Any warlock subclasses that allow me to play a 'magical girl'?

[CrackedChair]

So uh, I thought it'd be interesting to play out a Warlock or some other character that is like a Magical Girl.

Just for reference, here is what the genre 'magical girl' is like: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magical_girl

Thing is, not any subclass of warlock seems too appropriate. Fey seems usable, but it might be a bit too deception oriented. I heard there is a subclass in another book that is more thematically appropriate for a Magical Girl, though. Is there?

[Kryx]

Magical girls is a subgenre of Japanese fantasy anime and manga which feature girls who use magic
Sounds like you can make your gender female and then pick a Druid, Cleric, Sorcerer, Warlock, or Wizard and the critera are met.

[Clone]

Pick up the invocation Mask of Many Faces for essentially permanent Disguise Self. Either have the "normal" version the disguise and the "magical girl" version your character's real appearance or vise versa

Edit: You can also choose your boon to be Pact of the blade you summon and can look however you want which could be interesting and fun!

[Millstone85]

Make a pact with me
／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼
and become a GOO/Chain-lock!

[Foxhound438]

mask of many faces is probably the best way to go about it, but if you're allowed homebrew I definitely remember there was a pretty good looking class on the homebrew forum here that was literally exactly what you're looking for.

[CursedRhubarb]

Make a pact with me
／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼
and become a GOO/Chain-lock!

Oh god, not that one. Though have to say it is brilliantly thematic for a warlock if I dare think about it.

[Naanomi]

I'd say you need to be either a chainlock or tomelock... an annoying judgmental animal companion is virtually a requirement

[Easy_Lee]

I agree with the Mask of Many Faces comments. Transformation is key to the Magical Girl. Disguise yourself with a Japanese schoolgirl outfit, then shed that for your true form in combat.

Modern magical girls often conjure large, impractical weapons. The Pact of the Blade will suffice, as no part of it says that your pact weapon must take a practical form. As a bonus, "You can choose the form that this melee weapon takes each time you create it." That means you can summon whatever weapon is thematically appropriate at the time, and you will be proficient with it. Choose Strength as your melee stat.

Magical girls often wield demonic powers. Fiend will work best both for shoring up your defenses with temporary HP (since you won't have high Dexterity and are probably wearing skimpy battle armor) and giving you plenty of explosive spells.

As a warlock, you have a master. Mis-identify the male party member of your choice as your "master." Discomfort ensues.

Magical girls often have implausible acrobatic skills. Take Acrobatics and Otherworldly Leap.

[Shadow_in_the_Mist]

So uh, I thought it'd be interesting to play out a Warlock or some other character that is like a Magical Girl.

Just for reference, here is what the genre 'magical girl' is like: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magical_girl

Thing is, not any subclass of warlock seems too appropriate. Fey seems usable, but it might be a bit too deception oriented. I heard there is a subclass in another book that is more thematically appropriate for a Magical Girl, though. Is there?

If you can't spin Fey in the direction you like, then try the Celestial patron - it's in the June Unearthed Arcana from WoTC's website. It gains light & healing based bonus spells and features, which fits the general portrayal of Magical Girls.

http://dnd.wizards.com/articles/unearthed-arcana/revised-class-options

Also, as everybody has said, the Mask of A Thousand Faces invocation should be your "must have" Invocation.

For Pact Boon, go with either the Chain, so your familiar represents the cute magical critter that instructs you as in so many Magical Girl works, or take the Blade boon for a ceremonial (or practical, if you want to go with more of a Magical Girl Warrior character) enchanted weapon.

[Millstone85]

Here is another possibility:
* Otherworldly Patron: The Undying (from the Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide)
* Pact Boon: Pact of the Tome (with the shillelagh and booming blade cantrips)
* Eldritch Invocation: Book of Ancient Secrets (with the find familiar ritual)

★

While it is supposedly themed around undeath, that patron offers very little in the way of being a necromancer and forces none of it on you.

Instead, you mostly get health:
* advantage on saving throws against any disease
* regain 1d8 + Con HP on a successful death saving throw, once per long rest
* can hold your breath indefinitely and don't require food, water, or sleep
* age only 1 year in 10 and can't be magically aged (magical girl indeed)
* regain 1d8 + warlock level HP as a bonus action, once per short or long rest
* can reattach a severed body part while using the previous line

You also get spare the dying as a bonus cantrip and access to the aura of life and death ward spells, making you something of an eleventh-hour cleric. Plus, the undead must succeed on a Wisdom saving throw before they can attack you.

