloo's parent, whatever it is.

> Scootaloo: Ya know, some ponies would dream of having parents like that.
> Rainbow Dash: Yeah, right! Name one!
> Scootaloo: [sighs] Me. Growing up, I never thought I'd be the best at anything, because nopony ever told me. But your parents told you over and over again.

Oh. Right, now I remember. Thank you. Yeah, that is quite vague.

McNum
2017-06-20, 08:10 AM
I bring new tax! There's a new page (http://fav.me/dbczix2) of the comic collaboration me and a friend have been doing out!

As usual, the previous page first, to recap.
http://pre13.deviantart.net/bd88/th/pre/i/2017/032/7/d/comic__night_call_pg_8_by_mykegreywolf-daxkjt8.png
Link (http://fav.me/daxkjt8)
And now the continuation!
http://pre09.deviantart.net/18fa/th/pre/i/2017/167/1/1/comic__night_call_pg_9_by_mykegreywolf-dbczix2.png
Link (http://fav.me/dbczix2)
I am kind of impressed how my friend manages to keep these kind of dry conversation pages interesting. This particular page is probably the most difficult to make interesting in the entire comic. We're past the halfway point now, and yes, more funny is coming, but this page and the next couple of pages are... well... the entire reason this comic exists.

Pilum
2017-06-20, 10:18 AM
From a land down under. Oddly appropriate for Mr D :smallsmile:

Loved it. Not much to quibble over. And so sweet I had to brush my teeth 4 times afterwards!

Spamotron
2017-06-20, 11:24 AM
SE7E12: I can't seem to get the spoiler tag to work with my phone. So all I'll say is that towards the end I was worried that Fluttershy might endanger the universe by causing some kind of adorableness singularity.

DigoDragon
2017-06-20, 02:22 PM
I bring new tax! There's a new page (http://fav.me/dbczix2) of the comic collaboration me and a friend have been doing out!

Nice stuff. Still my fave is sleeping Celly on page 3.

So majestic. :smallbiggrin:


The tea-selling pony was sooo cute! I must have fanart of her. Forget the review, off to the interweb art galleries!

[2 minutes later]

Changed my mind! I love the tea pot selling pony best! Off to the fanarts!

[10 seconds later]

Okay, maybe i'll wait a couple days for artists to actually like... watch the episode and draw the ponies. :smallredface: Anyway, We have one of those floating faucets in St. Augustine. Specifically in the Believe it or Not museum. Pretty fun place to visit if you go. Not far from the old forts. You know what else is not far from old? Discord trying too hard. XD Nah, I'm just being silly. It was a decent episode really--Basically 20 minutes of DeLancie being a ham with himself. Neat to see Fluttershy's expressions of excitement in anticipation of the weirdness and then not see them at Discord's house.

So yeah, pretty decent. Fun. Flutters being silly was cute.

digiman619
2017-06-20, 03:29 PM
Was I the only one who was wanting him to reference his being reformed as changing himself to suit Fluttershy? Because even aline about "you're not that person anymore, that doesn't make you not you" would have been wonderful.

Pilum
2017-06-20, 04:51 PM
Personally, I think that's rather implicit in Discord episodes now (or at least with Flutters). That he cares about anyone not named Discord, and ponies wake up in roughly the same body they went to sleep in, indicates that the reformation finally took (until it suits the writing team otherwise, but hopefully that never will). There's an element of the old (and probably now discredited) sociological saw of the Rough Masculine being brought into line and socialised by the Cultured Feminine too but that's probably just an excess of over-analysing on my part (insert /twilightguiltyface here!)

b_jonas
2017-06-20, 04:54 PM
Wait what? Why are you talking about E12 already? Wasn't E11 the episode broadcast this weekend? (I haven't watched E11 yet, but that's my own fault.)

Pilum
2017-06-20, 05:14 PM
Wait what? Why are you talking about E12 already? Wasn't E11 the episode broadcast this weekend? (I haven't watched E11 yet, but that's my own fault.)
Blame the ozzies :smallwink: Their turn to go early this time.

Aaaand rumour has it that they've got e13 soon too (tomorrow?).


Off to the fanarts!
With all the DiscoShy shipping fuel in that last act? You'll be lucky if those two get screenshots ;-)

Kidding, but they were cuties though.

Edit: especially the teaset seller. Ye gods, ponies picking up teapots with their mouths is just TOO adorable.

Aotrs Commander
2017-06-20, 07:27 PM
Finished War for the Overworld's last pet dungeon. This one had some possession challenges, where you had to possess a minion past a locked door; first time I've used possession, really.

Democorns are stupidly powerful...

And this is what the world looks like from their eyes (note you can just see one of the sparkly stars they see everywhere.)

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/851592876996538368/7482D8E041E02482445E1E0F887BD541513FADD8/
Bwahahahahaha! And check out that ability. They aren't even making an attempt to hide it here!

WftO is fracking fantastic.

Adderbane
2017-06-20, 08:04 PM
I think Fluttershy was even more adorable here than Flurry was in episode 3...

Aotrs Commander
2017-06-20, 09:10 PM
*skulldesk*

Watched the second trio of episodes of Thundercats.

Hooooooo boy.

It impresses on me how good Transformers (for all it's ills) was, and how amazing Centurions is.

Thundercats is... Honestly pretty terrible. The voice acting is... Bad. Panthro is the only one who sounds vaguely like a real person. Everyone else is so... stilted. Snarf - to my AMAZEMENT - actually might be one of the better characters (since he HAS a bit of personality and actually isn't as hopeless/cowardly as I thought he was); but what little gain that gets him squandered by the "snarf snarf" which is annoying. The rest of the Thundercats are all "the code of Thundera" and "brave nobel warrior" in a way in comparible to season one ST:TNG.

The scripts are... Nearly MASK level bad. Stuff just happens because the script says so.

(Example: Mumm-Ra has Cheetara captured - somehow, she just suddenly faits while of her morning run - and shapoeshifts into *sigh* "Pumm-ra" (a puma Thundercat). Despite being... PAINFULLY obvious, the Thundercats take him overnight and decide to give hima week's probabation before accepting him. That night, Mumm-Ra sneaks out sabtgaes the Thunder Lair and the Thunder Tank and steals the Sword of Omens, all without alerting the Thundercats. So, he's got his objective, he's covered his escape, right? No. He just STAYS there until morning for no reason whatsoever and then it all goes horribly wrong.)

The bad guys pose no credible threat at all, nor are they fun to watch flounder around. It's also pianfully obvious they aren't allowed to hit each other with their weapons (thank frag Transformers was able to get away with it).

The animation is not bad, I suppose. The action sequences mave maybe slightly more dynamism to them that MASK, but it's hard to say.

Maybe it will mature, but at the moment... It's... Becoming a bit hard to watch, actually.

DigoDragon
2017-06-21, 05:49 AM
With all the DiscoShy shipping fuel in that last act? You'll be lucky if those two get screenshots ;-)

Kidding, but they were cuties though.

Edit: especially the teaset seller. Ye gods, ponies picking up teapots with their mouths is just TOO adorable.

I know, it's just too cute to see them manipulate things like that.

It's gotta be that short mane style. I'm a sucker for a lady with short hair. :smalltongue: Well if I'm not seeing fanarts, I'll have to draw her myself.



Bwahahahahaha! And check out that ability. They aren't even making an attempt to hide it here!

Wow, that is just so blatant that I salute them for it. XD



*skulldesk*

Watched the second trio of episodes of Thundercats.

I don't remember it getting good. I think it remained cheese throughout its run. I could be wrong though. I mean, this was like... 30+ years ago?

b_jonas
2017-06-21, 09:24 AM
Let me watch the episode that was released this weekend.

S7 E11: Not Asking for Trouble, thoughts as I watch.
(Pinkie shows a scroll of mail with a bull head silhouette on the stamp.) Ah yes, this is the Yakyakistan episode! I remember the TV guide synopsis. Great! That means a whole episode of Pinkie Pie's awesomeness.
A pair of giant wooden yak statues holding giant torches, right behind the gate to the city. Interesting.
So is all the yak stomping causing the avalanches that the TV guide synopsis mentioned? Because that would be a tough one to resolve.
(Yak eating houose, yak sleeping hut.) Ok, now you're just lazy, recycling all the ideas from S5. Let's get over with this. (Yak music hut.)
("Yak horn too heavy for small pony head.) Oh good, Prince Rutherford still has some common sense.
Ah, so now the yaks just stomp on the snow.
Hehe, Pinkie has snow horns.
Good thing Pinkie is familiar with Ponyville, where the ponies don't use unicorn magic to change seasons, so she'll understand why Yaks have a custom where they don't use pony help to change seasons.
(The goats were attacked by a giant sand creature.) Hehe, telling a story might be a good idea, but Pinkie is a really bad storyteller. Again. We've seen that in S1 E21. She should get Princess Luna or some other good storyteller here. There were some nice details in the drawings she conjured during the story though.
(You know who would enjoy the snow sandwiches? ... they'll clear the snow away.) That was a good try, Pinkie. Pity you messed it up in the end.
Oh no! "Honorary yak status rescinded." That will really hurt Pinkie. It's like when Cranky wouldn't accept her apology. Pinkie will now go very far to fix this. Even the yaks won't be able to out-stubborn her.
Nice! Pinkie's spy goggles from S3 E1 is back. They can do more interesting callbacks than the vanilla extract balance.
They just sneak in and fix the town while the yaks are sleeping? That's so rude. And the yaks don't even have guards for the night because nobody ever comes to Yakyakistan to steal anything?
She started another war? I hope no.
That's it? That's all there is for the ending? This episode makes no sense. I just don't know what to say.


Update: this show has grown up. It started as a kids' cartoon, and now it's dealing with adult topics like a country forcibly liberating another country from its supposedly oppressive regime.

Pilum
2017-06-21, 10:24 AM
Well, that was an episode. Quite ... dusty in here at the moment (you soppy old bugger, Pilum...)

Oh, and because I'm a sad geek with no life, it works out to their 15 year anniversary. If you were curious.

Jeivar
2017-06-21, 12:18 PM
I'm curious: Can someone point me in the direction of good "Doctor Whooves" fics?

And by "good" I mean the ponies do more than just stand around and tell the Doctor how awesome he is. I'm only a casual Doctor Who watcher, but I like fics that provide an outsider perspective to a unique setting.

Deadly
2017-06-21, 12:38 PM
What in blazes is going on with the schedule this season? They're airing episodes on Wednesday now? Two episodes?

It must be brain-meltingly weird to be around Discord. It must really put your faith in reality to a test.

Cheerilee's sister, mayhaps?

Is it just me, or have these ponies grown ... smaller?

Dun dun dun DUUUN!

Hehe, she's having fun.

Opposites attract! DiscordxFluttershy ... yeah, I'll ship that

***

Liked it! Discord is always a hoot, and Fluttershy being adorable is never a bad thing. Not much else to say about it.

Grand Pear ... of course.

I'm guessing Granny doesn't like pears. I'm also guessing there's some history between her and Grand Pear.

Wait, is that young Granny? She changed her hair, I guess

I'm sensing real love between Granny and Grand. Just me? Just me, I guess

Wait, bug-eyed baby ponies talking? No, just no

Well, she is dangerously, distractingly cute.

Twilight spotted in the background!

Just mix it all together, bags and bottles and eggshells all, that's how ponies bake

"One hundred and thirty one thousand four hundred and fifty six hours". So 131456 hours, that's 5477 days or 15 years. I guess more evidence of ponies aging like humans. Bah, humbug!

"Doesn't that feel nice?" Well, I laughed, and laughter feels nice, so ... yes, yes it does.

They knew about the trees? Granny looked like she didn't. This is confusing.

***

Gosh darnit, but this episode was sweeter than sugar. Still no definitive word on what happened to their parents. I'm okay with leaving it unsaid, though.

digiman619
2017-06-21, 01:58 PM
Bravo. Romantic stories usually don't make me cry (I was dry as a bone after seeing Casablanca), but this one got to me. While A Royal Problem is my favorite episode this season, this is objectively the best so far. The only thing that I felt was missing was an explanation as to why now; what changed in Grand Pear's life that he now wants to see his lost grandchildren? Did he only recently discover that they existed? Is he dying and he wanted to make amends before he goes?

Regardless, kudos. Thinking about the episode is making me tear up again, so I better leave it at that.

Emmerlaus
2017-06-21, 02:13 PM
This episode was cute!

The tea seller pony... I hope she's Cherilee sister.

I was pretty much confused myself how Fluttershy and Discord were friends. They ARE very different. I never had a close friendship myself where the other had nothing in common with me. I dont know why to be honest. I guess Im not like that?

If this episode made me wonder something, its how those friendship works. I would love to have someone getting me out of my comfort zone like that but in the same time, it takes good chimestry.

Its also interesting how Discord NEED to be chaotic to exist. I never would have guessed. I wonder if their is more of his species around but you know, just less talented with chaos magic.

I loved how Fluttershy went out of her way to help Discord on her own.

This episode was well-written and I LOVED seeing Discord so kind and trying to be so attentive to what Fluttershy would want, instead of you know, thinking of what he likes first. That was a lot of self-sacrifice, even if it brought him closer to his own doom.

Overral, I would give it... 8.5/10. The only downside where that I didnt laugh a lot in that episode or hit heartstrings too hardly. It was more on the cute side of things but I loved it. Well-written, adorable, very slice of life with a touch of chaos, it was delight!



As the title said...
I loved that episode. I never saw a pony more adorable then Pear Butter.:smallfrown:

I Wonder why Grandpear and Granny Smith weren't a couple HAHAHA!

That episode makes me cry everytime. I havent being touch in a love story since the first minutes of the movie " Up!"

I give this epsiode 1233/100, its just a perfect episode. Good characterization, good new ponies introduced, a awesome song.

Im just in love with this episode... One of the best episodes yet!

t209
2017-06-21, 05:40 PM
https://youtu.be/yO95ZRrMSxw
Well, anyone saw this video?

DigoDragon
2017-06-21, 06:06 PM
A personal story that goes with S7 Episode 13:
Around 2003ish I had managed to put together a local RP group. I just got a hold of the three-book set for D&D 3.5 and started on an idea for a grand campaign with ancient evil artifacts,
a conspiracy made by several dragons, and an errant cleric that turned against his faith. It was a great group that had a lot of fun together on Saturdays playing great (and silly) heroes and rolling dice and laughing at the antics we'd geek over.

I spent 10 years running and playing in various table top RPGs with this group. Ten Years. It was in October of 2013 when one of our longest members beside myself suffered a heart attack and was hospitalized. He didn't survive the surgery, and the loss devastated the group utterly. And when I say utterly I mean the group broke apart.

We stopped having RP sessions.

We stopped hanging out.

We stopped talking to one another.

There were some like myself that did everything in their power to bring the group back together, but it was not to be. It wouldn't be until around fall of last year that I found a new local group. One of the players of the old disbanded group had put it together and invited me in. We're the only two from that long standing group of a bygone era, and we look back and wonder how are those people doing? Are they having a decent life? Employed in decent jobs? Having fun with their favorite past time?


I tell this story because I completely broke down crying when the Apples confronted Grandpa Pear and he admitted he shouldn't have left. All those years lost. Years gone when Pear should have been there for his daughter and watched her start her own family with Bright Mac. I saw my old group in Grandpa Pear. People who I knew so well and yet for reasons that shouldn't have occurred, we lost touch and never reconnected again. And like the Apples, I would so welcome them back if they ever returned.

Don't let time slip you by. It can't be rewound.

Yeah, I cried. This wasn't the Apple parents episode we asked for. This was the episode we earned. It was beautiful and I think my favorite of the season. Even more so than the Trixie episodes. And that might say something.

Granny's short mane style was really cute, as well as Mayor Mare's lavender colored mane. Nice. The song was really sweet.

It's interesting how bad events caused so many ponies to not talk about it and not realize until years later they shouldn't have held back so long. The only way this episode could have been better is if Goldie, Oak, Cake, and Mayor showed up to see the tree too and they all just reminisce at what was. Maybe it's for the best it didn't happen. I don't think my feels could handle it. Beautiful episode.



Is it just me, or have these ponies grown ... smaller?

"One hundred and thirty one thousand four hundred and fifty six hours". So 131456 hours, that's 5477 days or 15 years. I guess more evidence of ponies aging like humans. Bah, humbug!

I think part of it is because Discord is rather large by comparison.


Ponies age like humans, but any headcanons on the occasional exception like Granny smith might still find explanations for her age. :smalltongue:



(I was dry as a bone after seeing Casablanca),

The only thing that I felt was missing was an explanation as to why now; what changed in Grand Pear's life that he now wants to see his lost grandchildren? Did he only recently discover that they existed? Is he dying and he wanted to make amends before he goes?

Wait, we're supposed to cry at Casablanca? :smallconfused:

It could just be he realized his own mortality. My parents separated on unhappy terms, and things went quiet for a while. Then my dad comes back and tries to catch up with all his children. He visits,
he spends time with his granddaughter, he buys her stuff and spoils her. A lot of that was because time is only so long for everyone and he wants to make up for lost years. I'm happy he did.



The tea seller pony... I hope she's Cherilee sister.

Interestingly, the comics gave Cheerilee a sister. Totally wasn't a tea seller though. :smallbiggrin:

Excession
2017-06-21, 07:04 PM
That was really good. Great story, lots of new ponies, background music, song, voice acting, callbacks, just everything was so well done.

That we know Bright Mac and Pear Butter are ... gone ... adds just that little bit of sadness.

Who wrote this one, and who did all the new voices? I shall have to check the credits.

Shower thought: 131456 hours? That's some fancy mathematics.


William Shatner was Grand Pear?!!!
And Felicia Day was Pear Butter!!!
Bill Mondy was Burnt Oak; haven't heard of him. Wonderful accent though.

DigoDragon
2017-06-21, 08:35 PM
William Shatner was Grand Pear?!!!
And Felicia Day was Pear Butter!!!
Bill Mondy was Burnt Oak; haven't heard of him. Wonderful accent though.


WHAT?!

Dang, how did I miss that?

Adderbane
2017-06-21, 09:02 PM
William Shatner was Grand Pear?!!!


WHAT?!?

:smalleek:

Wow, with all the other awesome things about the episode, I totally missed that.

Aotrs Commander
2017-06-21, 09:09 PM
Oh for... REALLY?

What the merry frack is up with the epsidoe schedules world-wide? Are they doing it deliberately to be annoying or what?

Topaz
2017-06-21, 10:37 PM
Oh for... REALLY?

What the merry frack is up with the epsidoe schedules world-wide? Are they doing it deliberately to be annoying or what?

It's the Friendship is Magic pre-movie World Tour! :smallwink:

Pendulous
2017-06-22, 12:03 AM
Game Grumps have their first ever podcast episode, there's a new Bronies React (season 7 premier), and a new episode to watch. So much stuff to watch after work.

FYI, Grand Pear was William Shatner, and Pear Butter was Felicia Day. Holy F balls.

Speaking of, Pear Butter was freaking adorable. Great design.

Oh, Mayor Mare said "man and wife". Not "mare and colt" as they have before for weddings.

One thing that bothered me. As important as this was, it seemed like all this should have happened much earlier in their lives, shouldn't it? Plus, given how close everyone in Ponyville is, Mayor Mare and Mrs. Cake should at one point have told them something.

But that's a minor nitpick. Definitely a tearjerker episode, and one that finally tells a story everybody's been clamoring for. Plus, pretty sure the parents are dead.

zimmerwald1915
2017-06-22, 12:43 AM
Oh, Mayor Mare said "man and wife". Not "mare and colt" as they have before for weddings.
I heard "husband and wife," and the transcript on mlpwiki backs my recollection up. As for conforming to a previously-set standard, that went out the window in Slice of Life, where Mayor Mare pronounced Cranky and Matilda "jack and jenny."

Yes, those are the terms for male and female donkeys, like mare and stallion ("colt" presumably just flows better) are for horses and ponies, but it's not like it's a big oversight.

* * *

Decent writing + stellar performances = good episode.

b_jonas
2017-06-22, 05:25 AM
S7 E11 replies. Why have there been so few comments about this episode by the way?


Whatever happened to Yakyakistan being so far away and unreachable that nopony had ever seen it before? Now they just fly there like it's nothing at all?
Good question.

It's probably not the same situation as with the Everfree Forest. In S1 E1, none of the Mane Six had been to the forest because it's so scary. In S1 E17, they're still somewhat scared, but not enough to not go there if there's a good reason, such as looting random drops for spell components. In S4 E3, all six go into the forest like it's nothing, they are only scared about the dungeon. The ponies have gained several levels, so the forest is now at an easy enough challenge rating for them, plus they have mapped most of the forest so they know what to expect and can prepare properly.

Most of this doesn't really apply to Yakyakistan, so yes, it's a bit strange. Maybe part of the reason why nopony went to Yakyakistan is that you had to pass through the wastelands on the north which were haunted by King Sombra. Now that King Sombra is gone, and the Crystal Empire is rebuilt, ponies can travel there more easily. And of course ponies might have been scared of the yaks themselves too, but now they are friends for a thousand moons.


Here's my hangup--why didn't Pinkie get help from the Crystal Empire? It's much closer and there are unicorns and an alicorn available to tap. Come on, I'm sure they could get a babysitter. Don't they have servants for that kind of stuff? The ponies from Crystal Empire wouldn't know what to do. Ponies in Ponyville have this great feast where they wrap up winter by ploughing the snow and the pegasuses removing the clouds and bringing in some wind so the sun can melt the snow, and almost everypony in Ponyville participates in it. They can pull off something like that in another town without too much preparation. The Crystal Empire ponies feed love to the magical artifact guarded in their town, and that magical artifact keeps the snow and winter away. They don't know any other way to control the weather, as you could see in S6 E2 when everyone was at loss for what to do when the artifact broke. They would need a long weather control course before they can go help some other town.

Also, Pinkie Pie was respected enough in Ponyville so she could convince her friends there that the leading regime in Yakyakistan is bad enough that they had to intervene, but she might not have been able to pull the right strings for that in the Crystal Empire.

DigoDragon
2017-06-22, 07:05 AM
It's the Friendship is Magic pre-movie World Tour! :smallwink:

As organized by the Pre-Twilight winter Wrap-up team. :smalltongue:



One thing that bothered me. As important as this was, it seemed like all this should have happened much earlier in their lives, shouldn't it? Plus, given how close everyone in Ponyville is, Mayor Mare and Mrs. Cake should at one point have told them something.

