AnimeTheCat
2017-07-07, 10:55 AM
So I'm reading through Libris Mortis and I came across the Pale Master. Not the greatest class, but not bad and should be fun for a BBEG at some point. The prerequisites though... are odd when looking at the text.
Skills: Knowledge (religion) 8 Ranks. Feat: Skill Focus (Knowledge (religion))
Animate Dead (sp): *snip* For example, a 6th-level sorcerer/3rd-level pale master can animate up to 16 HD of undead with a single use of this ability. Likewise, he can control up to 32 HD of undead created using this ability, the animate dead spell, or both.
So, a few questions here.
1) How in the world can a sorcerer get 8 ranks of knowledge religion by level 6?
2) Is this taken care of in an errata somewhere?
3) Using this ability a Pale Master can control up to 32 HD of Undead, can he also control up to 32 HD of undead using the spell animate dead for a total of 64 HD worth of undead controlled?
Then I got to this ability:
Control Undead (sp): Once per day, a pale master of 5th level or higher can gain control over an undead creature (with Hit Dice equal to or less than his highest arcane caster level) by making a successful touch attack against it. The undead creature receives no saving throw to resist this effect. The control lasts for 1 round per class level.
Is this simply a worse command undead spell like ability that only targets one undead, however it doesn't get a save? Weighing the pros/cons of the two, command undead allows a save but allows you to target 2HD/lvl creatures for minutes per level, this only allows 1 target of 1HD/lvl with no save for rounds per Pale Master Level. You can't target as powerful creatures, it lasts less time, and it's only once per day, but there's no save. Is this really all that good of an ability or did it get errata'd at some point or am I missing something?
Skills: Knowledge (religion) 8 Ranks. Feat: Skill Focus (Knowledge (religion))
Animate Dead (sp): *snip* For example, a 6th-level sorcerer/3rd-level pale master can animate up to 16 HD of undead with a single use of this ability. Likewise, he can control up to 32 HD of undead created using this ability, the animate dead spell, or both.
So, a few questions here.
1) How in the world can a sorcerer get 8 ranks of knowledge religion by level 6?
2) Is this taken care of in an errata somewhere?
3) Using this ability a Pale Master can control up to 32 HD of Undead, can he also control up to 32 HD of undead using the spell animate dead for a total of 64 HD worth of undead controlled?
Then I got to this ability:
Control Undead (sp): Once per day, a pale master of 5th level or higher can gain control over an undead creature (with Hit Dice equal to or less than his highest arcane caster level) by making a successful touch attack against it. The undead creature receives no saving throw to resist this effect. The control lasts for 1 round per class level.
Is this simply a worse command undead spell like ability that only targets one undead, however it doesn't get a save? Weighing the pros/cons of the two, command undead allows a save but allows you to target 2HD/lvl creatures for minutes per level, this only allows 1 target of 1HD/lvl with no save for rounds per Pale Master Level. You can't target as powerful creatures, it lasts less time, and it's only once per day, but there's no save. Is this really all that good of an ability or did it get errata'd at some point or am I missing something?