This could easily be reflavored as a champion of life and hope. It might even fit way better than "my patron is a lich".

★

Then the shillelagh + booming blade combo gives your magical girl her scepter/weapon.

First, shillelagh: As a bonus action and for 1 minute without concentration, you now make attack and damage rolls with Charisma instead of Strength, plus the club or quarterstaff is considered magical and its damage die becomes a d8.

Attacking with booming blade instead of the Attack action gives you all these benefits, but with additional thunder damage on top of it. If you want to avoid the obvious joke with that vibrating staff, go green-flame blade instead.

★

The critter is a must, yes. Only you will be able to communicate with it, but that's okay.

★

You will also get a fourth bonus cantrip, another 1st-level ritual and the ability to copy more rituals into your book, all from any class.

★

It is not a terribly original build, and people find The Undying to be weak, but I think it is thematic.

[strangebloke]

glamour school bard for the idol value.

[Naanomi]

Play an Aasimar and your 1-minute racial abilities are your 'transformation'

[Gastronomie]

Make a pact with me
／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼
and become a GOO/Chain-lock!Sure he's a Great Old One, but he's also arguably a Fiend.

[Millstone85]

Play an Aasimar and your 1-minute racial abilities are your 'transformation'Aasimar these days also come with a built-in patron, an angelic guide who inspires them in dreams. This could be the Celestial from UA or, with just a little reflavoring, the Undying from SCAG.

Between this, the magic blood and the holiness, aasimar make appropriate warlocks, sorcerers and paladins. lo and behold, they are a +2 Cha race!

The Healing Hands racial feature would also go well with the aforementioned patrons.

There are even "dark magical girl" options: the scourge aasimar and the fallen aasimar. It is like they turned the paladin's Oath of Vengeance and Oathbreaker into playable races.


Oh god, not that one. Though have to say it is brilliantly thematic for a warlock if I dare think about it.
Sure he's a Great Old One, but he's also arguably a Fiend.He only gets worse once you stat him as an imp or quasit and imaginehttp://i.imgur.com/vB3qUq0.png I am still looking for an illustration of the flying mode.

[Sariel Vailo]

Actually got ua covered on this one bruh postin link in here.
http://mfov.magehandpress.com/2017/02/the-mystical-talisman.html?m=1
http://mfov.magehandpress.com/2017/04/the-toon.html?m=1 for the bendy fans out their

[Gastronomie]

He only gets worse once you stat him as an imp or quasit and imaginehttp://i.imgur.com/vB3qUq0.png I am still looking for an illustration of the flying mode.

That is one quite disturbing image. The most disturbing part being that it pretty matches with what Qyubey actually is.

[Nifft]

He only gets worse once you stat him as an imp or quasit and imaginehttp://i.imgur.com/vB3qUq0.png I am still looking for an illustration of the flying mode.

What an unusual looking Flumph.


http://i.imgur.com/RZmNXse.png

[CrackedChair]

I was thinking more along the lines of Sailor Moon, to be honest.

[Sariel Vailo]

I was thinking more along the lines of Sailor Moon, to be honest.

Did you even look at what i suggested.

[Nifft]

I was thinking more along the lines of Sailor Moon, to be honest.

These days apparently magical girls can just beat stuff up with their brutal little girl fists, and overcome adversity with their terrifying little girl determination:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMsJeA6bJyQ

[pwykersotz]

I agree with the Mask of Many Faces comments. Transformation is key to the Magical Girl. Disguise yourself with a Japanese schoolgirl outfit, then shed that for your true form in combat.

Modern magical girls often conjure large, impractical weapons. The Pact of the Blade will suffice, as no part of it says that your pact weapon must take a practical form. As a bonus, "You can choose the form that this melee weapon takes each time you create it." That means you can summon whatever weapon is thematically appropriate at the time, and you will be proficient with it. Choose Strength as your melee stat.

Magical girls often wield demonic powers. Fiend will work best both for shoring up your defenses with temporary HP (since you won't have high Dexterity and are probably wearing skimpy battle armor) and giving you plenty of explosive spells.

As a warlock, you have a master. Mis-identify the male party member of your choice as your "master." Discomfort ensues.

Magical girls often have implausible acrobatic skills. Take Acrobatics and Otherworldly Leap.

This is amazing and a little disturbing. It has my vote.

[Ralanr]

Guys...Fey lord is perfect for magical girl.