Plus, pretty sure the parents are dead.

I assume it didn't happen earlier because depicting a much younger couple eloping is probably not the kind of thing Hasbro wants to show their target audience. :x

I do wonder why no one said anything to the Apple kids. I can only imagine that the Apple parents' death was just that tragic and the entire town was left traumatized. No one could bring themselves to talk about it openly. It takes all three children showing up together to get folks to spill the beans. And yeah, the way it was shown I'm pretty sure the parents have died.



Yes, those are the terms for male and female donkeys, like mare and stallion ("colt" presumably just flows better) are for horses and ponies, but it's not like it's a big oversight.

Yeah, Stallion is three syllables and colt just one. Things are easier to flow in 'smaller' words.



The ponies from Crystal Empire wouldn't know what to do. Ponies in Ponyville have this great feast where they wrap up winter by ploughing the snow and the pegasuses removing the clouds and bringing in some wind so the sun can melt the snow, and almost everypony in Ponyville participates in it. They can pull off something like that in another town without too much preparation. The Crystal Empire ponies feed love to the magical artifact guarded in their town, and that magical artifact keeps the snow and winter away. They don't know any other way to control the weather, as you could see in S6 E2 when everyone was at loss for what to do when the artifact broke. They would need a long weather control course before they can go help some other town.

Also, Pinkie Pie was respected enough in Ponyville so she could convince her friends there that the leading regime in Yakyakistan is bad enough that they had to intervene, but she might not have been able to pull the right strings for that in the Crystal Empire.

Pinkie can coordinate the Crystal Ponies together to help. I'm sure her party planning skills would give her some ability to shovel snow from a buried town. The artifact breaking in S6E2 causes no mere ordinary snow fall. It's like a malevolent storm that even Celestia and Luna couldn't stop, so of course the Crystal Ponies wouldn't know how to handle that kind of event. But for the Yaks, it was just an avalanche of mundane snow. It doesn't fight back. It just needs to be shoveled. :smalltongue:

Plus, Pinkie knows Cadance and Shining AND is a hero of Equestria. Maybe the Crystal Ponies don't know her personally, but they would recognize Pinkie's importance. And the royal family would totally vouch for her too.

Adderbane
2017-06-22, 11:37 AM
I do wonder why no one said anything to the Apple kids. I can only imagine that the Apple parents' death was just that tragic and the entire town was left traumatized. No one could bring themselves to talk about it openly. It takes all three children showing up together to get folks to spill the beans. And yeah, the way it was shown I'm pretty sure the parents have died.

Its possible Granny Smith has done a bit to suppress the knowledge. Note Goldie Delicious asking them if Granny knows they're there. She might've wanted to keep such painful information from then until they're older and kept putting it off.

I don't think the higher ups would let them outright state their parents are dead, so vague references are probably as close as we'll get. I think the writers are smart enough to know bringing them back would be a very bad idea.

DigoDragon
2017-06-23, 07:12 AM
Its possible Granny Smith has done a bit to suppress the knowledge. Note Goldie Delicious asking them if Granny knows they're there. She might've wanted to keep such painful information from then until they're older and kept putting it off.

I don't think the higher ups would let them outright state their parents are dead, so vague references are probably as close as we'll get. I think the writers are smart enough to know bringing them back would be a very bad idea.

You know, I just realized how many fanfics/art/headcanons there were about AJ hating pears. Haha, guess all those gotta get tossed out now. ^_^

Yeah, Granny probably would have done some suppression, believing it would protect the kids as they were really young at the time. But kids are smarter than most give them credit for.


Edit--
Oh wow. Are Knights of the Dinner Table even still relevant?
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-HZDwHIvKouY/WUumMKq4oPI/AAAAAAAAEaA/eMLJdrZp6ekiGWyL4P7qvGEMJwWiGJACQCLcBGAs/s1600/Knights%2Bof%2Bthe%2BDinner%2BTable%2BMLP%2BCover. jpg

Pilum
2017-06-23, 10:44 AM
Bit of fridge logic for ep 12: this is isn't much of a spoiler if you already know the basic plot, more about the scheduling, but just in case...:
From Treehugger's episode, we know that Fluttershy "love(s) our Tuesday teas."

And what day did Australia air it on..? :smallwink:

Aotrs Commander
2017-06-23, 02:32 PM
So. Wonder Woman was very enjoyable.

http://orig04.deviantart.net/077a/f/2013/241/e/5/wonder_woman___pony_style_by_redriolu447-d6k6fqh.jpg

That's the first DC movie (discounting LEO Batman) that I've seen since Green Lantern.

Heck, if they keep this up, the DCCU might not nosedive into complete crap!

I am tempted now to go see Justice League just solely for Wondy, actually. I think the movie's made me a little bit of a convert.

Alabenson
2017-06-23, 04:04 PM
Well, in non-pony news, I've officially moved into my own home, and now have tv/internet set up. just in time for the mid-season hiatus.

Aotrs Commander
2017-06-23, 04:18 PM
Well, in non-pony news, I've officially moved into my own home, and now have tv/internet set up. just in time for the mid-season hiatus.

There's a haitus?

You mean I might be able to ACTUALLY catch up...?

Adderbane
2017-06-23, 04:59 PM
There's a haitus?

You mean I might be able to ACTUALLY catch up...?

For there to be a hiatus there would need to be a schedule, and I'm not entirely sure they have one...

DigoDragon
2017-06-23, 05:05 PM
Well, in non-pony news, I've officially moved into my own home, and now have tv/internet set up. just in time for the mid-season hiatus.

Congrats on the home thing! Having your own place means never needing permission to wear pajamas all day.



There's a haitus?

You mean I might be able to ACTUALLY catch up...?

So long as you don't blow up the planet, it's quite possible.

zimmerwald1915
2017-06-23, 05:16 PM
For there to be a hiatus there would need to be a schedule, and I'm not entirely sure they have one...
They have one. It's just not US-centric for once.

Alabenson
2017-06-23, 05:49 PM
Congrats on the home thing! Having your own place means never needing permission to wear pajamas all day.

I will admit, given that I've also now moved to Florida, there is a certain advantage to being able to declare myself free from the tyranny of pants at any time.



So long as you don't blow up the planet, it's quite possible.

Actually, given the fact that multiple countries have been broadcasting episodes early, some selective blowing stuff up might help.

Aotrs Commander
2017-06-23, 08:34 PM
So... After seeing Wonder Woman, I was still on a bit of a kick so...

I... kinda binge-watched the entire season of Justice League Action. I don't do that sort of thing very often...

Good show (obvously). Sorta feels like it could be a contination of the DCAU (sometimes).

What I think I like best about it is that even Batman is sometimes the butt of the joke (and this was an issue with DCAU Batman, so it feels very right).

And it capped with a Wonder Woman episode, so that was appropriate considering...

DigoDragon
2017-06-24, 06:46 AM
I will admit, given that I've also now moved to Florida, there is a certain advantage to being able to declare myself free from the tyranny of pants at any time.

And that's what true freedom is about. :smallbiggrin:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Gyx6z_oAWcw/WU2OW9HPQ-I/AAAAAAACdi8/85dQcv5G3XMnZey2k7ogWTMkI695yV96gCHMYCw/s650/COMIkalgobyRuefBae1498254843678.png



Actually, given the fact that multiple countries have been broadcasting episodes early, some selective blowing stuff up might help.

I have a list of individuals. :D

Appleshy1973
2017-06-24, 04:39 PM
Discortant Harmony had some great animation.

digiman619
2017-06-24, 05:00 PM
I wish The Perfect Pear hadn't been spoilerd/they spoiled one more episode. Having that episode be the last one until after hiatus has me reeling from the feels.

Aslo, Digo, I didn't respond, but the Casablanca bit is becuase when I was 8 or so, Mad About You hyped it up as the most romantic movie ever.

Aotrs Commander
2017-06-24, 07:58 PM
Still catchin' up:

This episode tells us two things.

1) Pinkie Pie is a good diplomat. On reflection, this should not really be surprising, given her social skills and that (when she's paying attention) she also knows when to curb her enthusiasm to the right level.



2) Dear Lichemaster, the Yaks are stupid. Stupid, arrogant and stubborn in the worst combination. You shoulda left 'em to freeze, Pinkie, it would have been Darwinism at its finest. To quote from a movie I watched not too long ago... They don't deserve you.

I was not fond of the yaks the first time, and this second time did NOT endear them to me. Willful stupidity I do not find amusing even distantly.

Fortunately, Pinkie managed to carry the entire episode's weight single-hoofedly, though it still was only pretty meh.

DigoDragon
2017-06-25, 11:41 AM
Aslo, Digo, I didn't respond, but the Casablanca bit is becuase when I was 8 or so, Mad About You hyped it up as the most romantic movie ever.

I was in college when I saw it and it didn't do anything really. Was just 'alright' for a classic.



I was not fond of the yaks the first time, and this second time did NOT endear them to me. Willful stupidity I do not find amusing even distantly.

And the way it ended with the yaks saying hoe Pinkie finally "got them", by helping instead of asking or whatever. Geez. Yeah, you're right. Let Darwin sort this mess out. Or to put it another way--

http://img09.deviantart.net/f548/i/2015/183/b/4/diplomacy_by_doublewbrothers-d8zm7a1.jpg

Alabenson
2017-06-25, 12:45 PM
And the way it ended with the yaks saying hoe Pinkie finally "got them", by helping instead of asking or whatever. Geez. Yeah, you're right. Let Darwin sort this mess out. Or to put it another way--

http://img09.deviantart.net/f548/i/2015/183/b/4/diplomacy_by_doublewbrothers-d8zm7a1.jpg

I see Celestia follows the Nanoha Takamachi school of friend making.

Also, I don't think we need to still need to spoiler episode 11 info since it's been over a week since the US airdate.

Aotrs Commander
2017-06-25, 08:38 PM
Still catchin' up:

Well.

That was... Okay? I mean, Discord carried the episode well enough, I guess (I mean, John DeLancie), but there didn't seem to be much bite to this one.

Although, he's definitely corrupted Fluttershy a bit. And vise-versa, since he actually nearly manged to destroy himself by his own hand. Which is pretty daft.

There wasn't any point I was especially laughing out loud though.



Hm. Yeah. I think I can see where this is going, it's...

...

WAS THAT WILLIAM SHATNER?!

Was... That... William Fracking SHATNER?!?!?!

...

...

UNHOLY FRACKING CRAP. Young Granpear even sort of looks Kirk-like!

And, huh, it did NOT go where I expected it to (at least not with Granny and Kirk!Pony).

I like that this episode simultaneously canons the long-fan-hilaritied apple vrs pear thing, while at the same time, totally destroying AJ's sense of mental image. Half-pear. Bahahahahah!

*rest of episode later*

Yeah.

Okay.

That was not REMOTELY what I was expecting from the first five minutes. I was expecting an apple-flavoured rehash of the hillybilly feud episode I can't dignify remembering the name of, but instead we actually get to see the parental apples(/pears) and backstory. And a love story. Which is something I really would never have expected.

Complete with the definite hints that said parents are very definitely past-tense. Shame that it's so likely that will never be explored (because of silliness - if Seseme Street can bloody do it, no-one has any excuse and I know from personal experience death can hit your family whatever age you are).

Good episode.

Didn't hit me emotionally, as I have surmised from other psts some of you have (by inadvertent clicking) (guess Wonder Woman did that quota this week), but it was nevertheless very interesting.



Also - William fracking Shatner?!?!?!



Edit:

And, since we're not THAT many days behind a quick skim back through ponythread.


Oh, and because I'm a sad geek with no life, it works out to their 15 year anniversary. If you were curious.


"One hundred and thirty one thousand four hundred and fifty six hours". So 131456 hours, that's 5477 days or 15 years. I guess more evidence of ponies aging like humans. Bah, humbug!

Never thought of working that out.

Still, actual confirmation of pony aging ball-park finally fracking confirmed!





Good job I watched s7e11 before I read the latest pony comic, since it follows that episode more or less directly. How the frack did they manage THAT?



Bleakplays Plays EUIV: Necrolantis Rises!

Necrolantis Arises! 01 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21893596&postcount=782)
Necrolantis Arises! 02 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21895575&postcount=790)
Necrolantis Arises! 03 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21902631&postcount=802)
Necrolantis Arises! 04 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21906122&postcount=804)
Necrolantis Arises! 05 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21909692&postcount=814)
Necrolantis Arises! 06 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21913218&postcount=835)
Necrolantis Arises! 07 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21916508&postcount=848)
Necrolantis Arises! 08 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21919353&postcount=869)
Necrolantis Arises! 09 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21922152&postcount=880)
Necrolantis Arises! 10 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21925786&postcount=889)
Necrolantis Arises! 11 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21933106&postcount=915)
Necrolantis Arises! 12 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21936505&postcount=927)
Necrolantis Arises! 13 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21939749&postcount=933)
Necrolantis Arises! 14 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21942069&postcount=948)
Necrolantis Arises! 15 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21952280&postcount=980)
Necrolantis Arises! 16 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21955814&postcount=983)
Necrolantis Arises! 17 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21962919&postcount=1001)
Necrolantis Arises! 18 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21965313&postcount=1019)
Necrolantis Arises! 19 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21968136&postcount=1034)


And we're back!

Except we're not, because randomly EUIV suddenly doesn't register any of the DLC. And fo9r some reson, Steam has decided that it dfoesn't want to do anything like any work of any sort today with the internet.

After much faff (the usual restarting steam, verifying files, manually clearing and re-downloading DLC), on reading a similar problem with Stellaris, just as I was about to post a bug report, I logged out and back into my steam account and that apparently worked.

So, first frag knows how long is likely to be resetting all my message notifications...

Okay, maybe not.

First off, slight panic as aparently three CNs suddenly had over 50% liberty desire. I was in the middle of panic, trying to work out what happened... And then I noticed all the relations were at 0. Mystified, I hovered my mouse over them and magically, the correct value filled, in dropping them to the correct value (except for recently vassilised Morocco, which correctly gained its liberty desire. Wierd.

Okay, after a review and pulling a merchant to a real trading spot (instead of being apparently assigned to nothing and thus crashing the game when clicked on), we are going to wait for stuff (especially admin) to tick in for a bit, at least until the next idea and some spare has come in. I elected to use a single Hrash Treatment to shove the absolutism up.

Welp, we eclipsed France, so we only have the Ottomans as rivals now...

Paramount Priest Selagus became Industrious in his old age...

June 1623 brought the nbext idea, reducing mercenary maintenance costs by 25%.

Selagus died (showing how little that last personality trait was worth!) and Acnonios Omirid (5/6/5) became the new Paramount Priest, with the merchant's son Ephron Alcetid (4/4/4) (6/6/4) being the new heir.

As that cost 5 devotion, a strengthen goverment raised that back up - but far more importanly, added +2 absolution!

Unfortunately, there was no way to raise the clergy's loyalty immediately, so that was a pain. Still, the windfall of cash was nice!

Ephron became a Free Thinker. (Nice! (And only on the second try...))

I spent some of that cash upgrading all the transport ships, while we were waiting around, and the last of it on a Trade Station manufactory in Cameroon.

December, we lost a miliatry leader. Tedious... Themistoclis created a colonila assembly (bad) but we got a travelling minstrel (good, +50 Admin!)

August 1624, and Kongo continued to keep on our good side with a small gift of cash...

Huh, another year and we could maybe mop up Mali... But, I think Portugal has to be the next target, though - but give it another year or so, until the diplomats had gotten some of their current jobs done.

Missionary finished, was was sent out again to work on the next of the Sunni provinces.

April 1625, native assimilation in Uskahannok.

June, and both Selagis and Theronis created colonial assemblies. The first diplomat arrived back, and was sent to create a spy network. I was waiting for the diplomat in Songhai to get the relations up (since that had now out-lived its usefulness)... Then I remembered that I didn't want to do that until I'd gotten the influence ideas (next group), so I considered recalled the diplomat but decided against it. We are going to hold this time-zone, though, as if we went now, both Aragon and Kongo would join us, but we'll experimentally run a year or so fowards to get the spy network going first. (So may as well let the diplomat finish.) In the meantime, I figured, then, I might as well spend the point to get the next idea (-10% tech cost).

Slerfuj was nearly done, so I pulled the colonist back and dispated him to Florges in the Moluccans.

Apparently, we can make France a rival again.

Nearly there...

Great Karoo was nearly done, so the colomnist was recalled and sent to neigbouring Roggeveld.

Aha. A mission to gain a foothold in Spain - actually useful, since we would very shortly be attempting to do just that!

Recalled the colonist from Butuan and sent him to neighbouring Visayas - then there would be only three porivnces left in the Malaccas not under Necrolantic control.

Almost to the point where we can create the first claim - time to recall the diplomat from Songhai... Started work on another 12k army, just in case...!

1st of November 1626... Oh. Apparently, it costs 70 to fabricate a claim. Dunno where that came from (the mission perhaps, givig claims?) Nevermind!

Well, we may as well se the Morrocan claims for re-conquest, so let's jump to it! Our allies are still game (sadly, so are Holland, Castille and Oldenburg and we don't want to pull in their allies, so...)

January, and just as it started, we got Mil tech 19 - extra supply (nice!) and upgrade to American Swarm Cavalty! Great!

A global war, if nothing else...!

During the fighting, I pulled the colonist from Florges and sent him to Pangasian in the Malaccas. To my extreme announace, Britain had managed to colonise the Fiji (perhaps I should have sent one there, but nevermind...) That just makes them target two...!

May 1629 - as expected, this was going to be a long war! Still, it was slowly going our way; by this point, all of Portugal's Africa provinces were under our control, and we were starting on Castille in anger.. Now, the first age power could be taken, and I took the +1 yearly absolutism for a start (though, under the circumstances, with unrest being a bit of pain, I was tempted to the -50% harsh treatment cost...) Ming also declared us their rival. Inevitable, really.

By the end of the year, I was nearly at the diplomatic cap, and I didn't want to make any large investments (i.e. technology) in order to keep things for the peace deals - so I started culture converting the lowest-cost provinces - mostly the Pacific islands.

Mid-war, had to stop to fight the RNG, which was throwing a wobbly again.

Finally, by 1630, it was all over bar the shouting. I figured it wasn't even worth going after Holland and Oldenburg - Castille and Portugal's subjugation would be enough. I thought I would have to give land to my allies, but once I looked up the favor system I had loads of favors, so that was fine. (And I was 75% expecting to be called in a sucession war by Aragon shortly, since the game kept trying to do that...)

I finally peaced out Castille, taking the Canaries and st Helena, as well as Upper Andelucia and a few island CN provinces. I could probably have gotten one or two more if I skipped the war reparations, but I decided against it. Just under 30% over-extension...

Peace with Portugal finally came. As per usual, I spent quite some time working out what I coudl take. In the end, I bord a line of my territory to Ceuta (the reconquest wargoal), meaning I now controlled both sides of the Gibralar Strait. I bored Morocoo a line to the coast as well, so they would be able to contribute much more readily for longer. Portuguese Theronis was entirely wiped out, and Sofia now only had two Protuguese provinces left, both on one landmass. I also managed to take all of the tiny islands around Telephoria, again, just leaving the mainland - much easier for them to deal with. It cost be the chnace to take all of the North Morocco region or any money, but I felt that was best. Total verextension came in nice and low at 83%.

This was good, because we had only five years before the claim on Mali expired, so that was our immediate next priority! Still, the time in which in would take to core was enough that I bought the next innovation idea.

Pulled the spy back from Portugal (hey, still got loads of claims on Spain - that's a benefit of the mission I didn't know about!) And noticed we'd got two more mechants, which Sent to new trade nodes.

Great Britain was making inroads, unfortunately, to the islands north of Austraila - but we'd have to deal with them in due course. Started work on a trio of manufactories as well.

I suppressed the Yao rebels a couple of times with Harsh Treatment - mostly for the Absolutism boost.

Native assimilation in Flores...

Fighting with the RNG...

November 1632 - the Castillian cores finished. They were at about low thirties autonomy, so I upset every one re4ducing it (mostly for absolutism again, though it does mean I'll have to leave a shapr eye on that region...)

Diplomatic tech 19 came at the start of the next year. This allowed better light and heavy ships. I had held off upgrading the heavies until now (rightly so, since I only needed to pay once!) and I was considering the lights, depending on how much it would cost...

Come February, all the coring was done. I actually realsied that stating the Azores, canaries and Madeira actually gave me more cash than Upper Andelusia, as there was quite a bit of development between them. I ummed and erred, and checked that the sucession war now now unlikely (the king of England now had a baby son), so I could afford to not need 48k or troops for an emergancy, so they could stand by to do some revel supressing - so I reduced the autonomy.

Noep, to expensive to upgrade the light ships; maybe later!

March, and it was time to wrap up Mali.

...

When the diplomat got back. (There was a spy there already.)

Recalled a couple of colonists and sent them to the Malaccas (Cagayanb, penultimate province) and Africa (Highveld).

On the 24th of May, the final storming of Mali began! (after fabricating one more claim for good measure...!)

Kongo keeps giving us gifts! And to be fair, it IS working...!

Paramount Priest Acnonios became an archtectural visionary (-10% building cost - it'll do!)

Visayas finished, so I pulled a colonist and senty him to Ilocos, the last Malacca province. That's done!

By September, it was all done. Mali, having been stripped before, fell effortlessly. I shoved a couple of provinces Morocco#s way (since that finished a state for them - and I was running low on states!)

The coring cost was so pitiful, that never mind dealing with Brunei next, I took the next Admin tech (19 - more immediately useful than the next idea). Now we could upgrade the temples to cathedrals! So I got right on that and started a load.

Oh frack! I'm such a dimwit! I've got four colonists, not three - so one's been sitting idle instead of colonising stuff or helping! Nevermind, dispatched one to Ambon (highest dev proivne in the immediate Molaccas region).

In December, we started the final assault on Brunei.

By July, Brunei was gone (it might have been sooner, but I dealt with it with just one 12k stack), and the first set of rebels in Granada had been crushed.

After a lot of thought, really, the next option had to be a refractory period - and a bit of naval build up - because the next target would have to be Britain.

September, 1634, and just as the first batch of cathedrals were finished, the price of silk rose +25%. Neat.

Started a mission to get the Commonwealth (rival our rival) to 100 relations. Burnt some sword mana on Harsh treatment of rebels for the absolutism boost.

