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Kaptin Keen
2017-08-06, 09:12 AM
I believe I'm going to turn one of my games here on the forums into an actual module. This is something that's basically just ... work. However, if I'm to make a PDF of the module, I feel there needs to be original art to go along with it - and that's way outside my capabilities. So I wonder: Would anyone here possess these two unusual qualities:

- The ability to draw (on a level corresponding to my writing)
- The desire to join this project (mostly for fun)

I'm toying with the idea of putting this on Kickstarter and see if I can dupe some rubes into actually funding this idea. Obviously, it's highly unlikely to draw a ton of attention. But if, unexpectedly, it does, the artist would get his due of the loot. I still maintain that fun is the major motivation.

Gallade
2017-08-06, 10:42 AM
Can I!
https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/20631596_1556901411015628_1177504946_n.png?oh=e24e c23f8e996c48cff8595427e80d44&oe=598A30D2
https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/20644024_1556252001080569_638863801_n.png?oh=20b27 07b1d30b2d181c5d06fa0ea6e56&oe=598947DC
...apparently not too well.

Kaptin Keen
2017-08-06, 11:15 AM
Can I!
https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/20631596_1556901411015628_1177504946_n.png?oh=e24e c23f8e996c48cff8595427e80d44&oe=598A30D2
https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/20644024_1556252001080569_638863801_n.png?oh=20b27 07b1d30b2d181c5d06fa0ea6e56&oe=598947DC
...apparently not too well.

It's heaps better than anything I could do =)

Jormengand
2017-08-06, 11:22 AM
Would anyone here possess these two unusual qualities:

- The ability to draw (on a level corresponding to my writing)
- The desire to join this project (mostly for fun)

The problem is, of course, that most artists want to draw what they want, not what you think would be cool. I've tried getting willing artists but it's nearly impossible unless they're actually your friend or have a reason to want to work with you (assuming that you're doing this without paying them).

I would consider asking around the people who you actually know as friends before trying to rope people online into doing it.

Faily
2017-08-06, 11:31 AM
Yeah, unless you're paying the artists (because this **** takes time), you're not going to have the best of luck.

Gallade
2017-08-06, 11:38 AM
Oh well, I mostly draw for the pleasure of putting an idea on paper, not necessarily mine. Though I can probably afford it because my job is not very time consuming, most people I know would demand compensation for dedicating a part of their free time to drawing on commission.

Kaptin Keen
2017-08-06, 11:46 AM
Yeah, unless you're paying the artists (because this **** takes time), you're not going to have the best of luck.

I think it's stated clearly enough in my opening post that payment is not to be expected. This is a project I'm pursuing for fun - because I think it would be fun to put an idea into a 'product' of sorts.

If someone feels it would be fun to add art to that 'product', then that's what I'm looking for

If someone is looking for paid work, they should be looking at job postings, not forum posts. I have zero monies. But you know, a succesful kickstarter is marginally within the realm of possibility.

Gallade
2017-08-06, 12:49 PM
Well, just give me an example of a concept. As I said I do it mostly for pleasure, so I can put in that extra work to make it look better (those drawings I do are mostly to give players a "look" at the game characters)
https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/20526692_1554012277971208_1577894830_n.png?oh=74dc 766a4cf1a15646c20998376a5472&oe=598A259B

Kaptin Keen
2017-08-06, 12:56 PM
I'll give you a link (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?391462-The-Necromancer-IC) to the game. Called The Necromancer, it turned out - unexpectedly - to be a very nice story. It's pretty dark, I would say, featuring the ghosts of fallen enemies as a primary feature.

Gallade
2017-08-06, 01:10 PM
Ah, it's a play by post game. Not my forte, but I can whip up something with a good enough description.

What are you looking to have drawn? Just characters, or also scenes like fights, exploration and important actions?

Kaptin Keen
2017-08-06, 01:47 PM
The first scene in the game takes place in a cave - way back there is an obelisk in the middle of a small pool of water. Here, Ardvil Clavourne (a Grey Guard, sort of lawful neutral paladin guy - if he had a famous quote, it would be 'justice is fluid and fleeting - but laws are immutable and divine') confronts the player character(s), who are on the run from the law.

Can you sketch something based on that?

I confess this is alien territory for me, I only ever write stuff =)

Ardvil becomes the first ghost to tag along with The Necromancer. He's .. pretty screwed.

FreddyNoNose
2017-08-06, 01:56 PM
I don't have the artists gene. Can't even draw a circle with a straight edge.

Kaptin Keen
2017-08-06, 01:57 PM
I don't have the artists gene. Can't even draw a circle with a straight edge.

You and me both. I'm actually hilariously bad at drawing - seeming to reach the point where you have to actually work to get as talentless as I am =)

Gallade
2017-08-06, 02:00 PM
Okay, I'll read up the first post and see what I can do. Can I post it here or do you want it via MP?

sengmeng
2017-08-06, 02:17 PM
<---- I drew my avatar :D

Kaptin Keen
2017-08-06, 02:56 PM
Okay, I'll read up the first post and see what I can do. Can I post it here or do you want it via MP?

