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xkroku
2017-07-19, 10:06 AM
Hello Playgrounders
I'm trying to do a Polymorph-style spells specialist build and I have a few questions:
•I want to polymorph into Outsiders, to do so I have to be a outsider. But then I cannot choose outsiders as Master Transmogrifist favored form. Is there a way around that?
•As I'll probably be taking Arcane Thesis for Polymorph, are there any good metamagic feats for Polymorph?
•What are the best feats/classes/whatever to boost my polymorph forms?

(The build is 3.5 gestalt (but both sides can multicass whatever they like) with PF feat progression, 2 flaws and a bonus regional or racial feat @1.)
(Edit1: The feat Assume Supernatural Ability is slightly modified not to have the downsides)

Menzath
2017-07-19, 12:31 PM
Hello Playgrounders
I'm trying to do a Polymorph-style spells specialist build and I have a few questions:
•I want to polymorph into Outsiders, to do so I have to be a outsider. But then I cannot choose outsiders as Master Transmogrifist favored form. Is there a way around that? you can be an outsider by chosing the neraph race, or a lesser gensei, alternatively using the otherworldly feat as well.
Sadly I can't think of any way to be not an outsider, except maybe at level 1 taking the half elf paragon class, the class feature to be considered an elf from that, otherworldly feat, and that feat human heritage from races of destiny. Now it might not work cause of how the text reads, check with your DM on that.




•As I'll probably be taking Arcane Thesis for Polymorph, are there any good metamagic feats for Polymorph?
•What are the best feats/classes/whatever to boost my polymorph forms?

(The build is 3.5 gestalt (but both sides can multicass whatever they like) with PF feat progression, 2 flaws and a bonus regional or racial feat @1.)
(Edit1: The feat Assume Supernatural Ability is slightly modified not to have the downsides)
For metamagic, extend can sorta help depending on the spell, and quicken till you get a class feature to replace that. Most metamagic just aren't that great for polymorphing I think.

But metamagic for extending and persisting other buffs.
If you are going for full caster while being beat stick+ abjurant champion, spell guard of silverymoon, and even argent savant(for the nice ac buff) make good prestige choices.

Endarire
2017-07-20, 09:26 PM
It's very likely that shapechange is better than Master Transmographer since MT loses caster levels. If that's a nonissue (gestalt), it may be worthwhile.

The EVEN MORE Complete 3.5 Polymorph Thread (http://minmaxforum.com/index.php?topic=519.0) explains a lot more.

Also consider metamorphosis/psionics and Metamorphic Transfer (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/psionicFeats.htm#metamorphicTransfer).