December 1635 and Acnonios died. Ephron Alcetid (6/6/4) became Paramount Priest and Nikandros Sosiclid 5/2/2 5/6/6 became the new heir (as usual, a merhcant's son. Especially becase the cash boost was kinda required, since we'd accidently eoght colonies, so until one finished, we were running on a negative.

And wee shall it it there, with the personality to be decided, because I can't be bothered to fght the RNG more anothe however long tonight - as usual, as it comes up to quitting time, it is then it throws the most barney...

DigoDragon
2017-06-25, 09:54 PM
WAS THAT WILLIAM SHATNER?!

Was... That... William Fracking SHATNER?!?!?!

And also,
Besides Shatner, Pear Butter was voiced by Felicia Day.

Pendulous
2017-06-26, 03:45 AM
And also,
Besides Shatner, Pear Butter was voiced by Felicia Day.

I think her role is getting over shadowed by Shatner's, even though her voice was awesome and SHE SANG A SONG.

Manga Shoggoth
2017-06-26, 05:48 AM
I think her role is getting over shadowed by Shatner's, even though her voice was awesome and SHE SANG A SONG.

That's probably because Shatner is far better known. At the very least I knew him for Star Trek and T.J. Hooker, wheras I had never heard of Felicia Day at all.

Of course, Shatner is also known for his singing skills (in particular doing a cover of Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB3uVARNhmM)). Fortunately Felicia Day did the singing here.

Of course, as a non-USA/Canada person I am not going to be familliar with most of the guests. Off the top of my head I only recognised John De Lancie (From Doctor Who and Torchwood) and "Weird Al" Yankovic (and then, only for one song).

Aotrs Commander
2017-06-26, 06:43 AM
That's probably because Shatner is far better known. At the very least I knew him for Star Trek and T.J. Hooker, wheras I had never heard of Felicia Day at all.

Of course, Shatner is also known for his singing skills (in particular doing a cover of Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB3uVARNhmM)). Fortunately Felicia Day did the singing here.

Of course, as a non-USA/Canada person I am not going to be familliar with most of the guests. Off the top of my head I only recognised John De Lancie (From Doctor Who and Torchwood) and "Weird Al" Yankovic (and then, only for one song).


Indeed.

I've heard Felicia Day's name, but I couldn't put a face to it, nor have I clue what she's been in.

DigoDragon
2017-06-26, 06:43 AM
Of course, Shatner is also known for his singing skills

and "Weird Al" Yankovic (and then, only for one song).

Shatner is an interesting actor. He's often poked fun of for disjointed speech and hammy acting, but he's also lived for it and he really knows how to act drama. This man is like great and terrible at the flip of a switch and that's what's interesting. His performance here is really good. Like, you can feel the pain of having waited too long to come back to Ponyville.


Only one song for Al? Okay, i'm curious, which one? :smallamused:

Manga Shoggoth
2017-06-26, 08:32 AM
Shatner is an interesting actor. He's often poked fun of for disjointed speech and hammy acting, but he's also lived for it and he really knows how to act drama. This man is like great and terrible at the flip of a switch and that's what's interesting. His performance here is really good. Like, you can feel the pain of having waited too long to come back to Ponyville.

Oh, indeed. He has covered a number of things, including writing. I don't care for much of his output, but I acknowledge that he has done a lot of things, and often done them successfully.

And yes, his performance as Grand Pear (grandpere? - I love the bilingual pun) was indeed excelent. I especially liked the fact that I couldn't tell it was Shatner - they didn't try to play on his more famous roles.

A notable difference with John De Lancie/Discord/Q, where the similarity between the two roles was deliberate (if I recall correctly, Discord started off as something of a homage to Q, then they managed to get John De Lancie to do the part)



Only one song for Al? Okay, i'm curious, which one? :smallamused:

Everything you know is wrong (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KThlYHfIVa8), which ironically I was introduced to by the MLP fandom (specifically the episode 100 review by Josh Burner). What goes around...

DigoDragon
2017-06-26, 10:44 AM
I especially liked the fact that I couldn't tell it was Shatner - they didn't try to play on his more famous roles.

I'll admit that I didn't know it was Shatner either at first. :o



Everything you know is wrong (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KThlYHfIVa8), which ironically I was introduced to by the MLP fandom (specifically the episode 100 review by Josh Burner). What goes around...

That's a fun song. My introduction to Weird Al came from the original animated Transformers Movie. Something few people remember that he actually had a song in (Dare to be Stupid (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrMbkbTPrPA)). :smallbiggrin:

digiman619
2017-06-26, 11:22 AM
That's a fun song. My introduction to Weird Al came from the original animated Transformers Movie. Something few people remember that he actually had a song in (Dare to be Stupid (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrMbkbTPrPA)). :smallbiggrin:

I've been a long time Weird Al fan; I actually owned CDs and cassettes of his in high school (which should tell you a) how much I liked his music if he was an artist I owned media from during the super-angsty "everything I like is a deep insight to my inner turmoil" high school period, and b) howw old I must be if the media storage of choice back then were CDs and cassettes). And while Dare to Be Stupid is a classic Weird Al song, if we're being honest, that's not the song we assosiate with the movie. This one is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSh73d3TZcA

Pendulous
2017-06-26, 04:02 PM
Only one song for Al? Okay, i'm curious, which one? :smallamused:

While I'm definitely more familiar with Weird Al, the only song I know by heart is The Adventure Begins. The odd part about this is that I'm not even a Star Wars fans.

DigoDragon
2017-06-26, 07:59 PM
A brilliant comic (http://orig07.deviantart.net/7708/f/2017/175/c/4/the_life_i_never_had_by_edowaado-dbdvcxh.png) that pears well with episode 13, Perfect Pear.



And while Dare to Be Stupid is a classic Weird Al song, if we're being honest, that's not the song we assosiate with the movie. This one is:

You got the touch... you got the poooowerrrrr!

Yeah, that's the iconic theme of the movie. ^_^
I miss the wonderful animated stuff from the 80s.



While I'm definitely more familiar with Weird Al, the only song I know by heart is The Adventure Begins. The odd part about this is that I'm not even a Star Wars fans.

Interesting. I don't know that one to well. Maybe the first lines. His older stuff i'm more familiar with.

digiman619
2017-06-26, 08:13 PM
While I'm definitely more familiar with Weird Al, the only song I know by heart is The Adventure Begins. The odd part about this is that I'm not even a Star Wars fans.

Interesting. I don't know that one to well. Maybe the first lines. His older stuff i'm more familiar with.

I have run into one of the problems with conversations online: I know that song by heart, but if I quote, it, there's no way to prove that I didn't look it up.

Draconi Redfir
2017-06-26, 08:27 PM
Just watched episode 13, the perfect Pear. Been crying nonstop since the song. Dear god that was amazing... ;_;

digiman619
2017-06-26, 08:52 PM
Just watched episode 13, the perfect Pear. Been crying nonstop since the song. Dear god that was amazing... ;_;

Yeah, they really needed to only spoil episode 12, or also spoil episode 14. It was an amazing episode, but a horrible, horrible place to stop.

Aotrs Commander
2017-06-26, 09:04 PM
You got the touch... you got the poooowerrrrr!

Yeah, that's the iconic theme of the movie. ^_^

It was the best theme from the movie, though I'd not say it was iconic...

But then again, I have been more or less continuously listening to the entire sound track (songs and score) on and off since the 1980s, only outside my head the moment I was able to acquire them by the magic of CDs and the internet, so I may be slightly biased.



(It is a rare occasion that a discussion about music actually broaches mast my area of interest, which consists almost entirely of sound tracks, with a particualr bias towards Star Fleet and Pokémon...)

Adderbane
2017-06-26, 09:41 PM
Just watched episode 13, the perfect Pear. Been crying nonstop since the song. Dear god that was amazing... ;_;

Now go listen to the Apple rendition of Auld Lang Syne from the MLP Christmas album

DigoDragon
2017-06-27, 05:40 AM
I have run into one of the problems with conversations online: I know that song by heart, but if I quote, it, there's no way to prove that I didn't look it up.

I can see how that is a problem, but I have no reason to believe you're lying. :smalltongue:

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2uwTD6p1Iok/WVEV2-EjxuI/AAAAAAAC0eM/59WqQ7NLC_MlYYuBxDPJjgNbjp1AP3HFgCLcBGAs/s640/nose_boops_by_scarlet_spectrum-db851g4.png



It was the best theme from the movie, though I'd not say it was iconic...

Do you feel there was one?



(It is a rare occasion that a discussion about music actually broaches mast my area of interest, which consists almost entirely of sound tracks, with a particualr bias towards Star Fleet and Pokémon...)

A large chunk of my music collection is soundtracks from various Saturday Morning cartoons throughout the 80s.


And then there's Pinkie Pie (https://youtu.be/OKjQt-xJbb4).

Aotrs Commander
2017-06-28, 04:34 PM
You ever have those times when you just don't know what you want to play? I've got loads things to play (halfway through loads of games); at least one new game untouched... But I'm at that sort of state where nothing seems to jump out, so I end up playing nothing or wasting a couple of hours of indecision, doing nothing. (Not like there's anything on TV either, since I am up-to-date with the vanishingly small number of shows I watch... And even if it was a potential DVD night, I'm sort of back to square one, with no clear idea of what I would want to watch at the moment anyway...) It's not the first time this week - even in the last couple of weeks, actually.

What do you do in those circumstances?

Spamotron
2017-06-28, 05:06 PM
You ever have those times when you just don't know what you want to play? I've got loads things to play (halfway through loads of games); at least one new game untouched... But I'm at that sort of state where nothing seems to jump out, so I end up playing nothing or wasting a couple of hours of indecision, doing nothing. (Not like there's anything on TV either, since I am up-to-date with the vanishingly small number of shows I watch... And even if it was a potential DVD night, I'm sort of back to square one, with no clear idea of what I would want to watch at the moment anyway...) It's not the first time this week - even in the last couple of weeks, actually.

What do you do in those circumstances?

Considering the site you are posting on? List them all out on a table assign numbers and roll some dice.

Pendulous
2017-06-28, 06:50 PM
You ever have those times when you just don't know what you want to play? I've got loads things to play (halfway through loads of games); at least one new game untouched... But I'm at that sort of state where nothing seems to jump out, so I end up playing nothing or wasting a couple of hours of indecision, doing nothing. (Not like there's anything on TV either, since I am up-to-date with the vanishingly small number of shows I watch... And even if it was a potential DVD night, I'm sort of back to square one, with no clear idea of what I would want to watch at the moment anyway...) It's not the first time this week - even in the last couple of weeks, actually.

What do you do in those circumstances?

I have over 600 games on Steam, over 100 installed, and still have this issue. So I'm helpless.

DigoDragon
2017-06-28, 07:37 PM
What do you do in those circumstances?

Get down on my knees and cry tears of joy that I have that kind of free time to have such a problem?

Topaz
2017-06-28, 09:28 PM
Added a new game to the Pony TRPG list (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=22094693&postcount=13)! Seeds of Harmony is a Fantasy Adventure RPG from an Italian GM who is now translating it into English. The original design used anthropomorphic characters, but there is also a full Pony variant (and hey, with the movie there are more anthros in the Pony world, right?).

Pendulous
2017-06-28, 10:32 PM
Trailer for the movie is out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2N7SRBDa2I

Does this need to be spoiled? In any case. Not sure what to think. Don't like the idea of adding the sea pony thing in there. The sarcastic joke train in the trailer seemed way too..."Disney"...

t209
2017-06-28, 10:56 PM
Trailer for the movie is out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2N7SRBDa2I

Does this need to be spoiled? In any case. Not sure what to think. Don't like the idea of adding the sea pony thing in there. The sarcastic joke train in the trailer seemed way too..."Disney"...
Well,
At least it will fulfill my Pony as Zeta Gundam,
I do mean "Commander Tempest as Haman Karn".

Balmas
2017-06-29, 01:01 AM
Trailer for the movie is out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2N7SRBDa2I

Does this need to be spoiled? In any case. Not sure what to think. Don't like the idea of adding the sea pony thing in there. The sarcastic joke train in the trailer seemed way too..."Disney"...

I'm still kinda getting used to the animation. It's better animation, to be sure, with more fluid movements and shading, but it still feels weird after roughly five years of the same animation and models.

Manga Shoggoth
2017-06-29, 02:40 AM
What do you do in those circumstances?

Read a book? Literary!

(or a webcomic - I've been binging Girl Genius)

I've had the same issue in the past month (I'm off work due to health issues) - but then I tend to concentrate on one game all the way through rather than have several on hand.

EDIT:
The animation is a little uneven (in particular between the ponies and the backgrounds), but doesn't look too bad overall, just somewhat different to the show style. At least they have remembered to pack the humour.

Interestingly, they have remodeled the throne room - two thrones now? And a Celestia/Luna statue?

Aotrs Commander
2017-06-29, 04:55 AM
Read a book? Literary!

(or a webcomic - I've been binging Girl Genius)

I've had the same issue in the past month (I'm off work due to health issues) - but then I tend to concentrate on one game all the way through rather than have several on hand.

I do normally, but of the ones on the go, two are EUIV and CK2 (with a couple of hundred - plus - hours per playthrough) and I'm not quite dedicated enough to do that all continguusly (I'm still on my first game in CK2!)

So, we're just going to Worf Celestia and Luna and ignore Cadance... Again?

(Actually, if if knew nothing about pony, you might assume Twilight was the ruler of Equestria from this trailer...)

Why is the griffon bipedal?

Spike is, at least present, if once again, getting the short end of the stick from the magic transformations...

Tempest's sidekicks strike me as being a bit too Disney. Not that I don't trust the staff, but I'm looking and I'm seeing Cliche Bumbler That is Stupid and Obsequious that I've seen far too many times before there.

Don't recognise any of the voice talent.



Yes, that was mostly negative thoughts, but at the same time, it still looks like Pony (and some bloody adventure, which we've been a bit lacking the past couple of seasons) and I am very aware of what I said before EQG, so...

I will, obviously, be going to the cinema to see it (y'know, assuming it comes to the cinema in the UK...)

DigoDragon
2017-06-29, 07:24 AM
Trailer for the movie is out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2N7SRBDa2I

Does this need to be spoiled? In any case. Not sure what to think. Don't like the idea of adding the sea pony thing in there. The sarcastic joke train in the trailer seemed way too..."Disney"...

Anyone else suddenly wanting to play a Ponified Skies of Arcadia? :smallbiggrin:

Liking Tempest. Disney-level villainy in style and that's an awesome thing in my book. :3 Interesting that her broken horn 'leaks' magic sparks. That... can't be healthy. :smalleek: Overall looks like it be a cute movie with magic and friendship and cake. I'd watch it.



Added a new game to the Pony TRPG list (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=22094693&postcount=13)! Seeds of Harmony is a Fantasy Adventure RPG from an Italian GM who is now translating it into English. The original design used anthropomorphic characters, but there is also a full Pony variant (and hey, with the movie there are more anthros in the Pony world, right?).

I'm gonna have to download it later and see how the mechanics work. I'm always in the market to test new pony systems.




I'm still kinda getting used to the animation. It's better animation, to be sure, with more fluid movements and shading, but it still feels weird after roughly five years of the same animation and models.

More like close to seven years. :o



The animation is a little uneven (in particular between the ponies and the backgrounds), but doesn't look too bad overall, just somewhat different to the show style. At least they have remembered to pack the humour.

Interestingly, they have remodeled the throne room - two thrones now? And a Celestia/Luna statue?

Guess Celestia finally got around to bringing out Luna's seat from storage. :smalltongue:



So, we're just going to Worf Celestia and Luna and ignore Cadance... Again?

Why is the griffon bipedal?

Spike is, at least present, if once again, getting the short end of the stick from the magic transformations...

Tempest's sidekicks strike me as being a bit too Disney. Not that I don't trust the staff, but I'm looking and I'm seeing Cliche Bumbler That is Stupid and Obsequious that I've seen far too many times before there.

I am curious to know how short the screen time for the alicorn sisters will be.

Maybe a different breed of griffon? Or not a griffon but something else?

Yep, good ol' butt end of the jokes Spike seems back. >.>

Pilum
2017-06-29, 05:16 PM
Maybe a different breed of griffon? Or not a griffon but something else?

Ive seen a picture of them on derpibooru which makes them look more like anthro tropical birds than griffons as such. Or, if you'd prefer, they're p-yaarrrrr-otts.... :smallwink:

DigoDragon
2017-06-29, 06:41 PM
Ive seen a picture of them on derpibooru which makes them look more like anthro tropical birds than griffons as such. Or, if you'd prefer, they're p-yaarrrrr-otts.... :smallwink:


Yup, parrots. I figured it on the second viewing.

Also, I feel like there's a lot of bipedal characters here, and lacking in quads. I wanna see ponies in the pony movie, so I'm kind of... apprehensive(?) that Tempest is the only new pony so far.

Topaz
2017-06-29, 06:55 PM
Yup, parrots. I figured it on the second viewing.

Also, I feel like there's a lot of bipedal characters here, and lacking in quads. I wanna see ponies in the pony movie, so I'm kind of... apprehensive(?) that Tempest is the only new pony so far.

Apparently the wider world outside Equestria has more bipedal species than just the Diamond Dogs and Minotaurs. Plus, don't forget the Sea Ponies!

DigoDragon
2017-06-29, 07:11 PM
Apparently the wider world outside Equestria has more bipedal species than just the Diamond Dogs and Minotaurs. Plus, don't forget the Sea Ponies!

Right. Seems like pony world isn't primarily about ponies, and I'm a little sad of this revelation. At least sea ponies look part horse, so I'm fine with that. :smalltongue:

Aotrs Commander
2017-06-29, 08:38 PM
Bleakplays Plays EUIV: Necrolantis Rises!

Necrolantis Arises! 01 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21893596&postcount=782)
Necrolantis Arises! 02 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21895575&postcount=790)
Necrolantis Arises! 03 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21902631&postcount=802)
Necrolantis Arises! 04 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21906122&postcount=804)
Necrolantis Arises! 05 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21909692&postcount=814)
Necrolantis Arises! 06 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21913218&postcount=835)
Necrolantis Arises! 07 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21916508&postcount=848)
Necrolantis Arises! 08 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21919353&postcount=869)
Necrolantis Arises! 09 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21922152&postcount=880)
Necrolantis Arises! 10 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21925786&postcount=889)
Necrolantis Arises! 11 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21933106&postcount=915)
Necrolantis Arises! 12 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21936505&postcount=927)
Necrolantis Arises! 13 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21939749&postcount=933)
Necrolantis Arises! 14 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21942069&postcount=948)
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Necrolantis Arises! 19 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21968136&postcount=1034)
Necrolantis Arises! 20 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=22130626&postcount=128)


Right. Job One: Get personality trait.

Job Two: Suppress Rebels.

Job Three: Stuff Britain...

*many reloads of suck personality later*

Nikandros became a Free Thinker. That'll do...

Late March brought the "honourable people" event, so I burned 20 prestige placating Telesphoria to reduce their liberty desire before clicking okay and thus keeping my prestige at max...

14th of May 1636 and the next innovative idea came along (a relatively useless -10% of inflation reduction costs.)

June brought a diplomatic insult from Portugal (are they daft...?) and more rebels.

By November, both we and Theronis had crushed a rebellion, a claim was made for the British colony of Fernando Po... And Castille made themselves the next target, trying to colonise right into Borneo. The mission to improve relations with the Commonwealth was donem and a new mission (to colonise Sumbawa in the Moluccas undertaken.

The rebels were being slowly dealt with as tyhey occurred. We were not far off from being able to tackle Great Britain, but I wanted Necrolantis' income to be back positive again, and that meant waiting for the colonies to ease off.

Late April brought native assimlation in Flores, which was almost complete - good!

September, and another claim on Britain was forged...

At the dawn of 1637 Flores was complete (immeditaly pushing it into the green - must make sure to only run at about six colonys now, since we'll be more likely to be taking them from other people than rushing as much now). Another revolt was being crushed (realising that pehaps the 30 year interval for raising autonomy may have been a bad idea and that maybe I should have waited to get the age power that reduced the interval by 50% might have been smarter... Nevermind!)

Native assimilation in Ambon... Followed a few months later by having to move the colony (for more base tax).

In May 1638, there was a challenbeg to the devotion of Paramount Priest Ephron - shortly followed by a careful military explanation as to why he was still devout (for a net of +2 absolution, which was now at a respectible 54/77).

We could now afford an idea, but for the moment, I was banking Admin.

One more rebellion put down... As soon as the next colony finished and we were squarely in the green, it would be tome to deal with Britain!

Time to recall our diplomat, ready!

At the dawn of 1639, all was almost in readiness. The next age power had finally come in. I debated whether to take the autonomy cooldown or the +5% administrative efficiency. I decided in the end to opt for the latter. With +1 per year absolutism from the last power, I was slowly ticking up anyway, and now I was a larger chunk of the way there. I figured better to take more territory now and then worry about increasing absolutism more down the line was best. I could forge another claim, but I was holding on to see if I culd actually maybe use a Steal Maps soon, since I was planning to land fall directly on England.

Admin efficiency was now at a nice 37%!

New general recruited... And an admiral, though our naval tradition was crap; but nevermind, he was only there to give the transports in the far east an edge over the oe or two light ships the British had there.

And we were ready! Everyone was in position of British coasts - time to cause some damage! 48k troops were poised to strike England itself.

*sigh* But because EUIV, it seemed likely that Aragon (allied to both of us and unwilling to fight either of us last time I checked) now might be willing to join the British. Because of course.

No... No, we got lucky. None of Britian's allies joined in, but Kongo was joining us. Neat.

Heh. No Nelson was going to save the eight British light ships in Dogger Bank and forty-eight transports and eight heavy ships obliterated them and nearly fifty thousand troops marched on London.

The frst battle of London was over quickly - 2000 British troops destroyed, for the loss of merely 54 Necrolantic Legionaries!

By August Fernando Po - the war goal - was captured. That should help the warscore...!

Woo! We can steal maps! Rather than steal the paltry maps for England, I went ahead and stole the ones with the most gain germany for a total of 42 provinces revealed.

Okay, Aragon decided to wade in. Annoying.

And then the RNG decided to start throwing a wobbly again in the middle of the war. No RNG. No.

The war went steadily towards us. Our colonies did okay against the British ones. As England and Ireland were entirely occupied and the warscore hit 66%, I had completed another couple of colonies and thus dispatched the colonist to Sumbawa.