[Easy_Lee]

These days apparently magical girls can just beat stuff up with their brutal little girl fists, and overcome adversity with their terrifying little girl determination:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMsJeA6bJyQ

Right. Modern magical girls are a far-cry from Sailor Moon. Most of them don't even transform. In my opinion, the ones we have now are the worst kind of immature wish fulfillment.

But you can have a lot of fun with that. In D&D, males and females are equally strong, and the game makes no assumptions about appearance. There's no reason why your 16-year old elfin princess can't have 20 strength. And like I said, with Pact of the Blade, there's no reason why you can't conjure an implausible weapon of giant-smacking proportions, then wield it proficiently as a regular weapon that does regular damage.

[The Cats]

I have nothing to contribute. I'm just so so so happy this thread exists.

[Coidzor]

As I recall, there's a blog post floating around out there that I saw circulated here and on reddit.

It was basically just an argument illustrating how you can use Warlock and different character options to make several different varieties of magical girl.

[Vaz]

Did you even look at what i suggested.
Dude... Learn social skills.

[McNinja]

As long as you're a female and playing a magic class, that fits the bill. As someone else said, you need an annoying animal companion, but from what I remember they need to have absurd and/or incredibly stupid morals and opinions. A talking raccoon who is a vehement flat-earther, for instance.

[Trum4n1208]

I have nothing to contribute. I'm just so so so happy this thread exists.

you and me both man. The only reason why I don't want to do this is I'm afraid I won't be able to live up to the potential hilarity.

[Millstone85]

I was thinking more along the lines of Sailor Moon, to be honest.I don't remember Sailor Moon very well, but I think she was the original model for much of what has been discussed here. She had a secret identity and a power form, much like a superheroine (which she was). She had a scepter (Did she hit monsters with it?). She had a talking cat (thankfully not like the one I have been joking about). She was, in a way, sent from the heavens to protect Earth. What else are you looking for?


What an unusual looking Flumph.


http://i.imgur.com/RZmNXse.png
The cake is a mimic!

[rbstr]

I disagree that you can be any caster class. The prototypical plot nearly always involves some kind of power-granting entity that allows the girl to go magical.

If I was doing this I'd go toward Nanoha-style or Pretty Cure, not the dark-n-grity recent style. IMO "Magical Girls" are pretty much upstanding, earnest types, I think that's more fun, honestly. You need some blasting spells. Lots of EB spam. Take none of the deceptive stuff unless it's for secret identity things. Could take the mage armor invocation. Blastlock with Chain Pact for a snarky pet/ally.
Celestial is a really good pick for this: some healing, Burning Hands, Flame Strike. But you could use fiend with a bit of fluff.

You could also go with Blade, melee magical girls aren't unheard of.

The idea is you have to win with the power of friendship. If that means you beat them up until they agree to be friends that's fine. Just Win. With. Friendship.

[Ninja_Prawn]

I have nothing to contribute. I'm just so so so happy this thread exists.

Perhaps this (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?444516-Base-Class-Magical-Girl-(AKA-quot-Help-me-I-ve-done-something-terrible!-quot-)) might also bring a smile to your face? ^_^

[rbstr]

Perhaps this (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?444516-Base-Class-Magical-Girl-(AKA-quot-Help-me-I-ve-done-something-terrible!-quot-)) might also bring a smile to your face? ^_^

I like that a lot.
You could even give it some more generic fluff as an arcane half-caster.

[The Cats]

Perhaps this (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?444516-Base-Class-Magical-Girl-(AKA-quot-Help-me-I-ve-done-something-terrible!-quot-)) might also bring a smile to your face? ^_^

THEY HAVE AN ABILITY CALLED POWER OF FRIENDSHIP! Oh man. I'm gonna re-read Card Captor Sakura and start working on the thesis it'll take to convince my group to play a magical girl campaign right now.

[Ninja_Prawn]

a magical girl campaign

You know, we actually tried that (IC (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?454903-5e-You-give-a-little-love-IC)/OOC (https://web.archive.org/web/20161106131253/http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?454902-You-give-a-little-love-OOC)), but unfortunately the DM didn't stick around very long.

It's certainly doable though.

[Unoriginal]

These days apparently magical girls can just beat stuff up with their brutal little girl fists, and overcome adversity with their terrifying little girl determination:


You mean, like Sailor Moon?


Right. Modern magical girls are a far-cry from Sailor Moon.

