Showing why each of the strong spells in 3.5 is strong with YouTube

[gooddragon1]

For another bit of fun and slight thought experimentation, posting a youtube clip for each of the strong/broken 3.5 spells polymorph, gate, etc.

I'll start with why Polymorph/Shapechange is powerful:
Video Name: Ben 10,000 RECKS Kevin 11,000! (Brutal) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1c09OWIbspM)

There's no reason why other youtubes can't be posted for the same spell if you feel they are more applicable, or provide a different perspective, etc.

[flappeercraft]

Gate allows you to break the game by getting an Efreet with it, commanding it to use its wish SLA to replicate Simulacrum 3 times and replicate himself. Then order him to order the simulacrums to obey only you, not even the original efreet. Now you have 9 daily wishes for free.

Miracle allows you to replicate basically any spell on any spell list so that's given. If with Magic-Psionic transparency which is default then you also have access to powers.

The Celerity line is basically actions now instead of later and allows you to have 2 rounds worth of actions in one, due to how short lived combat is the extra actions are basically a combat ender.

[Florian]

Gate allows you to break the game by getting an Efreet with it, commanding it to use its wish SLA to replicate Simulacrum 3 times and replicate himself. Then order him to order the simulacrums to obey only you, not even the original efreet. Now you have 9 daily wishes for free.

Miracle allows you to replicate basically any spell on any spell list so that's given. If with Magic-Psionic transparency which is default then you also have access to powers.

The Celerity line is basically actions now instead of later and allows you to have 2 rounds worth of actions in one, due to how short lived combat is the extra actions are basically a combat ender.

That can be summed-up better.

Most spells considered to be powerful (or broken) are not self-contained discreet rules elements but need one or more additional sources that are not part of the PHB/CRB.

What Gate, Polymorph, Simulacrum and Ice Assassin have in common is the need to reference the MM/Bestiary to even work and critters don´t follow the same rules the govern regular characters.

[Crake]

Glitterdust (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTAXUYLbFYk)

[gooddragon1]

Gate allows you to break the game by getting an Efreet with it, commanding it to use its wish SLA to replicate Simulacrum 3 times and replicate himself. Then order him to order the simulacrums to obey only you, not even the original efreet. Now you have 9 daily wishes for free.

Miracle allows you to replicate basically any spell on any spell list so that's given. If with Magic-Psionic transparency which is default then you also have access to powers.

The Celerity line is basically actions now instead of later and allows you to have 2 rounds worth of actions in one, due to how short lived combat is the extra actions are basically a combat ender.


That can be summed-up better.

Most spells considered to be powerful (or broken) are not self-contained discreet rules elements but need one or more additional sources that are not part of the PHB/CRB.

What Gate, Polymorph, Simulacrum and Ice Assassin have in common is the need to reference the MM/Bestiary to even work and critters don´t follow the same rules the govern regular characters.

No no, we need video evidence, like this:

Glitterdust (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTAXUYLbFYk)

Excellent.

Save or lose my friend save or LOSE.

[Melcar]

Gate is limited by your CL... Advance caster level enough and your calling on creatures from the Immortals Handbook!

Wish can create any magic item! No price limit! So get a +100 sword... no problem!

[Coretron03]

Angel summoner and BMX bandit anyone? (For gate)

[Prime32]

Contingency (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_qx2iY07Lg)
Major Image (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0oPj6AVCHA&t=19m12s)
Time Stop (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9za3TrVT3g)

[Braininthejar2]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFB9vMQLQcw (yes, I know he survived)

[Braininthejar2]

Verdigris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGxEqDuggRM
Gate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEUU2u0v_gg
Destruction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8nLVXMfNXA

[SirNibbles]

Grease (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRLQJMCOCx8)

Plane Shift/Gate (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJnMT073tVE)

[Vaz]

For another bit of fun and slight thought experimentation, posting a youtube clip for each of the strong/broken 3.5 spells polymorph, gate, etc.

I'll start with why Polymorph/Shapechange is powerful:
Video Name: Ben 10,000 RECKS Kevin 11,000! (Brutal) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1c09OWIbspM)

There's no reason why other youtubes can't be posted for the same spell if you feel they are more applicable, or provide a different perspective, etc.

Really? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h90ZrKj08Fc) You forgot the best one.

[danielxcutter]

Are epic spells allowed too? Don't have anything right now, but I'll think of something...

[AvatarVecna]

Time Stop (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iO2SirSH7Rg)
Disguise Self (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngk3Urrpa8k)

[gooddragon1]

Are epic spells allowed too? Don't have anything right now, but I'll think of something...

I suppose. Epic is usually pretty busted though.


Really? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h90ZrKj08Fc) You forgot the best one.

Yeah, that's a pretty good demonstration.

[danielxcutter]

What about psionic powers or that kind of stuff?

[Braininthejar2]

Alter self (GoT season 7 spoilers)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mo9ZGtOM5Yw

[danielxcutter]

This one looks like a good example of Wraithstrike (https://youtu.be/cefYcPVWLOU?t=12s).

[Sagetim]

Contingency (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_qx2iY07Lg)
Major Image (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0oPj6AVCHA&t=19m12s)
Time Stop (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9za3TrVT3g)

When you finally get to use your Riven Hourglass (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soyMVOxsy1Q) Discipline to it's utmost.

Oh wait, this thread said 3.5....and spells...oh well, maneuvers are pretty sweet too.

[Braininthejar2]

What about psionic powers or that kind of stuff?

Psionic dominate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9HEnB-VeuM

[weckar]

Disguise Self (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngk3Urrpa8k)Available in an 1800GP item for fun and profit.

[The Glyphstone]

For another bit of fun and slight thought experimentation, posting a youtube clip for each of the strong/broken 3.5 spells polymorph, gate, etc.

I'll start with why Polymorph/Shapechange is powerful:
Video Name: Ben 10,000 RECKS Kevin 11,000! (Brutal) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1c09OWIbspM)

There's no reason why other youtubes can't be posted for the same spell if you feel they are more applicable, or provide a different perspective, etc.

The biggest thing I took from that clip is that heroes, like villains, can also be dumb enough to stop mid-fight and brag about their plan/secret weakness to the enemy. Monologuing Is Not A Free Action.

[bekeleven]

Grease (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRLQJMCOCx8)

Grease again (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjLdEjOL1s8)

[Braininthejar2]

Awaken: Mass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtmD6ZyAvUs