March 1642 - rebels had quietly appeared in London and a couple of other places. Once again, no notification... Still troops were on their way.

I was nearing the admin cap again, so I picked the next idea.

As I moved one army to help mop up the colonies (and the main fleet to see if I could hit Aragon and force them out of the war), I dispatched colonists to Lombok and Poso and they became available.

RNG was fighting me with crap events every single step of the way. Give it up RNG, you're not having it.

Colonist to Manado and Palu...

Finally, all of Great Britain and her colonies were occupied. Rebels were being suppressed and all that was left was the siege of Valencia in Aragon, which would tick the war score to 100% (at freaking last).

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/851593544327016679/CEF3DC37087A01BA0454D798B64B783C0729DF4C/
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/851593544327017171/12257540411F15736D0DEE2BF852198568FE1D59/


Nope. I did manage to peace Aragon out (making them break their alliance with Britain, giving us money and war reparations, but nothing else (they ARE our erstwhile allies, after all...!), but we were still at 99%.

GRRRRRR. Of fracking course. The stupid little OPM Alsace, sat right in the middle of the Holy RomanEmpire, where I absolutely cannot get at it. FRAG. Dammit.

99% it will have to be then. On the 8th of May 1644, Great Britain was forced to surrender.

Good job I kept banking my points! I'd spoent a large chunk of diplo points culture converting, just to burn some off (I was saving development for institutions spreading), but by the time I was done, the war demands requried 830 diplo points and nearly 500 admin!

I forwent again and money, and just took territory. I took away of of their island colonies, the whole of British Jeneralpattern and half of British Poytrek - and, of course, London and East Anglia!

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/851593544327017773/5FA5B19A724064ADB399A71F73652662EF5AC66D/

I still had enough left, though, for the last innovative idea, formalised officer corps. Not really hugely useful (it would allow me another leader without upkeep, but now with the ideas complete, advisor costs were reduced by 25% having completed the group. I could have taken the tech, instead, but I held off. I also could now afford the next military tech upgrade, so Mil tech 20 brought in Swivel Cannons.

Refractory and rebel splatting period. I had seven years before the remaining claims on Spain ran out... But, come to that, if all else failed, I could fabricate some more.

Castille would be the next victim, though.

I could aslo now afford to spend some more money, both building a few more troops and on a load of buildings, since with my war taxes, cash was very high.

I needed to replace a few ships (the fight afgainst Aragon had not gone entirely my way, so I figured I might shunt the heavies up a little larger as well (by four). I bought another two sets of 12k troops in the far east (to bring them to the new 24k standard) and another dozen merchants to carry them. I then blew a load more on various manufactories.

And, in the last bit (because of course it has to throw one last RNG wobbly as I finish, Ephron became Midas touched (+10% tax).

In December, the many cores finished. I stated East Anglia (this is why I was saving some states, for the nice high-vlaue one in Europe!)

As we come to a close at the start of January 1646, our colonisation mission was complete, accelerating the colonies. Necrolantis got Admin 20 (and a much needed extra five states!) Ephron made English an accepted culture as - as I had expected! - after the conquest, they were now the largest majority at 7%. (And why I had been saving these culture slots!)

And the Poytrek cores now enabled us to form a new colonial nation: Ephronis!

Another two and a half years, and the next splendor age power would be purchasable - and at THAT point, I would drop the autonomy of some of the remaining areas, since it would only last for fifteen years, not thirty!

But we will leave that for next time.

Pilum
2017-06-30, 02:18 AM
Personally I share Digo's misgivings. Seeing so many anthro types is a bit jarring, feels almost lazy in the same way Ice Age 4(?) did with their bringing in apes, rather than keep with 'normal' animals (granted that ended up being the least of that film's problems personally, but still). And yet Topaz has a valid point regarding Iron Will and the Diamond Dogs. I feel they're different though; minotaurs slot in easily to the show's general riffing on Greco-Roman mythologies and 'looks', and the Dogs looked appropriately animalistic. So far the 'new' species look a bit too Zootopia/Zootropolis, in comparison, if you get me? And that cat on the posters flicking up his jacket lapels like he's trying to be in Paula Abdul's video for "Opposites Attract"... hmmm.

Pendulous
2017-06-30, 04:20 AM
Personally I share Digo's misgivings. Seeing so many anthro types is a bit jarring, feels almost lazy in the same way Ice Age 4(?) did with their bringing in apes, rather than keep with 'normal' animals (granted that ended up being the least of that film's problems personally, but still). And yet Topaz has a valid point regarding Iron Will and the Diamond Dogs. I feel they're different though; minotaurs slot in easily to the show's general riffing on Greco-Roman mythologies and 'looks', and the Dogs looked appropriately animalistic. So far the 'new' species look a bit too Zootopia/Zootropolis, in comparison, if you get me? And that cat on the posters flicking up his jacket lapels like he's trying to be in Paula Abdul's video for "Opposites Attract"... hmmm.

I told you, they're going Disney.

Although to be fair, the show is all about a fantasy environment, where anything could feasibly exist.

Manga Shoggoth
2017-06-30, 05:44 AM
While I understand the "Anthro" concerns, I'm still reasonably optimistic about the movie.

The ponies themselves don't seem to be heading down the antro route, and - with the exception of the cat - I can't really tell if the other characters should be bipedal or not.

I'm not too fussed about the lack of new ponies (I counted 2 named ponies: Tempest and Songbird Serenade). Equestria is overstocked with ponies that could be used in a movie.

In fact my major fear is that they will try and put too many cameos in to the film - this worked for Slice of Life (indeed, it was the whole point...), but if they do it in the film we may end up with something like Double Rainboom, where there were whole sections of cameo for the sake of cameo. In the trailer I saw Berry Punch, Trixie, Bulk Biceps, Party Favor and Photo Finish all doing something (as opposed to, say, Treehugger, who appeared, but was definitely background).

I'm out on Spike as the butt of the group - it has been done badly before, but it has also been done well. If they don't overdo it (and remember to give him some good parts) we might be OK.

With Bleakbane, I don't recognise any of the guest talent (this seems like a familliar discussion...). On the plus side it means that I will approach the characters with a refreshing lack of preconceptions.


EDIT: My daughter immediately recognised Sia and Zoe Saldana. I'm old...

So overall, still optimistic. I know I've said this before, but the staff have managed to pull off a lot of things where there was an expectation that they were going to crash and burn.

The worst they have done so far is EQG, and that was still good enough to go on to produce a genuinely delightful set of films and shorts. And really? This trailer looks an awful lot better the Equestria Girls trailer did.

DigoDragon
2017-06-30, 07:31 AM
I told you, they're going Disney.

Although to be fair, the show is all about a fantasy environment, where anything could feasibly exist.

Except zebras.

I think zebra sky pirates would be great. Honorable knaves of the sky, flying free and doing as they please.

http://pre14.deviantart.net/a235/th/pre/f/2016/185/a/b/zebra_pirate_by_ashley_arctic_fox-da8ppab.png

Aotrs Commander
2017-06-30, 08:24 PM
Bleakplays Plays EUIV: Necrolantis Rises!

Necrolantis Arises! 01 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21893596&postcount=782)
Necrolantis Arises! 02 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21895575&postcount=790)
Necrolantis Arises! 03 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21902631&postcount=802)
Necrolantis Arises! 04 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21906122&postcount=804)
Necrolantis Arises! 05 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21909692&postcount=814)
Necrolantis Arises! 06 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21913218&postcount=835)
Necrolantis Arises! 07 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21916508&postcount=848)
Necrolantis Arises! 08 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21919353&postcount=869)
Necrolantis Arises! 09 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21922152&postcount=880)
Necrolantis Arises! 10 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21925786&postcount=889)
Necrolantis Arises! 11 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21933106&postcount=915)
Necrolantis Arises! 12 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21936505&postcount=927)
Necrolantis Arises! 13 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21939749&postcount=933)
Necrolantis Arises! 14 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21942069&postcount=948)
Necrolantis Arises! 15 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21952280&postcount=980)
Necrolantis Arises! 16 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21955814&postcount=983)
Necrolantis Arises! 17 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21962919&postcount=1001)
Necrolantis Arises! 18 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21965313&postcount=1019)
Necrolantis Arises! 19 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21968136&postcount=1034)
Necrolantis Arises! 20 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=22130626&postcount=128)
Necrolantis Arises! 21 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=22145547&postcount=160)




Okay, war exhaustion is down, cores are done, rebels are suppressed - time to gear back towards dealing with Castille!

First job: re-ally with Aragon (since the last war apparently broke it). Means we'll have to feed Aragon some land to get them into the war, but I don't mind that particularly.

I burned a load more pennies on a new 24k army, just for good measure.

In March, the first round of autonomy increases ceased, which meant there would now be no futher rebellions to worry about. Neat.

The highly trustworthy Necrolantic people meant that state maintenance didn't require as much oversight, reducing costs for the next ten years.

Mmm. Problem. Castille was now allied to the Commonwealth, which was both rather large and far away, which would make stomping on it difficult... Maybe get them through Portugal...?

Aragon isn't interested in that, though. Still, let's see what it looks like in another few months...

Oh ho... Dionysis just declared war on Colonial Yasina! Good job lads! That gives us a potential in, and maybe just against Castille... Mmm. Maybe not.

Ahahahaha! Telesphoria just declared war on Colonial Snedsted! Excellent work, chaps! I knew slowly picking away at the enemy CNs would be useful eventually.

Okay, you know what? I'm going to let the lads alone to do their work. We're ready if Castille or Portugal jump in, but otherwise, I'll just leave 'em to win those wars on their own. Less warscore for dealing with the main pair, plus freer minions, am I right?

We've still got about five years before we lose the claims on Spain from the old mission, so I'm okay holding off for a bit. We'll take the mission to improve relations in Kongo while we wait, and I'll just keep trying to nic maps of Castille with my spy.

Heh. Colonial Yasina is being occupied faster by its own rebels then Dionysis...!

Ahahahaha! Colonial Snedsted is reduced to a single province.

Let's forge some documents for some extra admin...

Dangit. Once again can't steal any more maps. Eh.

September 1647 and Diplmatic tech 20 came in - more trade range and a little more trade efficiency.

Fracking FINALLLY! We triggered one of the trade good boosts (we've missed every other one), but now tea and sugar are more valuable, as it has become widespread among our people. (I also used the bonus prestige to recover from a quick placate rulers to keep my CN's liberty desire nice and low!) Followed a month or two later by a coffee boom! Huzzah! I elected to bank the cash, rather than start anything, since we wre but three years for the next potential instituions spawn and things could... Expensive.

Heh. England is busy with a civil war...

February 1648 and the mission to improve relations with Kongo was completed!

Right. Just do little last minute troop movement, and I think we might as well have a proper go at Portugal (and possibly through them, Castille.)

Ouch. Just before we started, the military advisor died. The last one was a -10% maintenance cost +1 leader, but none of the rest were very good, so I swallowed my pride and bought a full-price level 3 one (which will drive our monthly costs up a lot, but oh well).

'Kay - let's do this! As we do, we'll accept the mission to protect our breathen in Ceres (the Portugese colony in the Moloccos) for good measure! And now the new miltary advisor is in, let's make use of by inpmementing the policy that gives us another +20% infantry combat ability. We now have 23% discipline, +50% infantry combat ability, and +10% to cavalry and artillery combat ability. Space Marines indeed...!

Ah, screw it, let's go for straight conquest this time - not like there's a lot of colonial territory to take, so we'll use Algarve as the wargoal.

Okay, Castille is in, as is Holland - but that's it - their last relucatnat ally apparently refused and broke the alliance. Great!

Now we can get the autonomy decreasing power (and once this has settled, make use of that...!)

Ahahahahaha! Looks like Aragon is in the war, since Castille is fighting another war at the same time! Fantastic!

During the steady slog against Protugal anbd Castille, I managed to slip my force through to hit Holland.

The colonbies were starting to complete, so I pulled one of the colonists back and dispatched him to East Timor, Gorontalo and Poso. Everyone was (finally) starting to colonise the unihabited islands of Jaqo Sepri (the largest island in that group still being bitterly fought over by the Nauhuatl nations), so that would be next target fairly soon.

And we will be leaving it very shortly, as it is too late tfor the game to be - one again - playing silly RNG buggers. No game, you are not killing ANY character until the point I can replace them.

60 ducats afor two extra manpower in a province as cantonments are built, yeah, I'll have some of that.

And I think we'll have to call it there in May. Holland is halfway down (I sieged the capital down once, but apparently, I wasn't the first there and they apparently peaced out, so I've got to do it again. Portugal and Castille are crumblng fast.

But with the RNG throwing a wobbly again, I don't have the next half-hour/hour of faffing to bring this to a close, so we'll have to call it there.

Appleshy1973
2017-06-30, 09:06 PM
S7E13 was not so bad.

Topaz
2017-06-30, 11:13 PM
Right. Seems like pony world isn't primarily about ponies, and I'm a little sad of this revelation. At least sea ponies look part horse, so I'm fine with that. :smalltongue:
The original MLP had Catrina, an anthro feline witch, so in a way this is another callback to previous generations of Pony.

DigoDragon
2017-07-01, 08:21 AM
The original MLP had Catrina, an anthro feline witch, so in a way this is another callback to previous generations of Pony.

Yeah, I remember. But there were sea ponies, flutter ponies...
Basically most critters were at least part horse.;)

Derjuin
2017-07-01, 11:24 AM
Yeah, I remember. But there were sea ponies, flutter ponies...
Basically most critters were at least part horse.;)


There were lots of not-horses too, you just gotta look hard enough :smalltongue:

Like this hippo:

https://derpicdn.net/img/view/2012/6/30/26455__safe_screencap_ace_lancer_teddy_my+little+p ony+tales_the+great+lemonade+stand+wars_anatomical ly+incorrect_animation+error_faic_g1_hoers_lolwut_ n.jpg


and this duck:

https://derpicdn.net/img/view/2014/7/24/682514__safe_bedroom+eyes_cheerilee_balloon_faic_g 3_nightmare+fuel_hoers_rapeface_toola+roola.png


Seriously though, there was also Princess Porcina and the raptorians, Hydia/her daughters, Grogar, Megan/her friends, the bee people, giant spiders (G1 and G4, not sure about G3), trolls...etc.

Manga Shoggoth
2017-07-01, 01:20 PM
Since I have been reading too much1 Girl Genius (http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php) lately:

Mare Genius: Agatha (http://syncallio.deviantart.com/art/Mare-Genius-Agatha-357596301)
Mare Genius: Gil and Tarvek (http://syncallio.deviantart.com/art/Mare-Genius-Gil-and-Tarvek-357746457)
Mare Genius: Da Boyz (http://syncallio.deviantart.com/art/Mare-Genius-Da-Boyz-359382077)
Mare Genius: Violetta and Zeetha (http://syncallio.deviantart.com/art/Mare-Genius-Violetta-and-Zeetha-357922534)
Mare Genius: Baron Wulfenbach (http://syncallio.deviantart.com/art/Mare-Genius-Baron-Wulfenbach-358113112)
Mare Genius: Othar Tryggvassen (http://syncallio.deviantart.com/art/Mare-Genius-Othar-Tryggvassen-358595300)
Mare Genius: Bangladesh duPree (http://syncallio.deviantart.com/art/Mare-Genius-Bangladesh-duPree-359033999)



1 - Ov courze, hit can be argued dat dere his no sootch ting has "too much" Girl Genius.

Aotrs Commander
2017-07-01, 04:43 PM
I was - before I posted the next installment of Necrolantis Rises (which I'm 50% no-one is really reading, but given that as you know, once I start something, I bloody-mindedly finish it regardless) - going to post the pictrues for the Glimmership I've been doing the past week.

However, I am not uploading anything to photobucket until I can ascertain exactly what is going on (and get on their website). (If you haven't heard, they abruptly hanged their temrs of service so that if you want to hotlink from their site (the only reason you use photobucket in the first place), they want you to have a $400 per year account now. $400 dollars up from free. That is such a completely assinine maneouvre, it cannot be anything but a debilbeate attempt to drive the company to the wall. It is utterly disgusting.)

I can, for the moment, still see my own pictures - but the moment I can't, I will be getting them to give me a refund, especially since they fracked me about so much even getting THAT right.

Ye gods. You cannot go a single solitary day without some stupid excrement cracking off, can you, humans? This planet doesn't need taking over, it literally needs an omnipresent, omnipotent, unstoppable, unkillable unavoidable force standing over the shoulder of evey human and setting their thoughts and feelings on fire everytime they start even thinking on The Stupids. I tell you now, when m time finally come, you had better be afraid, because I remember everything that happens and when that day comes, death is NOT a far enough place to hide.

Right, now I've vented, I'mma go kill some Castillians a lot.

Topaz
2017-07-01, 06:47 PM
I've wiped and removed my Photobucket account and set up an imgur one, starting with my avatar for here.

Aotrs Commander
2017-07-01, 08:06 PM
I've wiped and removed my Photobucket account and set up an imgur one, starting with my avatar for here.

Given as I have two accounts (which I frag-dang paid for - one of which is the work-related Shipyards account), I am not going to do anything just yet. I'll likely give it a couple more days (see if there's any kind of retraction/clarification) before I start emailing them.



Bleakplays Plays EUIV: Necrolantis Rises!

Necrolantis Arises! 01 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21893596&postcount=782)
Necrolantis Arises! 02 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21895575&postcount=790)
Necrolantis Arises! 03 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21902631&postcount=802)
Necrolantis Arises! 04 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21906122&postcount=804)
Necrolantis Arises! 05 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21909692&postcount=814)
Necrolantis Arises! 06 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21913218&postcount=835)
Necrolantis Arises! 07 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21916508&postcount=848)
Necrolantis Arises! 08 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21919353&postcount=869)
Necrolantis Arises! 09 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21922152&postcount=880)
Necrolantis Arises! 10 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21925786&postcount=889)
Necrolantis Arises! 11 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21933106&postcount=915)
Necrolantis Arises! 12 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21936505&postcount=927)
Necrolantis Arises! 13 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21939749&postcount=933)
Necrolantis Arises! 14 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21942069&postcount=948)
Necrolantis Arises! 15 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21952280&postcount=980)
Necrolantis Arises! 16 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21955814&postcount=983)
Necrolantis Arises! 17 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21962919&postcount=1001)
Necrolantis Arises! 18 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21965313&postcount=1019)
Necrolantis Arises! 19 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21968136&postcount=1034)
Necrolantis Arises! 20 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=22130626&postcount=128)
Necrolantis Arises! 21 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=22145547&postcount=160)
Necrolantis Arises! 22 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=22149112&postcount=165)


So, literally the first thign that starts is the coldest perod of the little ice age notifcation dropping the price of fish and stuff for ten years.

By February 1651, Castille was subdued. Holland was still holding out. Annoyingly, Castille's warscre was only at 55%, so we were going to have to wait for them to peace out with Aragon (and then hopefully stomp them down) while out troops kept them behaving. (Fortuitously - or maybe not - I had dispatched my troops to sit on the Aragon-held land and that had killed one rebellions right away. In hindsight, a shame it didn't trigger before I got there, else I could have let the rebels have it and then took it, but never mind.

Another coloy finished and I sent the colonist out to the Moluccos - just two more provinces to go, and that would be solidly in our hands). I was not pulling any back yet, since I was expecting to get one or two from the war.

I was forced to burn some admin on development, since I was at the cap abnd the new instituion was not in yet.

In March, Holland was finally down. I debated what to do with them. I could take both provicnes for some over-extension... Or I could vassalise them. It would bring me over my limit, but influence idea were next and thne -1 drain was still less than the cost of integrating Songhai before getting the idea group (35's year's worth at 422).

June, and Castille peaced out of the other war - jst in time to be occupied by the waiting Necrolantic forces!

By April of 1652, I was ready to force them to peace ut myself. I opted, in the end, to only take Sevilla on the mainland (that would give me access to Portugal) in addition to the colonies in the far east and instead to take more land from the two Castillian colonials nations in Mammuyskin and Rat Cove (putting mine in a better position for next time.) My spy network was at 100, so I fabricated three claims (to replace the mission ones which had now timed out).

As soon as the diplomat got back, it would be Portugal's turn!

I took all of their colonies, finally eliminating the last vestiges for Sofis and Telesphoris - which left me enough to take all for state of Alentejo in Portugal itself, and another three states from north Africa - and I was at only 82% overextension! Nice!

I also had about seven thousand cash in the bank, too. Neat.

Next job would be another round of autonomy decreases (and rebellions) , but hopefully this time, they wouldn't last nearly as long, thanks to the splendor age power!

Down to five colonies, so I swiped a couple back and sent them to the Moluccas (dang, I miscounted - one more to go!) Double whoops, bit too hasty, I forgot a colonist was one the way. Nevermind, the extra cost will hurt for a bit, but it's not like we're short of cash - and now we want a bit of a refractory period (though the next conquest will be Malacca in the far east anyway). Also, the diplomatic points were well in the negatives!

Took the mission to get 100 opinion with the Commonwealth (again), because it would likely not take long.

At the dawn of 1653, the new instution, Manufactories, started in Anqing in Ming (because of course, I had no bloody chance, thanks guys who made it impossible for islands to get it). But never mind, as it spread automatically from manufactories, I had is started immediately. And - hilariously - thanks to Cape Verde's insane development, that got it at 9% per month. So, I could afford to give it a year or few to get it started. I would JUST be able to get Mil tech 21 early next year - befgore the penalty kciked in, and Admin was going to come very shortly this year as well. (Diplomatic was going to lag but never mind.)

Admin 21 came in in March, for another +5% production efficiency.

One more claim on Castille (since I'd only need to add 10 to the network after the 100), and then the diplomat could go to the Commonwealth.

January 1654. The coring was done, Mil tech 21 was in... Now it was a case of waiting, while institutions and monarch points rolled back in.

Finally had to rival Ming (I wanted to keep the power porjection at 50 for the extra point boost).

Uniform regualtion came in, giving a permenant boost to cloth and dyes prices.

*skulldesk*

And we eclipsed France again, which put us well above the 50 power projection. Nevermind...

Paramount Priest Ephron passed some monetary reforms (not that we needed them, since we had no inflation...)

The settlement in Poro was moved for more base tax...

The diplomat in the Commonwealth hit hit max relations, so I recalled him and covered the last four point with a 200 ducat gift. This opened a missiont o build a manufactory in Bendugu, so I figured I might as well!