Not really, no. They're different, which is important, but they're just as much Magical Girls than Sailor Moon


In my opinion, the ones we have now are the worst kind of immature wish fulfillment.

I'm sorry, what?

Because being the reincarnation of a princess with superpowers, a hot boyfriend you're fated to end with and people who follow you just like that is not wish fulfillment, but being a girl with some superpowers is?

The only difference with modern MGs is that the "waifu" parts of otaku culture is acknowledged by the people in the industry and they generally exploit the hell out of it, when in the past it wasn't as clearly the case.

[The Cats]

You know, we actually tried that (IC (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?454903-5e-You-give-a-little-love-IC)/OOC (https://web.archive.org/web/20161106131253/http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?454902-You-give-a-little-love-OOC)), but unfortunately the DM didn't stick around very long.

It's certainly doable though.

:o oh man I would love to start one on the forums too! But I'm already only posting every other day int he one pbp I am running and I don't want to turn into one of those disappearing DMs V_V

Man I am super excited for the idea tho.

[Nifft]

You mean, like Sailor Moon? Maybe? I never watched Sailor Moon.

I found the magical girl in my linked video when looking for examples of good, fluid animation.



I'm sorry, what? You put my name on someone else's words.

I will say that it's pretty weird for that other poster to complain about wish fulfillment on a forum dedicated to magical elf games of pretend.

[Falcon X]

Seen the trailers for Xenoblade 2?
Have a sentient weapon that projects the image of a waifu beside you. Not exactly what you are asking for, but I figured you might appreciate it.

[Hrugner]

I'd probably go archfey/blade pact just to have the bow summon for the magical girl. Bow girls are the best after all. The seeker could be more thematically appropriate though. http://media.wizards.com/2016/dnd/downloads/UA%20Non-Divine%20Faithful%20SFG.pdf This archetype may be defunct though as I don't recall it getting support in the warlock update. The raven queen would work if ravens were brightly colored, their abilities are more reflective of the magical girl kit. There's also something to be said for a pact of the chain lock with a faerie companion.

[Easy_Lee]

Perhaps this (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?444516-Base-Class-Magical-Girl-(AKA-quot-Help-me-I-ve-done-something-terrible!-quot-)) might also bring a smile to your face? ^_^

If homebrew is allowed, I don't think this can be beat by anything in the PHB. A combination of warlock and paladin with friendship themes...nicely done.

[Steampunkette]

Literally any subclass and pact can make a magical girl, just change the patrons around.

Wanna go full Rei in Sailor Moon Style? Fiend. Done. Problem solved. The various Fires of Mars are covered. Maybe go Tomelock so you can pick up more fire-based magic and pretend your book of shadows is a temple's scroll from the temple Rei guards.

How about Sailor Mercury style water and brilliance? Great Old One works great as you figure things out (By reading minds surreptitiously) or provide intra-party comms (through telepathy). Eldritch Blasts as water-missiles that smack into the target, hard.

Pact of the Fey? Sailor Venus! SUPER Popular and Pretty and even has her own TV show!

Hexblade? Sailor Pluto. BRING ON THE DEATH!

And, of course, you can bend these things around to literally any Magical Girl concept there is. Just slap a Mask of Many Faces on the character so you can do your Moon Makeup Transformation or whatever and go kick ass. Martial Artist Magical Girls should consider Monk levels with Warlock as a splash.

[Rysto]

If your DM is open to refluffing, A Barbarian would work really well for a melee Magical Girl. Refluff Rage as your transformation. Take the third level Wolf totem for a "power of friendship" feel or Bear totem for the "relentless determinator" feel. I'm AFB, so I can't remember what the other Barbarian abilities are, but with some creativity you could definitely make it work.

[Submortimer]

Aww, Ninja_Prawn, we have something for this!

BEHOLD! (http://mfov.magehandpress.com/2017/02/the-mystical-talisman.html)

[Ninja_Prawn]

Aww, Ninja_Prawn, we have something for this!

BEHOLD! (http://mfov.magehandpress.com/2017/02/the-mystical-talisman.html)

Yeah I know. Sariel linked it already. :smalltongue:

[Sariel Vailo]

Yeah I know. Sariel linked it already. :smalltongue:

Aw yeah give the drow some love linked that and the toon its bendy time

[Submortimer]

Aw yeah give the drow some love linked that and the toon its bendy time

My apologies, I missed that.

You all should play that warlock patron Sariel posted.

Not that I wrote it or anything like that.