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Deth Muncher
2007-08-08, 07:41 PM
Hullo all. Just wondering if such a prestige class exists. I mean, I have a sorceror who primarily goes around catching things on fire, and I was kinda hoping there would be a class like "Pyromancer" or "Flame Adept" or something to that effect.

kpenguin
2007-08-08, 07:41 PM
Well. there's always the Elemental Savant.

Arbitrarity
2007-08-08, 07:42 PM
Well, with psionics, there's the Pyrokineticist (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/prestigeClasses/pyrokineticist.htm)

Dunno about any others off the top of my head.

Deth Muncher
2007-08-08, 07:43 PM
Well. there's always the Elemental Savant.

Right, I should know that! I just bought Complete Mage the other day....

Wait, that is the class from CM, right?

Deth Muncher
2007-08-08, 07:45 PM
Well, the Pyrokineticist sounds good and all, but I'm fairly sure we can't use Psionics in the campaign I'm in at the moment...

kpenguin
2007-08-08, 07:46 PM
Right, I should know that! I just bought Complete Mage the other day....

Wait, that is the class from CM, right?

Complete Arcane, actually.

Deth Muncher
2007-08-08, 07:48 PM
Hm...I must be thinking of something else then...

PaladinFreak
2007-08-08, 07:56 PM
Elemental Savant (Complete Arcane) is a arcane PrC that allows you to be more effective with your chosen element, and eventually you become immune to your element of choice, and you gain all the special abilities and movement rates of a medium elemental of that type. Your type also changes to elemental, and you gain all the penalties and bonuses thereof.

Pyrokineticist (Expanded Psionics Handbook) is a Psionic PrC that allows you to gain supernatural fire related abilities.

Deth Muncher
2007-08-08, 08:00 PM
Hm. They both sound good, I'll have to take a look into them. Thanks guys!

kpenguin
2007-08-08, 08:02 PM
Elemental Savant also has the downside of loosing two caste levels and, of course, being a blaster PrC.

Deth Muncher
2007-08-08, 08:04 PM
Elemental Savant also has the downside of loosing two caste levels and, of course, being a blaster PrC.



Ouch, you lose two levels? Harsh. And, as far as my understanding of "blaster", I pretty much do that anyway, for the most part. My understanding of it is: One who shoots lots of large, AOE spells.

UglyPanda
2007-08-08, 08:22 PM
Warlocks can light things on fire starting at level 6, and they can light things on fire until their fingers hurt. I wouldn't recommend it, but Hellfire warlocks (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20061207a&page=3) if you're into fire as a symbol of hell.

Aximili
2007-08-08, 08:40 PM
There's a guy in Book of Vile Darkness that deals with fire, but it's nothing to do with casters, so I don't think you'll want it.

MeklorIlavator
2007-08-08, 08:44 PM
Elemental Savant (Complete Arcane) is a arcane PrC that allows you to be more effective with your chosen element, and eventually you become immune to your element of choice, and you gain all the special abilities and movement rates of a medium elemental of that type. Your type also changes to elemental, and you gain all the penalties and bonuses thereof.

I'm pretty underwhelmed by the class. I just don't think it makes you better in your element, as you both lose spellcasting and about 1/2 the abilities are about making you an elemental, and the others are(mostly) replaceable by feats(Spell Focus and Penetration). Immunity to your element is nice, and so is becoming and elemental(especially an air), but if you want to be the "bet fire mage evar", straight sorcerer would be better(though some reserve feats would be very good for a complete pyromaniac).

Ranis
2007-08-08, 08:54 PM
I know there's a homebrew PrC that centers around the Fireball spell somewhere around here on these forums...

OzymandiasVolt
2007-08-08, 09:13 PM
Play an Evoker. Use the Focused Specialist variant. Pick up lots of fire and heat spells. If you find a spell that does what you want but doesn't seem fiery, MAKE it fiery somehow and run it past your DM. Icicle Spikes? Nope, now they're spikes of partially-cooled magma (cold damage becomes fire damage). Prestidigitation's cleaning effect is a tiny wave of fire that washes over the area/object. Mage Armor is visible as a faint fiery aura. And so on. Changing fluff is remarkably effective. Of course you'll want to pick up at least one Reserve Feat and get the elemental damage changed to Fire if it isn't already. That'll give you an infinite use fire blast for your pyromaniacal tendencies as well as boosting your other fire spells. Maybe get a homebrewed item that grants a +1 to the CL of spells with the Fire descriptor (it's not that expensive. Just take the Ioun stone that grants +1 to CL, cut the price in half (slotted item), then cut it by 1/3 (only works on Fire spells).) There's also a feat SOMEWHERE that grants a +1 to CL while under moonlight, which could be readily changed to sunlight for the whole fire thing. Oh, and of course you'll want the Searing Spell metamagic feat at some point, because dangit, NOBODY resists your fire blasts short of a fire elemental or red dragon.

Leon
2007-08-08, 09:55 PM
Blistering Spell from PHB2

Person_Man
2007-08-09, 09:19 AM
Elemental Savant also has the downside of loosing two caste levels and, of course, being a blaster PrC.


The Forgotten Realms version (I think its 3.0, not sure) doesn't lose any caster levels.

You can also just play any other PrC, and just take Energy Substitution. Focus on energy spells, and just call yourself a Fire Mage. Crunch doesn't equal fluff.

Deth Muncher
2007-08-09, 11:06 AM
Wow. Just...wow. OzymandiasVolt, thats...wow. I'm going to have to do that. Soon.:biggrin:

Everyman
2007-08-09, 11:17 AM
Don't forget Energy Substitution (Complete Arcane). If you can't get your DM to houserule some fire-based versions of spells, you can make'em that way with this metamagic feat. Not the most optimized feat in the world, but fun if you really, really like fire.

In addition, this is a spell in PHB II that can give a creature vulnerability to an energy type if they fail a Will save. Can't remember the name right now, though.

Deth Muncher
2007-08-09, 11:29 AM
Hm, yes, energy substitution. I could change my Sucktacular "Ray of Frost" into an underpowered version of "Scorching Ray"!