I dumped a couple of hundred diplomatic points into making Portuguese and Moroccan accepted culutres (maxing us out at five) for the age goal. Both cultures were only going to increase in size, and it would help - with the Portugese at least - in converting.

I noticed Castille - gluttons for punishment - had settled two more colonies in Papua - but they weren't in the trade region, so I cared rather less. Dionysis, on the other hand, has absorbed the last of Castillian Yasina.

And there we shall leave it for today!

The world 1655...

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/851593718911864458/62BC990CD5871D09DB293DBFA761E28F5968758D/
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/851593718911866381/44D18C8F0CB29FB5E8719054A12303A40D905E06/

(Good job Steam lets you upload your own screenshots...)

DigoDragon
2017-07-01, 08:52 PM
There were lots of not-horses too, you just gotta look hard enough :smalltongue:

Like this hippo:

https://derpicdn.net/img/view/2012/6/30/26455__safe_screencap_ace_lancer_teddy_my+little+p ony+tales_the+great+lemonade+stand+wars_anatomical ly+incorrect_animation+error_faic_g1_hoers_lolwut_ n.jpg


and this duck:

https://derpicdn.net/img/view/2014/7/24/682514__safe_bedroom+eyes_cheerilee_balloon_faic_g 3_nightmare+fuel_hoers_rapeface_toola+roola.png


Seriously though, there was also Princess Porcina and the raptorians, Hydia/her daughters, Grogar, Megan/her friends, the bee people, giant spiders (G1 and G4, not sure about G3), trolls...etc.


Grogar was kind of like a goat, so at least four-footed. ;)



(the only reason you use photobucket in the first place), they want you to have a $400 per year account now. $400 dollars up from free. t.

Holy Celestia's cutie mark. That is not a business decision. That is a brain aneurysm.

Aotrs Commander
2017-07-02, 09:10 PM
Bleakplays Plays EUIV: Necrolantis Rises!

Necrolantis Arises! 01 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21893596&postcount=782)
Necrolantis Arises! 02 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21895575&postcount=790)
Necrolantis Arises! 03 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21902631&postcount=802)
Necrolantis Arises! 04 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21906122&postcount=804)
Necrolantis Arises! 05 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21909692&postcount=814)
Necrolantis Arises! 06 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21913218&postcount=835)
Necrolantis Arises! 07 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21916508&postcount=848)
Necrolantis Arises! 08 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21919353&postcount=869)
Necrolantis Arises! 09 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21922152&postcount=880)
Necrolantis Arises! 10 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21925786&postcount=889)
Necrolantis Arises! 11 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21933106&postcount=915)
Necrolantis Arises! 12 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21936505&postcount=927)
Necrolantis Arises! 13 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21939749&postcount=933)
Necrolantis Arises! 14 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21942069&postcount=948)
Necrolantis Arises! 15 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21952280&postcount=980)
Necrolantis Arises! 16 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21955814&postcount=983)
Necrolantis Arises! 17 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21962919&postcount=1001)
Necrolantis Arises! 18 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21965313&postcount=1019)
Necrolantis Arises! 19 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21968136&postcount=1034)
Necrolantis Arises! 20 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=22130626&postcount=128)
Necrolantis Arises! 21 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=22145547&postcount=160)
Necrolantis Arises! 22 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=22149112&postcount=165)
Necrolantis Arises! 23 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=22152006&postcount=173)




First thing, I did a little bit of spending, having gotten some idea of how much I needed to burn. I built four universities in varied spots (principally so they would serve as hubs for the final instituion) and a couple more manufactories - and sunk some development in Tarakan in Brunei (which took it from 29 to 30).

Then back to waiting for the monarch points to build, the institution to spread and more cash to come in.

Total income was 314 at this point the by-the-by. (I assume this must be the Ideas Guy goal, since getting a net income of 500/month seems rather... Improbable (or I already achieved ages and ages ago when I got over 500 ducats for a month because of cash taken in a war!)

February 1656 and the Ottomans suffer the Janissary Decadence. That ought to keep them out of mischief for a bit!

After a bit of juggling, the end of the year, I helped suppress a rebellion in Ephronis, before sending the troops back to the far east.

We were back down to seven colonies now, so that increased the cash inflow a good chunk. (Though we HAD been at positive this time!)

April 1657, and we were in position to spend the 6000 ducats to embrace manufactories! (Ouch, but we had enough with some spare!)

Right. We had some monarch points back now - time to start recalling diplomats and looking towards Malacca!

June, and the nexrt splendor power was available. Most the ones left were not all that useful, so we opted for the one which reduced harsh treatment costs for suppressing rebellions by 50%.

Portugal was trying again, now on Austraila...

Guuuh. It was going to take another two years before we could fabricate on Malacca. If I knw it was going to take that long, I'd have started sooner. Dammit. This is the problem with having to fabricate claims instead of having the blanket cassu belli that was the old finishers (though to be fair, I'd have had to pick expansion ideas).

Mmmf. And they are tributary of Ming, which complicates matters.

*sigh* As I don't think I feel like trying to take on Ming for a while yet, we'll abandon that and go for Siak instead. Unforuntately, it means the colonies they have are splitting across our territory.

By the time we've done that, we might be ready to start looking at chopping some more out of Great Britain...

Wonderful. A spy network in Siak would ALSO take two years. In fact, we have an easier time building a spy network in Great Britain. Mmmhmm. This is definitely the point the changes to the number of states and the cassu belli are starting to show, and not in a good way. (As I expected.)

Screw it, then, we may as well leave the spy in Malacca and start a network in Britain. By the time the truce has ended, the Malacca claim should be about done.

Hell, will be getting towards having influence ideas by that point...

The colony at Gorontalo finished (one with a colonist), so I sent the colonist to Hanuabada, the last uncolonised province in Papau. Next job would be dispatching the colonists to Jaqo Sepri, as France was building a CN over there.

I decreased the autonomy in the Portugusese states (apparently, I had't doen that earlier). Absoluteism was as maxed as it was going to get (77), but I figured I mayt as well deal with the rebellions as not.

Built some more manufactories...

At this point, I was going to try and run with just six colonies at once. The bulk of the priority fighting was done, so I could afford to relax a bit, and more money coming in would allow my a larger army. (Something I would so need if I was going to be at war with Ming at any point!)

I was now figuring that Ming would be the principle end-game boss. I was also figuring that I... am probably not going to do as well as Portugal in my first game. The claim checks, institutuions and all the other things were doing a good job of hamstringing my advancement. (The new world being an archpelego, not a continent, probably didn't help all that much, either!)

On 13th November, Ephrod died, making Nikandros Sosiclid 5/6/6 Paramount Priest. As was tradition, the merchant's son Sophocles Zosimid 2/4/2 5/5/5 became heir. I burnt the the windfall of cash on more buildings.

The manufactury mission was completed. The new mission was to colonise Grutbo in Jaqo Sepri (for more colonial speed). As the colony of Manokwari was almost complete, I swiped the settler and sent him out immediately.

Sophocles became a an intricate webweaver (+30% spy network construction). After kvetching about the slow speed, I figured so it, and went with it.

January of 1659 and we fabricated a claim on the British province of Yorkshire (their current capital). Britain at the moment had no allies, so this would hopegully be a nice easy war...! And by the time the truce expired, the claim on Malacca would be done and the diplomat ready to declare.

Morocco sent us a diplomatic insult. Which we completle ignored. Don't worry lads, you time to be absorbed will come - but just not quite yet.

The truce expired, the claim in Malacca was made - now we just had to wait for the diplomat to return.

The liberty desire of my CNs was quite low (my army I think was doing it), so I felt able to start shoving the tariffs up a bit again.

On the 6th of September, 1659, we marched on Great Britain once again!

As we marched through Britain, one of the colonies finished, bt I held off assing them for the moment, since with the British ones, we could easily go over a sane limit.

As the war raged, the colonial nation of Nikandris was formed in Jaqo Sepri.

In February 1661, we had hit 99% warscore. It did not seem worth faffing about occupying Ireland and the outlying islands for the extra 1% (especially as we wouldn't be able to completely take it all anyway. So, once again, we settled for taking all of their colonies (and eliminating British Poytrek), plus Northhumberland and Derbyshire (and the province of Kent) for 75% overextension. Once again, this left no room for cash, but nevermind! We had enough spy network to fabricate a cou7pel fo claims (for next time!) before I recalled the diplomat home.

Now, with Admin 22 and the next idea group not that far away, major wars would have to wait. There were a couple of OPMs left up in Poytrek/Mammuskin, so I figured I'd go deal with them next.

Six more years and we could go at Portgual/Castille et al again!

Burned some more cash on various buildings and then picked one of the closer former British coloines and sent my colonist there to speed things up. Set one of the diplomats off to start work on the Siak netowrk for claims.

I picked up Diplmatic 21 in June 1661. Nothing very useful (which is why I'd left it later).

Whoops, forgot I was going to deal with the OPMs. Ah frack it, can'r be arsed to call the diplomat back, plus it'd likely take just as long to fabricate a claim on 'em.

Having recalled the poither diploamt, I had a nosey, and yes, the spynetwork would be like 0.85-1.5/ month. Not really worth it, sadly. So, while nosing around, I decided to use my Great Power ability to pay of Aragon's national debt (because why not?)

November brought (and crushed) the long-awaited Castillian rebellion.

Proving that the never learn anything, Britain slapped another couple of colonies in Poytrek. Well, if you guys WANT to be settling places for me...!

I decided that as soon as the next couple of colonies finished, I'd invest in another 24k army. With eight on the go, we were still at +38/month.

A colony finished and left a spare colonist, so I sent him to Humbarklan next to Nikandris.

The cores finished in April 1662, so I stated, handed off to estates and reduced autonomy. (I'd got three stacks there at the moment, plenty enough to handle the rebels!)

Started on the new army in August.

I had a lot of sailors now, so perhaps I could afford to build a second heavy ship fleet eventually for the far east. That damn "make the fleet 75% of the force-limit" had stayed consistently every time I got a new mission - but as that would require to more than double the size of my fleets (as the limit was now five shy of five hundred) that seemed... Still pointless. But the fact it reduced my mission choices to two every time irritated me.

Speaking of, colony mission completed - the new mission was to turn the colony of Ninilchik into a colony. (Because the "conquer the whiteskins" mission was a bit pants.)

Next military tech was miles off, now unrest to especially worry about and near-max mil power cap - time to do some miliatry development, I guess!

Ready to forge a claim on Siak...

Whuh? THAT's why I never got 100% on Portugal! The two islands next to Siak I thought were theirs were Portuguese! Dammit, the colour is so similat. Blast it all! Next time, Portugal, next time!

As soon as the heavy fleet arrives - just to give some cover for the transports - we'll deal with Siak!

Perfect timing - the fleet arrived, and the diploat that had been on improve relations with allies was returning! Right, let's do this!

Huh? One of the armies appears to have 8 horse and four infantry, not eight infantry and four horse... Welp, hire some more infantry and the horses can be the basis for another 24k army then...!

And off we go!

January 1664, and as the admin was near the cap (I'd kept it just below until the new year), I grabbed Admin 22! Finally, the next idea group! (Though the ideas would ahve to wait until after this war...!)

Sent a colonist to Africa, still got some provinces to fill in!

November brought a new splendour power - out of the remaining options, I picked the one that allowed an edict to reduce devastation. Doubt I'll ever use it, since I never remember to use edicts, but the other were even more useless.

I got 96K troops sat on Siak's capital. Because Siak was so narrow, they couldn't go anywhere else, so I just had to sit on it until it was sieged down.

Now we were just picking Siak's last fortification... Another colony done, and a new one started in Minang, since Portugul was trying to colonise Austrailia now...

April 1665 - still siegin'...! More buildings...

October, and Siak's last fort was FINALLY down... But their ally Pattani's, was not. As I was near the military cap (new technology next year in January, when the cost came down), I thought "sod it" and used 50 mil power to create a breach.

January brought a rebellion in Kent - 40k troops verses my 24k (and a two star general). We won, but it was close. There was a brief rebellion in Siak (because the war had been going on THAT long)... And Mil tech 22 came in, bringing with it Coehorn Mortars!

Well, the truce expired, so we can go deal with Portugal Castille whenever I feel ready...!

June 1667 and FINALLY we were at 100%. Time to deal with Pattani - and the Siak! After that faff - full annexation for Pattani's two provinces!

It was September before thr diplomatic was back...!

I coud ahve taken all but four provicnes, but that would have dangerously put me to over 100% over-extenstion (and I had about 21% from Pattani).

In the end, I took enough to get e to 98% overextentension - leaving them with six provincess - three either side of a strip of my land - and cash and war reparations. I fabricated a couple more claims for the spy network then called the spy back.

Coring refractory period now...! Dispatched a colonist to Ketchum in Jaqo Sepri, just to keep that ticking over.

First influence idea - +25% income from vassals! (I don't THINK thsat includes CNs...?)

November 1667 (after some time battling the RNG...) and we replaced the dead military adviser with a much more useful -10% maintenance one. The colony mission completed, giving us a well-tomed reduce overextension mission. I also pulled one of the colonists off one of the nearly-done colonies and sent him to Yolngu in Austrailia.

I also recalled the colonist from South Africa cand sent him to the adjacent province, keeping up the six colony level.

I started building some heavys ship to go to the far east, and I considered upgrading my light ships - but thier next upgrade was only another couple of tech levels aways, so I didn't bother.

More armies! (Well, one more.) We can never have enough...! (Actually, this would bring me to within 15 of my maximum force limit. Until I upgraded all my regimental camps anyway...)

November 1668 and Nikandros became Midas-touched (+10% tax).

April 1669, and the coring was complete! Now we can once again start lookign towards Portugal! To that end, with the overextension mission done, the conquer the whiteskins mission conveniantly gave us one more claim. Just as case of moving a few troops around, and we'd be ready!

Another colony done, so one colonist recalled and sent to Wadjuk in Austrailia...

Okay, in the close of 1669, Necrolantis was ready to strike - and Aragon was quite happy to join us this time. Neat!

This time, it was pretty straight foward. Less to subdue, and with Aragon helping, we marched much fastest through Spain, Portugal and Castille alike falling before us!

The task that would take the longest, unfortunately, was subduing Castillan Rat Cove. So, it bcame a bit of a rush around, while in Spain, the troops suppressed rebellions and a couple of armies marched to secure Rat Cove.

February 1673, and annoyingly, we were having to deal with rebels, just preventing us from getting that 100%. Still, permenant navies was intigated, giving a +50% boost to the price of naval supplies.

The game really, really, really does not want me to have that last 1%, it is throwing such a wobbly...

But to no avail, On 2nd October 1673, we got our 100%. Time to get Castille out of the running...

I took the four privicne in Castille I'd got claims on (since by the time this truce expired, they'd be gone), the colonies in the far east, the Castillain Mammuskin colonies they thought they could sneak past me on a nearby island, and three more provinces of Castilain Rat Cove. I'd have taken more if I could, but that was my limit and at least in included their capital. I had just enough to grab some cash and we were done. 23.1% overextension. Let us see what we can get out of Portugal...!

A lot actually! I ran out of warscore before I needed to worry about overextension. I took all but five provinces - two of them were now landlocked (one entirely within my territory and Ifini was isolated except by sea by Necrolantis and Morocco. I fabricated another three claims before pulling the diploamt out to be sent over to do another rival of my rival mission with the Commonwealth again.

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/851593928490665033/1BB45C86291F8D4238E61941926A4117CEFB8B83/

Next would be a period of cooling off. The next victim would have to be Malacca, but first, I wanted to get the influence ideas cracking on with, especially while I still had a leader that reduced their cost.

I had a ridiculous amnount of cash now, so I first made a new army, which took me effectively to my limit. Then I built some more merchants ships. Then I built a metric boatload of builidngs, mostly upgrades, but with a couple of universities and manufactories for good measure.

May 1674 gave us the new influence idea - a fairly useless prestige boost and chance og a new heir - the nect one was the next biggy, though.

Late 1674 saw Morocco insulting us again. That's cute. It's almost like they think they have a choice about what happens to them!

Oh - surprise! Aragon gave us a call to arms to Savoy, Riga and the Livonian order. (And possibly France...)

Well, summat to do, I guess...!

Noep, France decided to break theor garentee with Savoy. This should eb a ncie easy war, then...! (He says hopefully...!)

Rival mission done and a colonial mission to colonise the last province in Austraila started...

Oh, that's nice. Necrolantis botanist have been hard at work, brining some extra amdin and presige with their floral catalogues. (Time to sneak in a libtery desire reduction at the same time...!)

Ha! I occupied the Livonian Order's capital and the immediately peaced out! Grand.

And shortly thereafter, Savoy surrendered to Aragon. We got a bit of pennies out of it, and some favours. But hey, I'm cool with lending them a hand nw and again in a little war like this!

Colonist to Limpopo in Africa... 'Nother one to Jaqo Sepri...

Deceber 1676 and we got the next influence idea - intergrated elites: -25% to diplomatic annexation! Right, NOW it's time to annex Songhai!

And to finish, Admin tech 23 (10% production efficiency, +10% administrative efficiency!)

Not a bad run at all!

Adderbane
2017-07-03, 10:37 PM
Yorktown (https://youtu.be/emZfL7QUTMQ)


Whoever made this series did a really good job.

MLai
2017-07-04, 02:19 AM
Hey, nobody talking about the 3 Equestria Girls specials?

(1) Dance Magic has got to be the best one out of the 3.
(2) Sci Twi is gonna steal High School Detective from Sunset too?! Is Magic Science Alicorn Genius not enough?! Leave Sunset something~!
(3) If it takes Starlight Glimmer barging onto Earth to make Sunset Shimmer and EQG more canon, then I'll take it.

b_jonas
2017-07-04, 04:28 AM
Hey, nobody talking about the 3 Equestria Girls specials? We did talk about them, although surprisingly little. Talk starts near the end of the previous thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?513299-My-Little-Pony-XCVI-Long-Live-the-King&p=22092647&viewfull=1#post22092647) and continue into the start of this thread.

DigoDragon
2017-07-04, 09:27 AM
Yorktown (https://youtu.be/emZfL7QUTMQ)


Whoever made this series did a really good job.

Sit down, Pinkie (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLMrsAjd3ag). :smallbiggrin:

Aotrs Commander
2017-07-04, 09:45 AM
Time to once again ask for some brain-picking!

As part of the quest, at some point, the PCs (the Dark Lord's black ops team, as it happens) will be entering this cave, from which hopefully they may be able to glean some idea about what is going on.

So, let's give this a test. Without any further context (so with less than the PCs would have to go on), what can you get gtom the following:

The Cave
The trail leads to a deep natural cleft in the mountain, out of which a small stream is trickling. The cleft runs back and upwards into the mountainside for some distance, perhaps eighty feet, before it opens out into a cave about twenty y thirty feet wide and eight feet high.

At the back, there what appears to be an entrance to a deeper cave. This appears to have once been sealed by a rock door – though door might be being generous – which was simply rolled in front of the entrance from the inside.

The door appears to have been relatively recently forced open – you can see tool marks and broken rock and dirt indicate some excavation was required.

The stream runs down the right-hand side of the cave to a bubbling spring, not far from the door.

A DC 10 Search check of this outer cave discovers one or two piles of disarticulated bone (in very poor conditions) in some of the nooks and crannies of the cave.

The cave inside is larger, perhaps forty feet deep and thrity feet wide. At the back, a small stone slab lies near the rear wall. Above it is a crude painting of a humanoid figure with a horns on their head, carrying a spear.

There are further paintings lining the walls of the cave.

Most notably, there are a number of skeletons lying in the cave. Some of them are smaller than the others. Most of them appear to have been laid out in rows near the stone slab, but perhaps three are sat leaning against the walls. Two of these appeared to have been in an embrace.

In one corner are a series of ceramic pots.

A DC 10 Heal check of DC 12 Knowledge (Relihon check) indicates that the way in which the skeletons are partially disarticulated suggests natural decay and that they are unlikely to be animated Undead. There are fourteen bodies in all, four of them smaller (children). A few beads and other non-perishable effect remain, but the majority of anything they had has dissolved with time. A DC 15 Heal check on the smaller bodies indicate that at least two had their neck expertly broken, which would have killed them instantly. (One of the hunters mercy-killed them to save them the horror of a death by thirst.)
The pots contain what appears be dried pigment.

The cave painting start at the left-hand side of the cave and line the walls. There is a noticable difference in quality to the paintings when compared to the one behind the stone slab (altar). They appear to have been done is a rush, and there and definite spots and dribbles, though the images are clear enough.
The cave paintings are as follows:

• A dog-like creature menacing a crowd of crudely-drawn humanoids.
• The dog-like creature being slain by a figure with a spear. The figure is wearing a cloak and has what appears to be a horned-animal skull on his head. This figure appears to be being directed by a second humanoid figure, drawn as if in the clouds, with horns coming out its skull and carrying a larger spear, which is pointed at the dog-like creature.
• The dog-like creature’s body is lyign next to a pool. A dog-like head is painted in the water, with lines to suggest is came from the body.
• A figure with a spear, stooping to take a drink from the pool. The dog-like head is shown to be moving towards the figure.
• The spear-carrying figure from the last painting is shown with the dog-like head painted inside its chest.
• The spear-carrying figure, with the dog-head inside it is painted and standing in the centre of the picture. On the left of the painting, is it touching a stream (from which other figures are drinking). On the right, it is in the act of passing globular objects it to other figures, which are eating the objects. In the stream and the globuar objects are smaller dog-heads. The figures towards the extremities of the picture (shown after eating or drinking) are shown with each having a smaller dog-head inside them.
• The spear-carrying figure with the big dog-head inside it, now leading a group of figures with smaller dog-heads inside them. A group of figures, are shown cowering in one corner. Some of these figures are smaller than the others, and the smaller figures are more numerous. Half-eaten globules lying next to them. The gloubles have smaller dog-heads inside them, but none of the cowering figures do.
A larger figure is drawn, with a cloak and a horned animal-skull between them and the approaching army. The figure is waving his hand over a goard. Above him in the clouds is the horned-figure from the second picture, this time pint his spear at the gourd.
• The cloaked figure is depicted as throwing the gourd at the spear-carrying figure with the larger dog head inside it, and water splashing over that figure and the army behind it. The dog-head is drawn in a fasion that indicates pain, and the figures at the extremities are shown with the smaller dog-heads travelling outwards from the bodies, also grimacing.
• The next picture shows all of the humanoid figures standing on a hill in poses of celebration. At the bottom right, one dog-head is shown looking like it is snarling and moving towards a stream.
• The next image shows the dog-head inside a figure (on without a spear), leading an army of otgher figures which this time includes smaller figures. The cloaked figure is shown kneeling down, an empty gourd and a pool of water beside him, as this figure points and smaller dogheads move towards him.
• The final image shows a smaller group of figures in a cave. The ones to the right of the painting show the figures are shutting the door to the cave. One to the left of the image is depicted as painting on the wall. At the far right of the image, outside the wall, a crowd of other figures is shown, each with a dog-head inside them. A spring next to the door of the cave also contains a dog-head. All the dog-heads appear to be laughing.