It's hardly a secret, so either way works =)


<---- I drew my avatar :D

And an awesome avatar it is =)

What is that, a Shadowrun dwarf? A 40k squat? Or a giantslayer/necromunda ganger cross over?

sengmeng
2017-08-06, 03:36 PM
And an awesome avatar it is =)

What is that, a Shadowrun dwarf? A 40k squat? Or a giantslayer/necromunda ganger cross over?

Thank you! None of the above however. It's Salvador from Borderlands 2, who is a 5'4" steroid abuser who dual-wields, so a dwarf physique seemed appropriate.

Gallade
2017-08-06, 04:55 PM
I did the posing for now, will add details later.
https://image.prntscr.com/image/R7VGZP6nQpqQEH0mGfFMQA.png

Lvl 2 Expert
2017-08-06, 06:22 PM
I can draw one thing semi-competently, and that's dodos. Because drawing is watching*, and I only ever took time to study one thing in enough detail to be able to whip out a decent example whenever asked. So if your adventure is entirely or mostly about dodos (and doesn't need much done on it inside of a month or so) I could help for a percentage of anything the module makes on kickstarter/DrivethroughRPG/that DM site whose name escapes me right now where people can post their creations for pay what you want. (You are toying with the idea of monetization after all, surely you don't expect someone to make stuff for free so you can sell it?) I do illustrate other things from time to time, like my avatar, but I generally use quite some pictures for reference or even tracing.

*It took me until somewhere halfway my twenties to get this. I always just kind of figured I couldn't draw before that. Something with motor skills, or not being able to translate what I think off into hand motions, or something like that. Turns out it's mostly learning and thinking work. Who'd have thought? Aside from most artists and people who can draw, that is.

goto124
2017-08-06, 07:55 PM
I believe I'm going to turn one of my games here on the forums into an actual module.

If you're going to sell your stuff, yes, you do have to pay for the art.

Also, this may belong on the Arts & Crafts section.

KillianHawkeye
2017-08-06, 08:27 PM
I don't have the artists gene. Can't even draw a circle with a straight edge.

A straight edge is not the appropriate tool for drawing a circle. It's only for drawing straight lines (as the name sort of implies).



As for me, while drawing IS a thing that I've done, I mostly do art using rendered 3D assets and post-work in Photoshop. Here is an example of some art that I recently did for a character I'm going to be playing.
http://i.imgur.com/7vpnIbY.png
Pyrokineticist for upcoming Pathfinder game

goto124
2017-08-07, 12:44 AM
A straight edge is not the appropriate tool for drawing a circle. It's only for drawing straight lines (as the name sort of implies).

I myself was wondering about that. A straight edge to draw a circle?

Gallade
2017-08-07, 01:45 AM
https://image.prntscr.com/image/kUwsNjrLQnC4rcGGabxzGQ.png
And there's the no-nonsense paladin done and ready for colouring. If there are some details you want changed, just say so.

Kaptin Keen
2017-08-07, 04:24 AM
Ok - maybe I'm not being clear enough.

I doubt there will be any money to be made from this.

However, any money made will be shared wit the artist. Obviously.


Here is an example of some art that I recently did for a character I'm going to be playing.
http://i.imgur.com/7vpnIbY.png
Pyrokineticist for upcoming Pathfinder game

That's ... very good!


https://image.prntscr.com/image/kUwsNjrLQnC4rcGGabxzGQ.png
And there's the no-nonsense paladin done and ready for colouring. If there are some details you want changed, just say so.

Cool - thanks, I love it. Excited to see the final version =)

Gallade
2017-08-07, 07:49 AM
https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/20707848_1560002104038892_1042949511_n.png?oh=bb67 7de773d8f16feaa1d4fc39defd9a&oe=598AD7E7

As usual, say the word if there is a wrong detail.

And it's finished.
http://i65.tinypic.com/2ni7lgi.png

Kaptin Keen
2017-08-07, 01:11 PM
That's actually really good =) it very clearly fits what I wanted for the scene.

FreddyNoNose
2017-08-08, 05:28 PM
I myself was wondering about that. A straight edge to draw a circle?

At the point where two people are confused about it means you need to be told it was a joke. Isn't that obvious?

KillianHawkeye
2017-08-08, 09:23 PM
At the point where two people are confused about it means you need to be told it was a joke. Isn't that obvious?

That's about as funny as a screen door on a battleship. :smallcool:

RobD
2017-08-10, 10:47 PM
At the point where two people are confused about it means you need to be told it was a joke. Isn't that obvious?

On the other hand...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5zy4DwgJNo

Chimera245
2017-08-12, 09:23 AM
On this sub-topic of drawing circles, anyone can draw a near-perfect circle by hand as long as they can hold their hand very still, and there's at least a bit of fingernail on their thumb.

1. Hold the pen/pencil between your index and middle finger,
2. Place your thumbnail down on the paper where you want the circle's center to be,
3. Place the pen/pencil point however far out you want the radius to be,
4. Holding your hand still, spin the paper around.

It's like making a compass out of fingers. I impressed some of my classmates back in fifth grade doing this when we were studying circle-math...

Kaptin Keen
2017-08-12, 12:44 PM
Apparently, this thread is now about circles and how to draw them =)

Chimera245
2017-08-14, 05:01 PM
We've gone off on a ....tangent.

Lvl 2 Expert
2017-08-15, 03:33 PM
This line of thinking will probably get us right back where we started.

Off-pun: Glad you have found an illustrator with which things seem to be working out.