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Sheogoroth
2017-06-22, 11:30 PM
Pathfinder has the True Crystalline (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/equipment/special-materials/#TOC-Crystalline)special material which Completely ignores armor bonuses.

The drawback is that the weapon costs 200x normal and shatters on a 1!

The obvious thing to do is just use arrows, but I'm looking for means of mitigating this massive drawback for weapons. I seem to remember a feat or class feature that lets you ignore a 1 and treat it as a 2.

Thanks!

ATHATH
2017-06-23, 12:25 AM
If 3.5 material is allowed, one of the parts of the 1d2 Crusader's "engine" should work.

Telonius
2017-06-23, 08:24 AM
This thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?260600-Ways-to-get-the-quot-on-a-natural-1-reroll-quot-ability) has some ideas. More along the lines of rerolling 1s, not ignoring them. Still, changing a 1/20 chance to a 1/400 chance is a big improvement.

TheFurith
2017-06-23, 12:13 PM
I remember reading something somewhere about deities being able to taker twenty on attack rolls. Which I'm sure is less than helpful, but becoming a god would fix that problem. A few others as well. Probably.

Elder_Basilisk
2017-06-23, 12:17 PM
Pack a law domain cleric. Choose to take 11 for all your attacks. Good until the domain abilities run out for the day.

Deophaun
2017-06-23, 12:19 PM
Have a backup weapon and someone capable of casting make whole.

Fouredged Sword
2017-06-23, 01:25 PM
Buy something cheap and cast greater magic weapon on it and call it a day. A greatax is what, 200x20, so 4000gp? Expensive, but consider the much more reasonable glaive, where you are only shelling out 1600gp. Yes, it can break. Don't even bother with masterwork.

Funny enough, you can make a true crystal wooden stake. It is free. Carry 20 of them.

BearonVonMu
2017-06-23, 02:08 PM
Pathfinder has a +1 weapon enchantment that makes your attack rolls with 2d10 instead of 1d20. It is difficult to roll a 1 on 2d10.
It is called lesser probability.
Greater probability is a +2 weapon enchantment that makes your attack rolls use 5d4.

Necroticplague
2017-06-23, 02:43 PM
Pathfinder has a +1 weapon enchantment that makes your attack rolls with 2d10 instead of 1d20. It is difficult to roll a 1 on 2d10.
It is called lesser probability.
Greater probability is a +2 weapon enchantment that makes your attack rolls use 5d4.

Can I get a link to or a source on that? That sounds like it would be awesome for a firearm build to avoid dealing with misfire, but I can't seem to find it on the pfsrd.

BearonVonMu
2017-06-23, 03:28 PM
Can I get a link to or a source on that? That sounds like it would be awesome for a firearm build to avoid dealing with misfire, but I can't seem to find it on the pfsrd.


http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/3rd-party-magic-items/3rd-party-magic-weapons/weapon-properties/alluria-publishing/probability-weapon/

And yes, it is absolutely fantastic for firearms, but that wasn't the question this thread asked.
The question you would have to ask yourself is: Is it worth having no misfire chance when you also have almost no chance to get a natural 20 and add all those d4s every shot?

lagninja
2017-06-23, 03:43 PM
Not very helpful unless you are using 3rd party, though.

Deophaun
2017-06-23, 03:44 PM
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/3rd-party-magic-items/3rd-party-magic-weapons/weapon-properties/alluria-publishing/probability-weapon/
OK, so basically someone scraped their lunch money together to get their homebrew published for that. Not actual PF content.

Necroticplague
2017-06-23, 03:53 PM
To be fair, the True Crystalline material is also 3rd party.

Thurbane
2017-06-23, 05:17 PM
Depending how much WBL you have to burn, Phaant's Luckstones (Ghostwalk p.72): slotless, one use items (1000gp each) that give you a re-roll as per the Luck domain.

It's probably not RAI, but I believe by RAW if you are unlucky enough to roll two natural 1s in a row, you could use up a second Luckstone for another re-roll.