MLai
2017-07-04, 09:56 AM
We did talk about them, although surprisingly little. Talk starts near the end of the previous thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?513299-My-Little-Pony-XCVI-Long-Live-the-King&p=22092647&viewfull=1#post22092647) and continue into the start of this thread.
What? But Wiki said the specials only start airing in July? Wiki was wrong?!

In other old news, seapony queen! Seapony princess! Wooo! "I want to be where the ponies are. I want to see, want to see them dancing~"
Remarkably close to my rendition of them 5 years ago... COOL! :smallbiggrin:
Except without cutie marks... BOOO! :smallyuk:

And Mane 6 goes to them for help against invaders?
"Meesa no like da ponies. Da ponies tink they so smarty, they tink their brains so big."
"Once the Storm King takes control of the surface, he will take control of you!"
Wait, that's not a good thing to be reminded of... :smallconfused:


You know, I just realized how many fanfics/art/headcanons there were about AJ hating pears. Haha, guess all those gotta get tossed out now. ^_^
In the best way a headcanon-breaker could ever be done, though. Imagine the dramatic inner turmoil of a stubborn pony like AJ ruminating on the fact that for years she has looked down upon ponies her beloved ma belonged to. The cartoon didn't overtly linger on this, ofc. But it's there.


I like that this episode simultaneously canons the long-fan-hilaritied apple vrs pear thing, while at the same time, totally destroying AJ's sense of mental image. Half-pear. Bahahahahah!
Ha, exactly! :smallbiggrin:

Manga Shoggoth
2017-07-04, 02:56 PM
• The spear-carrying figure from the last painting is shown with the dog-like head painted inside its chest.



Alien! With Dogs!

Something - I suspect the stream/spring - is infecting the people with some form of lycanthropy. A haunted stream. The spring/stream is haunted by the spirit of a werewolf slain in the area.

DigoDragon
2017-07-04, 05:09 PM
You've got mail (http://pre09.deviantart.net/d084/th/pre/i/2017/185/6/c/service_with_a_smile_by_dilarus-dbf21kv.jpg).

I'm sitting here staring at a potato and I don't want to cook dinner, but I gotta eat and have no money to just order out. Sigh, maybe Bleakbane does have it right with lichdom.

I'm kinda beside myself.
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ovk4s_XlWZ0/WVk1XuAZEQI/AAAAAAAC0n8/-qBLN9oBiaYQwu5oXsAbcy95_lWSue4lACLcBGAs/s640/maxresdefault.jpg

Pi Pie
2017-07-04, 07:36 PM
I have been away from pony thread since last thread, page 39. I finally got to see some of the new episodes since then.

I enjoyed this one a lot more than I was expecting. I was afraid that I was going to cringe at Rainbow Dash's parents. However, they were so over the top that it stayed funny.

I also enjoyed Scootaloo's reactions. While I'm 90% sure that she is not an orphan at this point, the lines are written in such a way that she could be. And that makes Rainbow Dash a much bigger jerk.

It was kind of silly buy enjoyable to watch Big Mac try to fall in love. The fact that he wins the girl at the end by performing a practical task after listening to her is a plus.

The song battle was okay. Daniel Ingram shows his versatility, but is doesn't compare to rainbow rocks.

This one kind of felt like an internet forum argument. People were disagreeing on what they liked without really hearing each other.

Rarity's epic guitar riff was very stupid and makes no sense. However, it was still very cool, so I am glad that they went there.

The voice actors in this one seemed to have a problem. I think that they had trouble adding snarkiness to the characters' voices which could have thrown them off.

Starlight Glimmer acts completely in character reaching for magic as the solution to the problem. At least she doesn't mind control the leaders of Equestria.

The Twilight music box was fairly cool.

Evil Celestia actually looked fairly cool and was a reasonably out of control character.

Yaks having a festival to smash things is awesome.

I do like the yak stubborness to not ask for help.

Overall a reasonable episode.

Aotrs Commander
2017-07-05, 04:53 AM
So, we discovered the fridge/freezer has crapped out very late last night. (Naturally, Mum had just had a Sainbury's order yesterday.) Fortunately the caravan fridge/freezer is now working, so Dad was able to salvage some of it. The man is supposed to be coming tomorrow (along with the man to fix the upstairs toilet, which is also leaking, because you can never win, right?)

I blame whatever terrible misfortune-god haunt my mate, because yesterday I made the mistake of buying him the Pillars of Eternity expansions in the Steam sale fo his birthday and said entity cannot have something not go horribly wrong for him and clearly wanted revenge...




Alien! With Dogs!

Something - I suspect the stream/spring - is infecting the people with some form of lycanthropy. A haunted stream. The spring/stream is haunted by the spirit of a werewolf slain in the area.


That is not actually wildly far from the truth.

Anypony else want to take a stab at it before I trot out the explanation and see if there is anything I can do to refine it?

DigoDragon
2017-07-05, 05:48 AM
The voice actors in this one seemed to have a problem. I think that they had trouble adding snarkiness to the characters' voices which could have thrown them off.

Starlight Glimmer acts completely in character reaching for magic as the solution to the problem. At least she doesn't mind control the leaders of Equestria.

The Twilight music box was fairly cool.

Evil Celestia actually looked fairly cool and was a reasonably out of control character.

I think the 'problem' as you mention is that we never really see the princesses act as themselves. It's always royal business. So when they snark and talk like us commoner ponies, it seems off.



So, we discovered the fridge/freezer has crapped out very late last night. (Naturally, Mum had just had a Sainbury's order yesterday.) Fortunately the caravan fridge/freezer is now working, so Dad was able to salvage some of it. The man is supposed to be coming tomorrow (along with the man to fix the upstairs toilet, which is also leaking, because you can never win, right?)

I blame whatever terrible misfortune-god haunt my mate, because yesterday I made the mistake of buying him the Pillars of Eternity expansions in the Steam sale fo his birthday and said entity cannot have something not go horribly wrong for him and clearly wanted revenge...

You say 'The Man' and I can't help but think some dude in a black suit from a shadowy government is coming to take your fridge away.



That is not actually wildly far from the truth.

Anypony else want to take a stab at it before I trot out the explanation and see if there is anything I can do to refine it?

It seems to me that the cave paintings depict some kind of diseased 'dog creature', and a horned god sent a champion to slay it. The champion succeeded, but the creature's disease infected the water supply. Those that drank from it were afflicted, with patient zero being the controller and leading the other infected people. The gourd represents a cure? Blessed by the god and once again the lead dog creature of the group is slain and returns to infect the water once more. And now third time is the charm--the disease rears up once again by infecting the crops of a local settlement. This time there is no divine intervention to save the people. They are forced to seal themselves in a cave to avoid the infected. Here they wrote their history and slowly starved to death (or were slain in the case of the children as a mercy blow).

This civ is of course primitive and their painting of the dog heads is an abstraction to represent something they didn't understand. Lycanthropy could be possible, as Manga pointed out. Could it be something like a form of magical rabies that made people act like savage dogs?

Aotrs Commander
2017-07-05, 07:31 AM
You say 'The Man' and I can't help but think some dude in a black suit from a shadowy government is coming to take your fridge away.

What in Britain? That would only happen if the shadow government organisation actually a) got the wrong address and was looking for something entirely or b) was looking for the fridge we had twenty years ago. (Our govenment can't even keep the stuff its supposed to keep secret, let alone a secret goverment organisation. Seriously. Some years ago there was a scandal in which CDs with lots of personal data were basically left on a bus by an official...! They are not very efficient, is what I'm saying...)




It seems to me that the cave paintings depict some kind of diseased 'dog creature', and a horned god sent a champion to slay it. The champion succeeded, but the creature's disease infected the water supply. Those that drank from it were afflicted, with patient zero being the controller and leading the other infected people. The gourd represents a cure? Blessed by the god and once again the lead dog creature of the group is slain and returns to infect the water once more. And now third time is the charm--the disease rears up once again by infecting the crops of a local settlement. This time there is no divine intervention to save the people. They are forced to seal themselves in a cave to avoid the infected. Here they wrote their history and slowly starved to death (or were slain in the case of the children as a mercy blow).

This civ is of course primitive and their painting of the dog heads is an abstraction to represent something they didn't understand. Lycanthropy could be possible, as Manga pointed out. Could it be something like a form of magical rabies that made people act like savage dogs?

That is more-or-less bang on, actually.

The dog-creature in question was a cusith (on Dreemaenhyll, a (highly intelligent spellcasting) evil fey dog-shaped pertaining to disease - I've mentioned cusith before on ponythread (and in Heart of the Matter) and this is basically where they came from.

Thid particular one lived one (Sabar’Isto) this particular island and took great pleasure in tormenting the islanders. Eventually, he was defeated by a shaman of their then-hunting god-spirit. But, for unknown reasons, he was not killed, but essentially his consciousness was given new form and transformed into a magical, sentient/sapient virus.

His unconscious essense leeched into the water of a nearby spring as his body decayed. Several months later, a hunter drank from the pool and Sabar’Isto awoke. Quickly realising his situation, he began to experiment and found out he could infect others. He began to infect the islanders by dispersing himself into food and water, essentially placing them under his control. The islanders discovered that blessed (holy) water drove him out, and that he could not infect/posses those of a Good nature.

But a few months later, he returned. And this time, he had adapted, was now immune to good-aligned affects as well. As he infected all of the native people, the last band sealed themselves in the cave, painting the walls with a warning for anyone else unfortune enough to follow after. Eventually, inevitably their limited supplies ran out and they died.
Sabar’Isto was not careful with his new toys, and eventually, they all died.

In his inactive stae however, he infected the spring next to where the islanders has sealed themselves away. Some thousands or yeast later, the island has been colonised by the Not-Romans and an explorer found the cave. (He drank from the spring, because of course he did, since the spring appears BEFORE the cave with the paintings was unsealed - and chipping away at the stone to work the rolled stone that served as the seal was hard, thristy work!

So now Sabar'Isto has infected the whole island. But - he can't infect the PCs, because they are Evil. (The island tribe was small enough that there wasn't actually any evil members at the time Sabar'Isto was first active.) So the PCs will be stranded on the island until they can defeat Sabar'Isto's control - or until he adapts to be able to infect them as well!

The cave paintings are thus backstory, and hopefully a clue. (They can use UNholy water to the same effectas the hoyl water the first time, though the job is going to take more than that, since Sabat'Is to has a few hundred people to work with now.)

DigoDragon
2017-07-05, 08:11 AM
What in Britain? That would only happen if the shadow government organisation actually a) got the wrong address and was looking for something entirely or b) was looking for the fridge we had twenty years ago.

So, what if...?
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-w0-3RE1A624/WVwrPKKcWvI/AAAAAAACeVw/NGjEmjtf-JEogQdLugp3pTNr3fWsWbNHgCHMYCw/s650/RealyakbyAlinaSherl1499212477410.png



That is more-or-less bang on, actually.

Evil PCs, eh? I would be surprise if none of their plans boils down to an attempt at subjugating this virus-creature for their own gain. :smalltongue:

I don't suppose swimming in this water is any worse?
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-9h6ipJRPVpE/WVw2VZwM0UI/AAAAAAAB3d8/L3qMlxb-IxkMJx-4MyCD8k6v7NTppMTNgCLcBGAs/s640/water_wings_by_docwario-dbf3qkk.png

t209
2017-07-05, 02:32 PM
Bought Fallout New Vegas for Summer sale, (wanted Fallout 4 but will wait until complete pack came on).

DigoDragon
2017-07-05, 02:41 PM
Bought Fallout New Vegas for Summer sale, (wanted Fallout 4 but will wait until complete pack came on).

After watching the Two Best Sisters Play (https://www.equestriadaily.com/2017/07/two-best-sisters-play-fallout-4.html) video for FO4 (NSFW), I got the basic game anyway. Steam has been generally good about still giving me a fair deal if I want DLC later on.


http://img13.deviantart.net/71cb/i/2015/330/4/7/fallout_lunatia_by_vavacung-d9i2in5.png

Aotrs Commander
2017-07-05, 03:10 PM
Evil PCs, eh? I would be surprise if none of their plans boils down to an attempt at subjugating this virus-creature for their own gain. :smalltongue:

Evil is not monolithic.

(Also, as you can imagine, being, like black ops, there is a certain Aotrs-like flavour to Their Side.)

Also, and probably most pertinently, at level 4, they kinda don't have any options for even attempting that...!



Edit: I bought Witcher 3 and Victoria II in the sale (the latter apparenlty because two ridicuously long ongoing games was not enough1.

I know Thanq in particular has played Vicky 2, and wonderd if he or anypony else had some starting advice of where to begin, considering the legendary reuptedly complicated unfathomable under-the-hood mechanics...

Edit edit: The legends do not lie. Accordingly to the log, I've played 100 minutes I have NO idea about anything. The two nations that I happened to look at the budget for start out massively in the negative, as aside from dropping all the sliders to minimum (and all the txes to aximum), there seems to be no obvious way to even get STRARTED!

Does not help that the tutorial crashed.

Twice.

Bearing in mind this is not a current generaton PDX game that has a billion patches and expansions, making it somewhat easy to break the tutorial, but just two expansions.

So, looks like I'll be readin', like, the entire wiki before I do owt.



1After all that, I have pretty much abandoned that SotS 2 game. The map is just too big, it's taking too long to shunt between turns at this point.

DigoDragon
2017-07-05, 08:00 PM
The power of Friendship (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZCq1_tKz3U) (awesome animation).

Also, Friday.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-TFh0yGAV0Lw/WV2Eiwo-jII/AAAAAAACeds/F1a8KvSQc3824dfhguEn4AS4tPzVGtprQCHMYCw/s650/FridaysunsetbyDiscordTheGE1499300860081.png




Evil is not monolithic.

No, but it can be opportunistic! Or maybe my standards of evil are darker. I have been a DM for some two decades. >_>

t209
2017-07-05, 08:13 PM
After watching the Two Best Sisters Play (https://www.equestriadaily.com/2017/07/two-best-sisters-play-fallout-4.html) video for FO4 (NSFW), I got the basic game anyway. Steam has been generally good about still giving me a fair deal if I want DLC later on.


http://img13.deviantart.net/71cb/i/2015/330/4/7/fallout_lunatia_by_vavacung-d9i2in5.png
Well, I just happened to watched at when I look at the forum.
Just hope how they'll react to Celestia's spawn as a head of scientist.

Aotrs Commander
2017-07-05, 09:01 PM
No, but it can be opportunistic! Or maybe my standards of evil are darker. I have been a DM for some two decades. >_>

The problem is that the Evil sentient virus doesn't want to play with the other evil boys and girls.

And you can't make him.

I mean that literally; you REALLY can't make him. He's a virus now. So even IF anyone was in a position to use use mind control magic on him...

He's a VIRUS. An adaptive virus. Who has already shown he can adapt to metaphysical things like alignment-based effects. So simple adaption to mind-control is going to be nothing by comparison. (Assuming that he is not already immune to mind-control due right now...)

And as the end goal of the Dark Lord is not "Sabar'Isto does the Master Race..."

(Oh, and Sabar'Isto totally WOULD do that, right down to the collective laughing and waving.

...

I am totally going to maske sure I write his actual characterisation as Simms!Master.)

Double-especially after that last episode.

Lichemaster, I missed Simms!Master.

Rater202
2017-07-05, 09:18 PM
He's a VIRUS. An adaptive virus. Who has already shown he can adapt to metaphysical things like alignment-based effects. So simple adaption to mind-control is going to be nothing by comparison. (Assuming that he is not already immune to mind-control due right now...)

He's going on the "blacklight" version of my "too eat" list.

Low on the list, but he's going on the list.

Adderbane
2017-07-05, 09:22 PM
The power of Friendship (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZCq1_tKz3U) (awesome animation.

Wow...

Can't really think of anything else to say.

Wow...

Aotrs Commander
2017-07-05, 09:29 PM
He's going on the "blacklight" version of my "too eat" list.

High on the list, but he's going on the list.

Oh, I would hazard he'll be dead long before that becomes an issue. It isn't easy, but he can be killed.

Just not weaponised - at least not for a pre FTL civilisation, anyway.

Rater202
2017-07-05, 09:58 PM
Oh, I would hazard he'll be dead long before that becomes an issue. It isn't easy, but he can be killed.
There are infinite upon infinite upon infinite facets in the Kaliedoscope, Bleakbane. If I ever actually get the chance to employ any f my "too eat" plans, the fact that he's only got a few sessions to live unless your players screw it up would be irrelelvant.

They boil down a thought experiment a friend and I did back in highschool: What would it take for you be able to singlehnandedly dominate in the hellhole that is the W40K Galaxy, given the abillity to jump into any fictional timeline and move backwards, forewards, and parrelel along them.

Mine are all variations of Hellsing Style True Vampirism or the Blacklight virus from Prototype followed by eating as many monsters and things like that as I can to absorb their powers.

The blacklight ones are more detailed though--lots of differant kinds of zombies and viral mutants,
your bad guy fits right in as one of the "wait until the endgame when you're sure it won't backfire on you" ones.

Pendulous
2017-07-06, 01:34 AM
Man, this hiatus is boring. Although apparently there's a season 8 sneak peek at Hascon? (https://www.equestriadaily.com/2017/06/initial-panels-announced-for-hascon.html) Also an unnoticed interview with M.A. Larson (https://www.equestriadaily.com/2017/07/ma-larson-discusses-role-in-upcoming.html).

Everything is on hiatus or is between seasons right now. I don't really watch a lot of current TV, so it's weird for me to be waiting on so much stuff to come out:

MLP season 7, part 2
NCIS season oh-god-how-many-is-it-now
Fairy Tail season it-depends-on-how-you-number-them
Brooklyn Nine-Nine season 5
Fuller House season 3 (yes I watch it)
Little Witch Academia season 1 part 2
My Hero Academia season 3


Speaking of, have best My Hero girl as a pony. Even though she's already a frog

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Bought Fallout New Vegas for Summer sale, (wanted Fallout 4 but will wait until complete pack came on).

My total this year:

The Crew Ultimate Edition
Costume Quest 2 (already had one, but had to get the bundle because it was much cheaper)
Half-Life 1 and 2 (never played em and they were 99 cents each)
Reassembly (reminds me of a browser game I loved called Bubble Tanks)
Tales of Symphonia (add it to the list of JRPG's I might get to)
Intrusion 2
NBA Playgrounds (thought it might be an updated NBA Hangtime, but it has some major issues)
Teslagrad
Dead Cells (bought on Bundlestars because it was cheaper at the time)
Rex Rocket
Oxenfree (brony friend keeps insisting a must-play, so I bought it)
Flinthook (still trying to find the closest thing to Rogue Legacy, this might be it)
The Superfluous
Badass Hero
Flatout bundle (1-3 and Ultimate Carnage)

DigoDragon
2017-07-06, 05:38 AM
The problem is that the Evil sentient virus doesn't want to play with the other evil boys and girls.

Ah, well in light of this context then I retract my idea. Fire is still an option (https://ci.memecdn.com/3026029.gif) to destroy the virus, yeah?



He's going on the "blacklight" version of my "too eat" list.

Bleh. Not without first being fried in a light batter.



Wow...
Can't really think of anything else to say.
Wow...

Yeah, it's pretty moving. :3



Everything is on hiatus or is between seasons right now.

Aye. I think the closest show to starting up again is Rick & Morty at the end of the month.



My total this year:
The Crew Ultimate Edition
Costume Quest 2 (already had one, but had to get the bundle because it was much cheaper)
Half-Life 1 and 2 (never played em and they were 99 cents each)
Reassembly (reminds me of a browser game I loved called Bubble Tanks)
Tales of Symphonia (add it to the list of JRPG's I might get to)
Intrusion 2
NBA Playgrounds (thought it might be an updated NBA Hangtime, but it has some major issues)
Teslagrad
Dead Cells (bought on Bundlestars because it was cheaper at the time)
Rex Rocket
Oxenfree (brony friend keeps insisting a must-play, so I bought it)
Flinthook (still trying to find the closest thing to Rogue Legacy, this might be it)
The Superfluous
Badass Hero
Flatout bundle (1-3 and Ultimate Carnage)

I got...
The Witcher I
Star Wars KotoR
Castlevania Lords of Shadow
Fallout 4
Borderlands I
Dragon Age Origins
Stardew Valley
Psychonauts

Aotrs Commander
2017-07-06, 11:09 AM
Ah, well in light of this context then I retract my idea. Fire is still an option (https://ci.memecdn.com/3026029.gif) to destroy the virus, yeah?

Yeah.

The major problem is that, in an active state, Sabar'Isto can basically infect everything within a five-mile radius (through a liquid medium) of an infected (intelligent, i.e. Int 3+) creature. Sapient/sentients are effectively dominated (though he uses a light touch) and everything else infectable can be a carrier. (Beyond that radius, the cells die.) He can transfer himself (his soul/slash consciousness) to any other suitable host body (i.e. infected Int 3+ creature) at will (Assuming Direct Control, as I am shamelessly calling that). He hasn't discovered the maximum range for that yet. However, if is he forced out of a body (it is killed, unholy water is used etc), he automatically shunts to the nearest host body (infected Int 3+ creature) within a one-mile radius. If no suitable creature exists in that radius, he goes dormant, and effectively all virus cells outside the approximate radius of hs original size (about the size of a sheep - so a little bit more than a pony) die very quickly. His soul is thus "stuck" in the cells in that area, so if you can disinfect that area (like dropping his host body in an arid desert and then incinerating the area) he'll die.

His cells don't cope well with saline water, so while he can just about infect sea creatures with it (getting internal before his cells expire), he can't for example, spread through the ocean by just infecting it. (Yet, anyway...!)

So, for example, smacking the body he's in body unconscious, carting him a mile out to sea and then killing the body and incinerating/shadow-blasting the remains is one way of the PCs dealing with him. (Chucking the body overboard probably just means he'll infect some sea creature that eats it in a dormant state and remain that way until somehow, whatever part of the food chain body he's in gets eaten by a suitable host creature some arbitarily long time ahead in time. (Or Recurring Villain Set-Up, perchance) but it would most certainly deal with him in the short and probably long term!

Manga Shoggoth
2017-07-06, 02:58 PM
Yeah.

In the event that he is shunted out of a body, does that body gain partial or full immunity to him (just as people gain resistances to normal viruses)?

Can people be vaccinated (a la cowpox giving immunity to smallpox - discovered in 1796 but may habe been lore for longer)?

Alabenson
2017-07-06, 03:18 PM
I got...
The Witcher I
Star Wars KotoR
Castlevania Lords of Shadow
Fallout 4
Borderlands I
Dragon Age Origins
Stardew Valley
Psychonauts

The only game I've bought that I can think of is Dark Souls 3. I've actually been watching recordings of Team Four Star's drinking game streams and using them as motivation for my writing (every time they take a drink I write a sentence).

DigoDragon
2017-07-06, 04:40 PM
In the event that he is shunted out of a body, does that body gain partial or full immunity to him (just as people gain resistances to normal viruses)?

Can people be vaccinated (a la cowpox giving immunity to smallpox - discovered in 1796 but may habe been lore for longer)?

Unsure of the first, but I don't think you could be vaccinated against a sentient virus that adapts itself.

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The only game I've bought that I can think of is Dark Souls 3. I've actually been watching recordings of Team Four Star's drinking game streams and using them as motivation for my writing (every time they take a drink I write a sentence).

Interesting motivation. I wouldn't last long myself with my low tolerance. ^^;

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Rater202
2017-07-06, 04:51 PM
Unsure of the first, but I don't think you could be vaccinated against a sentient virus that adapts itself.The obvious solution is to "vacinate" the host with a symbiotic sentient virophage that adapts itself faster.

Then it just eats the sentient virus.

Aotrs Commander
2017-07-06, 05:11 PM
In the event that he is shunted out of a body, does that body gain partial or full immunity to him (just as people gain resistances to normal viruses)?

Can people be vaccinated (a la cowpox giving immunity to smallpox - discovered in 1796 but may habe been lore for longer)?[/QUOTE]

Short answer to both of those is no. (Same as you can't gain immunity or vaccinate against Mummy Rot - which is pertient since the effect is also similarly disease/curse.)

However Sabar'Isto DOES have to have fluid contact to infect something, since his cells cannot - like most cells - like, crawl or something (nor is he airbourne).




The obvious solution is to "vacinate" the host with a symbiotic sentient virophage that adapts itself faster.

Then it just eats the sentient virus.

Which is kinda beyond the means of a group of level 5 Evil adventurers (who are likely to be pretending to be Not-Romans) on a island whose low-hundred populaton with 1300AD technology in a low-magic zone is already all infected... They ARE pretty much (whether the convoy expedition they have infiltrated knows it or not) the top level of magic users of the entire expedition.

'Course, a large part of the Black Ops party is to be working out and planning and such. (As opposed to my often very (or very actually) explore-y other quests and/or the more monster-smacking heavy or or weekly games.) (Mid-to-high level magic could potentially solve large chunks of the problem very easily; but that is explicitly why this is not being thrown at a mid-to-high level party and I like to keep the black ops party all fairly low level. Magic can't just solve everything.)



Quest is still not fully written of course, and there may well be more information pertinent to the PCs (maybe even up to the 1 mile forced jump limit) to be parcelled out in various ways (maybe the journal of one of the recent colonist who ran away just long enough to record stuff) or from Sabar'Isto gloating during the confrontation (when they discover that just knobbling the island's governer does not, in fact release every from his spell - which will happen BEFORE they find the cave).

(And Sabar'Isto will absolutely gloat about it once revealed, since Cusith generally tend be pretty garrulous and emotional suffering is just one more thing among their repatoire they like to inflict. And overconfident - likae all bullies - when they think they are in charge. (And also like bullies, immediately switch over to cowardice when they lose control!))

Of course, FINDING that information is going to be part of the challenge, but again, literally in the wheelhouse of an uncover secret black ops brigade!

Rater202
2017-07-06, 05:51 PM
Which is kinda beyond the means of a group of level 5 Evil adventurers (who are likely to be pretending to be Not-Romans) on a island whose low-hundred populaton with 1300AD technology in a low-magic zone is already all infected... They ARE pretty much (whether the convoy expedition they have infiltrated knows it or not) the top level of magic users of the entire expedition.

I said it was obvious, not that it was easy or that they had the resources to do so--in the context of creating a vaccine.

Granted, I have spent a great deal of time plotting potential ways to inject various plagues of possibly supernatural origin into my system without it backfiring horribly latelyy, so it might only be obvious due to my current mindset.(Seriously peeps? The average person doesn't nessesarily want me getting a chance to put theses plans in motion becuase if I screw up there's gonna be one frack of a mess to clean up and limited metafictional trans-dimensionalists who can fix it.)


Though the thought occurs to me that you're probably gonna put a lot of effort into writing this and then your players are all imeediatly going to drink the tainted water and get infected.

Aotrs Commander
2017-07-06, 07:13 PM
Though the thought occurs to me that you're probably gonna put a lot of effort into writing this and then your players are all imeediatly going to drink the tainted water and get infected.

Oh, they will almost absolutely be drinking the infected stuff, given that like the first thing that will happen when the convoy arrives is that a feast is held for all the folks just arriving and food and drink will be brought to everyone! (As Sabar'Isto's specific intention is to infect the entire convoy immediately, of course.)

The plot hinges on it, actually; THEY are currently immune to infection, because they're Evil. (Sabar'Isto started out not being ale to infect Good the first time; the tribe (and later colony) was small enough that there were not - until now - that there were not actual Evil people for him to infect. So, the morning after, the PCs wake up and wonder why none of the rest of the convoy is preparing to leave... And Sabar'Isto is bemused and integued as to why they are immune... And things will sort of snowball from there. If this works, it'll be part mystery, part zombie movie and part black ops planning.

The Umbra Vigiles are the only ones able to do anything about all this, so they can get the dang convoy moving, so they can complete their ACTUAL proper assigned mission of recon on the Not-Roman colony on yhe dinosaur-infested Great Continennt...!

DigoDragon
2017-07-06, 07:34 PM
However Sabar'Isto DOES have to have fluid contact to infect something, since his cells cannot - like most cells - like, crawl or something (nor is he airbourne).

A desiccation spell would probably be a Save-or-Die equivalent for him, wouldn't it?

So dry spell, followed by fire!
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Rater202
2017-07-06, 07:40 PM
Oh, they will almost absolutely be drinking the infected stuff, given that like the first thing that will happen when the convoy arrives is that a feast is held for all the folks just arriving and food and drink will be brought to everyone! (As Sabar'Isto's specific intention is to infect the entire convoy immediately, of course.)

The plot hinges on it, actually; THEY are currently immune to infection, because they're Evil. (Sabar'Isto started out not being ale to infect Good the first time; the tribe (and later colony) was small enough that there were not - until now - that there were not actual Evil people for him to infect. So, the morning after, the PCs wake up and wonder why none of the rest of the convoy is preparing to leave... And Sabar'Isto is bemused and integued as to why they are immune... And things will sort of snowball from there. If this works, it'll be part mystery, part zombie movie and part black ops planning.

The Umbra Vigiles are the only ones able to do anything about all this, so they can get the dang convoy moving, so they can complete their ACTUAL proper assigned mission of recon on the Not-Roman colony on yhe dinosaur-infested Great Continennt...!

And if they take too long, the puppy-virus will adapt to be able tin infect evil people and it's already in their system?

I imagine part of the fun to be sitting back and waiting to find out if your evil PCs are closer ot pragmatic evil or thurough evil.(Pragmatic evil cures as many infected as posisble, once they figure out how, becuase needless bloodshed is bad for any plan that doesn't already involve slaughtering large numbers of sentients. Thurough evil would kill every man, woman, and child just in case and wouldn't feel bad about it. Thurough Evil is really close to Pragmatic Good, the differance is why you're doing it and whether or not you can still sleep at night afterward.)

Aotrs Commander
2017-07-06, 08:06 PM
A desiccation spell would probably be a Save-or-Die equivalent for him, wouldn't it?

So dry spell, followed by fire!
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Pretty much.


And if they take too long, the puppy-virus will adapt to be able tin infect evil people and it's already in their system?

I imagine part of the fun to be sitting back and waiting to find out if your evil PCs are closer ot pragmatic evil or thurough evil.(Pragmatic evil cures as many infected as posisble, once they figure out how, becuase needless bloodshed is bad for any plan that doesn't already involve slaughtering large numbers of sentients. Thurough evil would kill every man, woman, and child just in case and wouldn't feel bad about it. Thurough Evil is really close to Pragmatic Good, the differance is why you're doing it and whether or not you can still sleep at night afterward.)

Ah, it get better. Of course, the thing about them being a dirty secret black ops so below the table the good guys don't even know you exist means that they are going to have to do all this without revealing too much of their hands afterwards - especially if, for example, they have pretended to be mere shiphands/crew instead of (as in another option) replacing a unit of Not-Roman specialised troops...!. (The only good news in that regard is that recovered infected don't remember much about what happened while they were under, so they should be able to do some blagging...)

DigoDragon
2017-07-07, 06:31 AM
It's Friday!

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-eP-yUnWSqjE/WV7twb7MjGI/AAAAAAAB3pk/XvREub3j3wgTHiGbJz_mcyUj8G2JOQOLgCLcBGAs/s640/book_pony_by_rodrigues404-dbfdb2a.png


I need to install some motion sensor lights in my back yard. After the broken window incident I had buried some rocks in an inconspicuous spot just to be rid of them, but last evening while mowing the lawn someone dug them out and left them out in the open. Well then. :'

I think I'll rebury them in the front yard when I dig up the dead rose bush to plant some new flowers.

Aotrs Commander
2017-07-07, 07:26 AM
It's Friday!

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-eP-yUnWSqjE/WV7twb7MjGI/AAAAAAAB3pk/XvREub3j3wgTHiGbJz_mcyUj8G2JOQOLgCLcBGAs/s640/book_pony_by_rodrigues404-dbfdb2a.png


I need to install some motion sensor lights in my back yard. After the broken window incident I had buried some rocks in an inconspicuous spot just to be rid of them, but last evening while mowing the lawn someone dug them out and left them out in the open. Well then. :'

I think I'll rebury them in the front yard when I dig up the dead rose bush to plant some new flowers.

Apparently, it's that sort of week.

The telly in the front room died this morning (so on top of having to fix the toilet and the fridge/freezer, now we have to go get a new telly).



Also, Thoughts Were Occurring this morning, which we all know is generally bad news, as they lead to things like Northern Spy...

So, clearly Granpear has a friend who is a tailor (who is half-deer), Darned Sock. He also has a baker friend, Crusty Macaron, whose nickname is Scones. Grandpear's nickname when he was younger was Jam.

This will probably escalate.

babubala
2017-07-07, 07:38 AM
Yea I got to watch the scene and I need to state I appreciated it. How they played on all the mane 6s fears with the exception of Fluttershy. Additionally if that was said before I am sad I kinda speed perused the last 3 discussions.

DigoDragon
2017-07-07, 08:43 AM
Apparently, it's that sort of week.

Eeyup. Better stock up and head for the bunker until the weekend.
http://orig11.deviantart.net/674b/f/2013/209/c/5/hoarding_is_magic_by_ric_m-d6fm4jt.png

My saving grace is that the windows are "double-pane", so while the outer one was smashed, the inner one wasn't harmed.

b_jonas
2017-07-07, 11:42 AM
My long vacation has ended, now it's time for me to watch the two new episodes: S7 E12 and E13.

S7 E12: Discordant Harmony, thoughts as I watch.

This episode will feature Discord, which I consider a good thing.

Fluttershy is out of carrots sugarcubes, she'll have to go out on Nightmare Night!
(Discord says Fluttershy has done too much work for their tea parties.) But didn't it use to be Discord who brings the cucumber sandwiches, back in S4 E26?
That's not Cinnamon Chai's cake and tea shop from S5 E15. Either Fluttershy likes different sort of tea, or she doesn't want to go that far for tea.
"A teapot that just pours tea?" "But that's all teapots are supposed to do." Well I've seen teapots fancier than that. Ones that have a fitting sieve for tea leaves, and even one that has an inner compartment that separates the tea leaves from the water so you can stop dipping the leaves easily.
"What else do I need for the perfect tea party?" An oven, milk, honey, sugarcubes, all the ingredients for the sandwiches, and a couch? You even sang about it: "Some tea with honey from the bees / whenever you can brew it".
Hi, Pinkie! Yay, Pinkie is here to make the episode more interesting.
("Fluttershy would never be comfortable here!") We're at 8 minutes and I still don't see where this episode is heading. Shouldn't we have some sort of interesting conflict by now?
Hehe, he vacuums the lava. Because his volcanoes are so small that he can clean them with a broom, like the Little Prince can on his planet. (Also, now you're removing all the decorations you've put up so far, like in S5 E3.)
He turns the entire house to normal? What's the point of having the tea party there then? Doesn't she remember S3 E10: "Why, of course! I can't remember my house ever being this lively before you came along."
"Your garden looks positively lovely." That statement doesn't make sense in the context of inviting someone to your house. Oh, I see!
How did Fluttershy travel there?
Oh! Discord is losing all his powers because he's performed lawful acts! Now this is getting somewhere.
Um, Fluttershy, that's now how it works. Discord himself has to do the chaotic acts, not you. You can cast Atonement on him afterwards, but he has to initiate the repenting.
Fluttershy is talking to her mirror image, like in S2 E19.
Um… ok. This was a bad episode not because of any specific faults, but because it didn't try to do anything daring enough. It was just slow and boring. That's not what I'd expect from a Discord episode. Oh well.
The way you can destroy Discord by making him act not chaotic enough somehow reminds me to the stereotypical Star Trek thing of Kirk talking a computer to death by pointing out his faults. I dunno why.



Reactions to your comments later.

Update: reaction to your comments now.


Was I the only one who was wanting him to reference his being reformed as changing himself to suit Fluttershy? Because even aline about "you're not that person anymore, that doesn't make you not you" would have been wonderful. Definitely no. He's a demon of primordial chaos. Unlike humans (or ponies), he can't change alignment at all.


It must be brain-meltingly weird to be around Discord. It must really put your faith in reality to a test. Oh, as in xkcd #298: Tesla coil (https://xkcd.com/298/), or when Harry finds out about magic in Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality?

Emmerlaus: I'm glad you enjoyed the episode.


Although, he's definitely corrupted Fluttershy a bit. And vise-versa, since he actually nearly manged to destroy himself by his own hand. Which is pretty daft. Yeah.

digiman619
2017-07-07, 12:55 PM
Definitely no. He's a demon of primordial chaos. Unlike humans (or ponies), he can't change alignment at all.

Except he clearly has; he was CE when we first met him, He cares only for ramdom acts of evil and for himself. Fluttershy's reformation of him turned him CN; while he didn't go around upsetting reality just because anymore, he clearly cared about himself more than anything else. This came to a head in the Season 5 finale, where him only caring about himself backfired horribly when Tirek stole his magic. Him recovering from that was what turned him CG.

Besides, "Always <specific alignment>" characters can change theri alignment to be very different from what they started. Or do I have to bust out the LG succubus paladin from official sources? Discord clearly has problems if he ever loses the [chaotic] tag, but he can (and has) changed alignment.

Aotrs Commander
2017-07-07, 03:21 PM
*skulldesk*

So, as we arrived at Asda to get the new telly (which had to be a 43" because they only had like 32" and 43" and no 40"s like the last one...), Dad discovers that a) the battery on his key-zapper-doofer has died and b) so had one of the big car's rear stop lights.

Because OF COURSE it has.



Edit: And now it is time for Bleakbane Fails at Victoria 2.

Starting as *sigh* France. (On Thanqol's suggestion.)

I was wondering what all the onions and cheese you're wearting were in aid of. I'm hoping there's not any naming customisation, or it's just going to be Rafale Fancieheire all over again, isn't it?

...

You're going to be playing this like the French in Blackadder, aren't you?

Yes. Yes, I am.

And also Allo Allo. Possibly even Victor and Hugo.



Asterix if it REALLY goes well, but we're a bit out of time period.

Damn it, why is THAT not a CK2 mod?

Pendulous
2017-07-08, 05:52 AM
Does copy/pasting a Steam review count as doing something? If so, then I guess I finally did something.

Tom Morello of Rage Against the Machine listening to MLP songs? (https://www.equestriadaily.com/2017/07/tom-morello-of-rage-against-machine-and.html) It honestly feels like a joke.

Pi Pie
2017-07-08, 04:31 PM
I just saw the Equestria Girls episodes. Thoughts.

Marshmallow human eating ice cream and crying is almost as awesome as marshmallow pony eating and crying.

It seems very risky to use all the money that they have raised so far on costumes for the contest. If they lose, it could also be considered fraud.

The music number was okay. It seemed like there was less budget for these episodes than the movies. That affected the quality of the animation and music.

The idea of CHS and Crystal Prep working together on the movie was an interesting ending. I didn't see it coming, but it kind of makes sense. Although the Crystal Prep students look like complete @$$holes since they need money for a party on a yacht. That does not really compare to raising funds to repair a summer camp.

Overall enjoyable.


They could have used a different actress for Daring Do. If that was a real movie, than I would have a hard time seeing that actress as an adventurer.

It is nice seeing the girls have access to their magic powers.


Let me start by saying that Sunset Shimmer is the cutest pony. Squeee. Her design just makes her look so adorable in pony form. Hasbro, I demand a Sunset Shimmer pony plushie now.

Sunset Shimmer wasn't really needed in this film although she did fit. Pony Twilight Sparkle would have also worked with just a little change in writing.

I did enjoy each villain going through the list of evil plot that they tried. Also points for the show acknowledging how forgiving the Mane 5 are.

And again, pony Sunset it so adorable.

Pilum
2017-07-08, 05:55 PM
I think I definitely enjoyed #3 more watching it again, though it's probably more that I wasn't actually half-distracted this time though!

I'm still not convinced by Pony Sunset's mane though.

It remains the weakest for me, though. Not that it's bad, just felt a bit by-the-numbers. If I had to rank them, it would actually be in the air order.

Just to go out-of-pony for a second, I've got baseball on in the background at the mo. Not as a fan as such but it has a nice gentle rhythm for a late night (rather like cricket, actually). One surprising thing is that occasionally I see an in-fielder fail to stop a ground ball because he dives for it with his glove, and it's his 'front hand', if you get me, so it skips under and through (if not: basically diving to the right, and if they'd flopped like a soccer or ice hockey goalkeeper or, well, a cricket fielder and used the bare right hand as being the closest to the floor, they'd have probably made the stop). Is there a rule about having to use the glove, or is it just that the training to use it just becomes that ingrained?

Pendulous
2017-07-08, 08:34 PM
Well, the glove is bigger, giving them a better chance of catching something moving so fast.

Plus it freaking hurts to barehand a baseball moving that fast.

Aotrs Commander
2017-07-08, 09:04 PM
Must remember to watch those EqG episodes, I keep forgetting about them. Maybe tomorrow...



Now five years into Vicky 2 as France. Doing okay, I think, France is still the number two great power, and the gap is closing on Britain. I did at one point try to attack Prussia, but all of my several allies refused to fight and all of the Prussians did. After it became very clear that was a wates of time, I gave up, and am concentrating on taking land in the far east and generally working ASAP towards colonisation.

No idea how the stockpile system works. I set it to a value and turn the automatic off, and then it appears to randomly set it to frack knows what stupidly high value, even if I turn te automatic system back on. So I reloaded and gave up on that idea...

Still not sure if was resources you hve in provinces makes any difference to your factories or not, or whether it's just how much you're producing. (I.e., if I build a cement factory on coal, does it have any greater effect than if I bild in the state next door or what?)

Say this much for Vicky 2, is it not a game you can casually play...

DigoDragon
2017-07-08, 09:42 PM
Plus it freaking hurts to barehand a baseball moving that fast.

Yes, yes it does.


I too found Sunset too adorable for words. Too. The way she stands up like a human and forgets her horn. I did giggle richly.

Deadly
2017-07-09, 02:02 AM
Derpy could use some pats on the head and a muffin

http://orig13.deviantart.net/9af2/f/2017/189/1/3/ditzy_by_brutalweather-dbfj629.gif (http://brutalweather.deviantart.com/art/This-is-to-You-691216497)

Pilum
2017-07-09, 04:51 PM
Thanks for the info guys. Funny though, I'd have thought at the top level it would be "you'll take a stinging palm and like it!" but there we are.

Cute EQG TS/SS image that I just can't remember how to embed on the phone. Either dumb or tired. Probably both. (http://dm29.deviantart.com/art/Nice-to-Meet-You-682016851)

zimmerwald1915
2017-07-09, 05:26 PM
Thanks for the info guys. Funny though, I'd have thought at the top level it would be "you'll take a stinging palm and like it!" but there we are.
At the top level, players are unionized, and the possibility for injury due to sheer ball speed (as opposed to imprecision in throwing or hitting) is higher. Both factors militate in favor of greater protections, not lesser.

Aotrs Commander
2017-07-09, 08:24 PM
FINALLY remembered to watch the EQG specials...

Not too shabby, not too shabby at all. We get to see the Crystal Prep girls again (which is good, because they did have the potential). Rarity learns hopefully the lesson her pony counterpart did, only in a vastly less costly manner.

EQG does Scooby-Doo (but COME ON, really, no "you meddling kids and your dog" line?)



And then the the terrifying meeting of Sunset and Starlight. Now, I can guess some people were miffed about this ('cos they don't like Starlight), but personally, I was enjoying miss Still Evil interacting with Sunset.

Also, Starlight is getting good at this "saving the day without any magic at all" guff, ain't she?

Last episode was definitely the best.



If they made a spin-off, I'd totally watch it...!

Good stuff, good stuff.

DigoDragon
2017-07-09, 08:51 PM
Derpy could use some pats on the head and a muffin

Ouch. No one deserves getting slapped in the face with an improvised Starlight weapon.



FINALLY remembered to watch the EQG specials...
Not too shabby, not too shabby at all. We get to see the Crystal Prep girls again (which is good, because they did have the potential). Rarity learns hopefully the lesson her pony counterpart did, only in a vastly less costly manner.

EQG does Scooby-Doo (but COME ON, really, no "you meddling kids and your dog" line?)



And then the the terrifying meeting of Sunset and Starlight. Now, I can guess some people were miffed about this ('cos they don't like Starlight), but personally, I was enjoying miss Still Evil interacting with Sunset.

Also, Starlight is getting good at this "saving the day without any magic at all" guff, ain't she?

Last episode was definitely the best.



If they made a spin-off, I'd totally watch it...!

Good stuff, good stuff.

I would assume that the "you meddling kids and your dog" line was too much of a low-hanging fruit to use, but I still think it would have been a brilliant shot, no matter the cheapness.
They have the talking dog!

I didn't mind that Starlight was there because she was depowered and couldn't just epic-magic a resolution. But honestly that pales in comparison to "Pony Sunset Forgets How to Pony." Worth it for her scene alone.

otakuryoga
2017-07-10, 09:12 PM
still alive
man, i need to get caught up
where can i find these EQG specials?

also..have you seen this Commodore?
http://ew.com/news/transformers-gi-joe-mask-hasbro-toys-first-look/hasbro-first-look-1/

Pendulous
2017-07-11, 04:51 AM
It's official, the English language has been ponified https://www.equestriadaily.com/2017/07/ponify-added-to-open-source-merriam.html

You hear that Firefox? Stop putting a red line under it! (I know I can change that, it's the principle of the thing)

DigoDragon
2017-07-11, 05:27 AM
It's official, the English language has been ponified https://www.equestriadaily.com/2017/07/ponify-added-to-open-source-merriam.html

Heh, the amusement of a living language.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-DuT6-WRPF5Q/WWQT7INyovI/AAAAAAACffY/DUT8Y4byCYw93RfDtC4gTF96PuzXdsWLgCHMYCw/s650/TheNightmareMoonbytikrs0071499730874980.png

b_jonas
2017-07-11, 07:48 AM
It's time to watch the other new episode, S7 E13.

S7 E13: The Perfect Pear, thoughts as I watch.

So this is the episode about Applejack's parents. I'm scared about headcanons getting ruined.

Applejack and Big Mac quickly trying to hide the pear jam before Granny Smith arrives. Nice opening for an episode. This probably won't be like E12 where nothing happened in the first eight minutes.
“Long-standing feud between the Apples and the Pears” Hehe. Even better. Let's call in Twilight and Fluttershy, certified family feud busters. :-)
YES! They'll go to Goldie Delicious.
Ah yes. Just like the Everfree Forest or Yakyakistan, visiting Goldie Delicious has become much easier than it was in earlier seasons.
Goldie Delicious's entrance was a great callback to S4 E9. I hope she continues that.
Hehe, another cat in her hair. Goldie hides stuff in her hair just like Pinkie does.
“Apple family history volume 137.” Hehe, it's like they're a dynasty of aristocrats or something.
“Feud with the bears. I mean Pears.” Ah yes, it really all started with a misunderstanding over a smudged word, did it?
“Pears are nature's candy. Apples are sour.” I'm on the Apples' side here. Apples have good and variable taste ranging from sweet to sour and juicy from dry; whereas pears suck and taste like you're eating wood soaked with acid.
Hehe, the pear trees are pear shaped.
Now there's not only a pony with a Bubbles cutie mark, but also a Buttercup pony. Add to that that Apple Bloom is sometimes called Apple Blossom in the toys, and you get a whole trio of Powerpuff Ponies. Hmm, in fact if the two parents are Bright Macintosh and Buttercup, maybe they named Big Mac of the father and Apple Blossom from the mother.
(“So we are half pears?”) I mentioned how strange it was that they were surprised on that from the TV guide synopsis. It still strange, although if there's a well-known family feud, it makes a bit more sense. And it sort of sounds to me like the Apples and Pears are more like clans or tribes than families.
And now Goldie Delicious sends the group to the next quest: talk to Burnt Oak. He'll be easy to find, because he'll have a big red exclamation mark glowing above his head.
Burnt Oak has a quite different reaction to the group asking for stories than Goldie Delicious did.
And yes, Burnt Oak sends them to another person too: Mrs Cake.
As Big Mac runs off, we see Twilight in the background for just a moment.
“did you all know that it was your mom who convinced me to pursue baking” Ah, so that's what Apple Bloom inherited from her. Cutie mark advice.
“But isn't your name Mrs. Cake?” “Not always.” YES! YES! YES! The headcanon that most ponies get a new name as they become adults is CONFIRMED. Ponies are actually doing one thing well. I can only hope that this custom will become more well-spread in our world.
She got her cutie mark by making a pear cake, instead of a nice apple pie? Eww.
Granny Smith is angry when he sees Bright Macintosh together with a pear.
“Then Pear Butter told me the sweetest love story I have ever heard.” Ah yes. Mrs Cake wanted to send them to find Buttercup, but they didn't want to do that in the episode, so they broke the pattern. Ok.
Earth ponies use owl post. And with birds smaller than owls too. For people who asked about communications technology, here's your answer. (I still think they have telegraphs though, and possibly even telephones.)
Great montage during the song.
We've already seen at least two thousand-year-old clan feuds resolved on screen in this show: the pony–buffalo war in S1 and the Hooffield–McColt feud in S5. Perhaps the Mane Six can fix this one too. And if they can't, then they'll call in Spike and Thorax and Ember as reinforcements. They're on schedule for E15 and E19 already, so another episode with them in the spotlight can't hurt.
The Pears are moving to Vanhoover. “There's acres of untouched land and a warehouse to make our jams.” Recall the back story of Ponyville in S2 E12. Back when Granny Smith was little, Princess Celestia has promised a holy land to the ancestor Apples, where they would then settle down and found a farm and the quiet little town of Ponyville. In real life, when two feuding live on the same holy land, there's big trouble. In MLP, they always find a solution: the buffalos make peace with the Appleoosa ponies, and the Pears, while they don't quite make peace, they at least move to a better place. I wonder if Princess Celestia has personally intervened in this case too and has given that land to the Pears.
Ah yes, Mayor Mare. She's competent as a mayor of Ponyville: even if she has difficulties herding ponies for the Winter Wrap Up, she at least knows a bit about the history of Ponyville.
Wait, so Mayor Mare was the Friar Laurence who secretly married them?
(Ending.) So… that twisted tree was hidden in the forest, and with a huge orchard of pear trees too, and nobody knew about it until Mayor Mare showed it? I guess magic might be involved.
Let's toast for the peaceful resolution of all thousand-year feuds again.
Custom close credit song.
It certainly wasn't what I expected, but it was a good episode. Thank you, MLP.

DigoDragon
2017-07-11, 08:08 AM
It's time to watch the other new episode, S7 E13.

“But isn't your name Mrs. Cake?” “Not always.” YES! YES! YES! The headcanon that most ponies get a new name as they become adults is CONFIRMED. Ponies are actually doing one thing well. I can only hope that this custom will become more well-spread in our world.


Slow down there. It isn't that most ponies get a new name. It only confirms that it can happen, and probably in specific situations; like when you get disowned by your father. :smalltongue: If it were a commonplace majority, then the apples wouldn't have questioned it with Mrs. Cake. In fact, questioning it after knowing she's married seems to me like it's not a common thing in pony world as in ours for one-half of a married couple to change their last name to match their spouse.

We have Filthy Rich and Spoiled Rich, but we also have Twilight Velvet and Night Light. For royalty examples, there was Prince Blue Dream and Princess Golden Dream, but then we also have Princess Cadance and Shining Armor. Four married examples and only a 50% name change rate.

b_jonas
2017-07-11, 09:04 AM
Reactions to your comments about S7 E13.



Wait, is that young Granny? She changed her hair, I guess Changing hairstyle happens to lots of real people as they age, I swear.

Wait, bug-eyed baby ponies talking? No, just no

Well, she is dangerously, distractingly cute. Yes she is.

Twilight spotted in the background! High-five!

Just mix it all together, bags and bottles and eggshells all, that's how ponies bake Well Pinkie did study under Mrs Cake I think.

"One hundred and thirty one thousand four hundred and fifty six hours". So 131456 hours, that's 5477 days or 15 years. I guess more evidence of ponies aging like humans. Bah, humbug! It's more evidence that they used to age like humans. I still suspect they don't age anymore since around Luna's return, when Princess Celestia could apply her epic uber-magic that makes everyone stop aging.

They knew about the trees? Granny looked like she didn't. This is confusing. I think the sisters didn't know about the trees, but Mayor Mare knew about them, since she was there when they were planted, and she told them. Mayor Mare may also have given them the key to get through the magic spell that has protected that secret.

Gosh darnit, but this episode was sweeter than sugar. Still no definitive word on what happened to their parents. I'm okay with leaving it unsaid, though. I agree.

Deadly, digiman619, and Emmerlaus all say they enjoyed the romantic aspect of the episode a lot. Good.

DigoDragon: thank you for telling us that personal story about your old group of friends (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=22118709&postcount=101). I should think of that advice a bit more.


The only way this episode could have been better is if Goldie, Oak, Cake, and Mayor showed up to see the tree too and they all just reminisce at what was. I suspect Mayor Mare and possibly Mrs Cake too had access to the key and had visited occasionally. Mrs Cake did say “I never knew the right time to bring it up. But I'm so glad you came!”, and I had the impression that she knew all about the wedding too, but thought it would be better if Mayor Mare told it in person.


It could just be he realized his own mortality. My parents separated on unhappy terms, and things went quiet for a while. Then my dad comes back and tries to catch up with all his children. He visits,
he spends time with his granddaughter, he buys her stuff and spoils her. A lot of that was because time is only so long for everyone and he wants to make up for lost years. I'm happy he did. You had two such stories, not just one?


One thing that bothered me. As important as this was, it seemed like all this should have happened much earlier in their lives, shouldn't it? Plus, given how close everyone in Ponyville is, Mayor Mare and Mrs. Cake should at one point have told them something. Nah, I don't think so. That's not how it works. If Granny Smith didn't want to talk about it, I'm not too surprised Mayor Mare and Mrs Cake didn't want to break it to them.


A brilliant comic (http://orig07.deviantart.net/7708/f/2017/175/c/4/the_life_i_never_had_by_edowaado-dbdvcxh.png) that pears well with episode 13, Perfect Pear. Wow. That's sad. And it stays close to the story of the episode nicely.


I have run into one of the problems with conversations online: I know that song by heart, but if I quote, it, there's no way to prove that I didn't look it up. But knowing a song by heart is its own reward. (At least that's my opinion, I've heard one friend disagree.)


Slow down there. It isn't that most ponies get a new name. It only confirms that it can happen, and probably in specific situations; like when you get disowned by your father. :smalltongue: If it were a commonplace majority, then the apples wouldn't have questioned it with Mrs. Cake. Sure, but Apple Bloom is in the Apple family, where everypony gets both an apple-related cutie mark and an apple-related name. They probably don't need to change their name that often. Maybe that and her young age are why she's unfamiliar with that custom and is confused. (Yes, I'm desparately trying to find any excuse to keep my headcanon here, when the show had already contradicted it multiple times.)


In fact, questioning it after knowing she's married seems to me like it's not a common thing in pony world as in ours for one-half of a married couple to change their last name to match their spouse. Oh, you mean she took the name Cup Cake after the marriage because her husband was named Carrot Cake? I guess that could work, yes. (And she took "Cup" from her best friend "Buttercup"… no wait.)



You ever have those times when you just don't know what you want to play? I've got loads things to play (halfway through loads of games); at least one new game untouched... But I'm at that sort of state where nothing seems to jump out, so I end up playing nothing or wasting a couple of hours of indecision, doing nothing. See Abstruse Goose #482 (http://abstrusegoose.com/482)

igordragonian
2017-07-11, 09:25 AM
I would have shipped young Grandpear and Smith. I was almost sure they would be shipped, tsundering at each other so much.


But also I am shipping their elder versions.

Aotrs Commander
2017-07-11, 10:28 AM
I would have shipped young Grandpear and Smith. I was almost sure they would be shipped, tsundering at each other so much.

I was afraid they were going to do something exactly like that.

I was immeasurably relieved they didn't. That would have been far too trite and uncreative. Life isn't neat.




Uuuuurgh. I watched another episode of Thundercats. I feel stupider.

The mutants were kvetching about not having slaves to make decent food. And within two minutes of the episode opening we have Monkian saying "what we need is a woman's touch."

*skullpalm*

Well done, 1980s, well done.

And on top of that I was like, "um wait, we haven't seen any human females anywhere in the show and..." *next scene Monkian is lurking behind a humand female gathering water in a stream*

*skulldesk*

Said woman (actually a youngish girl) is part of a tribe of warrior-women who live in the jungle and whose system is such a competant warrior that she FALLS POUT OF THE TREE when stalking Lion-O. Not the inexperienced younger girl, the older, preported actual warrior. (Just in tie to have to be saved from a monster by Lion-O because of course.)

And these amazon warrior-women have sleep gas arrows, because of COURSE they do.

Somewhere, Diana of Themyscira has a sudden inexplicable urge to punch someone REALLY HARD.

(This leaves aside the fact Cheetara can apparently run faster than environmental temporal effects (that... that is literally not how that works).)

Second episode was not quite as bad; the whole place of traps to circumnavigate meant there were not QUITE as many moments of Stupid. (And at least Wilykit was doing the rescuing (of Wilykat).)

"Best" line of the episode:

*Lion-O Wilykat and Wilykit see the nearly-skeletal (non-animated) corpse of the chap who created the tower full of traps*

Wilykit "Lion-O! He's not alive!"

*skulldesk*

By the time I fight my way through this series, I'mma need a new desk.

At least the voice acting seems to have very slightly improved to be not as paifully stilted as before...

b_jonas
2017-07-11, 11:03 AM
And these amazon warrior-women have sleep gas arrows, because of COURSE they do. Hehe. In some fantasy gaming systems, sleep is one of the legit energy forms. Lots of game elements come in series for many elements. This most often occurs to magical versions of creatures, so you get eg. fire giants, cold giants, and storm giants. But magical weapons dealing elemental damage are a staple, so with bows and arrows you get eg.
fire arrows for setting buildings on fire before molotov cocktails were invented;
poison-tipped arrows, a weapon for assassins;
bows of cold that let you freeze enemies by shooting arrows at them (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0619.html);
shock arrows, sort of like the lightning bolts Zeus throws but smaller;
Magic bolts for hunting ordinary muggle game animals, since those have no Magic resistence whatsoever;
draining arrows that are spiritually linked to you (http://magiccards.info/10e/en/45.html) so you can prey on the life force of creatures from a distance;
and yes, sleep gas arrows (http://magiccards.info/ddi/en/25.html) too.

DigoDragon
2017-07-11, 11:08 AM
*skullpalm*
*skulldesk*
*skulldesk*

I wonder how the new series compares (the 2011 version) to this one. I heard it was overall better, but I saw maybe 2 minutes of a chase scene that was pretty darn goofy and explody, so I'm not sure I got the right impression of the series from that. XD


Reactions to your comments about S7 E13.
You had two such stories, not just one?

Just the one. I'm assuming you are refering to my mother, and the good news is that she remained in contact after the divorce mess, so I still had her in my life.

For better or worse. :smalltongue:

Aotrs Commander
2017-07-11, 01:12 PM
I wonder how the new series compares (the 2011 version) to this one. I heard it was overall better, but I saw maybe 2 minutes of a chase scene that was pretty darn goofy and explody, so I'm not sure I got the right impression of the series from that. XD

I saw only one or two episodes myself, but it was better. Muuuuuch better. Though Snarf was now just a pet and Wilkat/Kit were much younger; Lion-O was actually shown as a late teenager as wasn't annoying every time he opened his mouth and Cheetara was some sort of monk. I was, from what I saw, just better executed all round.

Pendulous
2017-07-12, 04:59 PM
Pony returns August 5th, according to TVGuide. Not a long hiatus if true.

Aotrs Commander
2017-07-12, 05:58 PM
Just in time for me to be away and fall miles behind again, of course...



Also pony according to Pestbag:

Spike's dragon custome attempted to eat him, so he ran away and hid until the costume abruptly died, and then Scootaloo ate the dead costume.
.
Now, let's see sonepony make a proper story out of that...

...

Maybe I should suggest it to Estee...

Rater202
2017-07-12, 06:14 PM
Spike's dragon custome attempted to eat him, so he ran away and hid until the costume abruptly died, and then Scootaloo ate the dead costume.

The question is, did Scootaloo gain any of the costume's powers by eating it?

(If you're serious about wanting to see it as a proper story, I could maybe dust off my fimanfiction account and give it a shot. Just as soon as I finish a chapter of my story where I gave Taylor Hebert a Kaleidostick. It'd take a while and I'd need more details, but whatever.)

DigoDragon
2017-07-12, 06:21 PM
Just in time for me to be away and fall miles behind again, of course...

Dang, you just can't catch a break this season, can you? D:

b_jonas
2017-07-12, 07:01 PM
Pony returns August 5th, according to TVGuide. Not a long hiatus if true. Yay! I guess it will return with the two episodes we've already seen (E12 and E13) though, right?

Update: I re-watched E13
and wow. It's even better the second time. It's such a sweet story.

I wonder how much detail Twilight Sparkle or Pinkie Pie knew about the feud and the Apple's parentage, since they have studied geneology.

Anyway, now I want to see awesome fan-art about the double tree.
http://orig10.deviantart.net/a08b/f/2017/178/3/3/trees_of_memory_by_reflex_pony-dbe8ma1.jpg (http://reflex-pony.deviantart.com/art/Trees-of-memory-689044681)
Nice drawing of the apples sitting in front of the double tree, by Reflex-Pony

http://img07.deviantart.net/f2ce/i/2017/173/0/d/the_fruit_of_our_love_by_northernlights8-dbdjy21.png (http://northernlights8.deviantart.com/art/The-Fruit-of-Our-Love-687893545)
Painting of Bright Mac and Buttercup kissing under the double tree, by NorthernLights8

t209
2017-07-12, 10:57 PM
Yay! I guess it will return with the two episodes we've already seen (E12 and E13) though, right?

Update: I re-watched E13
and wow. It's even better the second time. It's such a sweet story.

I wonder how much detail Twilight Sparkle or Pinkie Pie knew about the feud and the Apple's parentage, since they have studied geneology.

Anyway, now I want to see awesome fan-art about the double tree.
http://orig10.deviantart.net/a08b/f/2017/178/3/3/trees_of_memory_by_reflex_pony-dbe8ma1.jpg (http://reflex-pony.deviantart.com/art/Trees-of-memory-689044681)
Nice drawing of the apples sitting in front of the double tree, by Reflex-Pony

http://img07.deviantart.net/f2ce/i/2017/173/0/d/the_fruit_of_our_love_by_northernlights8-dbdjy21.png (http://northernlights8.deviantart.com/art/The-Fruit-of-Our-Love-687893545)
Painting of Bright Mac and Buttercup kissing under the double tree, by NorthernLights8




Yeah never noticed that, even as someone who don't like Pears.
Also
http://assets.simplyrecipes.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/pear-butter-horiz-a-1800.jpg

DigoDragon
2017-07-14, 08:53 AM
She who controls the coffee, controls the world.
http://img06.deviantart.net/e4e0/i/2017/195/1/9/_commission__teasing_with_coffee_by_gamefreakdx-dbg9m7z.png (http://gamefreakdx.deviantart.com/art/Commission-Teasing-with-Coffee-692450495)


Apparently Crispy Creme is having some sort of donut promotional today, because the line of cars for donuts was backed up to the highway and I have not seen a line that long since Disney during the winter holiday.

Aotrs Commander
2017-07-14, 07:11 PM
Dang, you just can't catch a break this season, can you? D:

Or at all, round this end, apparently. Dad discovered the caravan fridge has gone again yersterday. At least it was the caravan fridge, not the main one - but it broke just before we last went away last month, before he and Mum are away for the weekend this week.

Heck, even my Shapeways order that came today had a one busted model in it I'm having to get re-printed...



Still, last year was worse. Better equipment failures of all stripes than someone having a stroke again, I am right?

Rater202
2017-07-14, 07:52 PM
Still, last year was worse. Better equipment failures of all stripes than someone having a stroke again, I am right?

Correct. Things can be replaced, even if it's difficult, but the same cannot currently be said for brain functions or the lives of loved ones.

https://derpicdn.net/img/2017/1/12/1337776/large.png

DigoDragon
2017-07-15, 09:57 AM
Still, last year was worse. Better equipment failures of all stripes than someone having a stroke again, I am right?

That I certainly agree with. Unless the words 'Of Genius' or 'Of Good Luck' follow immediately after, strokes are not fun things to witness.


Episode 10 (Royal Problem) cute art I saw~
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-QahMyuJxfE0/WWlXjuddiZI/AAAAAAAB3zI/cRltiR3phsw-d2muBaLT-XYyJKdH9uYtQCLcBGAs/s640/do_you_want_to_break_the_day_up__by_dreatos-dbgbx5m.png

Aotrs Commander
2017-07-16, 06:01 PM
We're continuing to have a good run - Dad tells me the caravan loo has pakced up again. so that's another thing they have to fix...



Still picking away at Vicky 2 (in between a bit of CK2 and me having a stab at the point and click Desponia games as well). I'm slowly chipping away at the European nations around me and I think i'm finally starting to clsoe the ridiculous industry gap between me and Britain (though - at last - I've solidly cemented myself in the lead of Great power.) Only six more years to go before the big rush for Africa (1870)...

DigoDragon
2017-07-17, 01:53 PM
Pegasi are unrealistic (http://www.gocomics.com/phoebe-and-her-unicorn/2017/07/15).

Meanwhile, short-mane Flutters~
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YjNKS2JvmNg/WWwKGyCipWI/AAAAAAAB32g/-nZtj4seDq0yPePx-XJoty4fnAAGaFmVACLcBGAs/s640/caught_up_in_the_tide_of_a_distant_memory_by_mirro redsea-dbgkd4h.jpg

Rater202
2017-07-17, 02:01 PM
Meanwhile, short-mane Flutters~

Under normal circumstances, this would have stopped my heart.

But I'm still just so giddy from the latest Kingdom Hearts III Trailer.

Deadly
2017-07-17, 02:13 PM
Pegasi are unrealistic (http://www.gocomics.com/phoebe-and-her-unicorn/2017/07/15).

She's not wrong, you know. As much as I love pegasi