GuestEleven
2017-10-15, 10:14 AM
So I'm working on a character meant to control a serious undead horde, but I've come across the problem of Command Undead and the fact that I will only have two levels in Cleric and one in Wizard. The feat Command Undead reads as such:
As a standard action, you can use one of your uses of channel negative energy to enslave undead within 30 feet. Undead receive a Will save to negate the effect. The DC for this Will save is equal to 10 + 1/2 your cleric level + your Charisma modifier. Undead that fail their saves fall under your control, obeying your commands to the best of their ability, as if under the effects of control undead. Intelligent undead receive a new saving throw each day to resist your command. You can control any number of undead, so long as their total Hit Dice do not exceed your cleric level. If you use channel energy in this way, it has no other effect (it does not heal or harm nearby creatures). If an undead creature is under the control of another creature, you must make an opposed Charisma check whenever your orders conflict.
Which is well and fine, pretty weak as is but I may be able to find ways to beef up how many HD of Undead I can control regardless of the low Cleric level. What has threw a wrench in my gears and is making me question what I know is the Dread Lich template. It reads as such:
The dread lich’s caster level for the Command Undead feat is either 15 or 2 + its divine caster level, whichever is greater.
In Command Undead's reading there is no specific reading of caster levels, only Cleric levels. So what I am wondering is if when somethings says for instance 'Cleric level' should it be read as caster level? Or does the CL bump pertain only to the "as if under the effects of control undead" of Command Undead? Thanks in advance for any help.
As a standard action, you can use one of your uses of channel negative energy to enslave undead within 30 feet. Undead receive a Will save to negate the effect. The DC for this Will save is equal to 10 + 1/2 your cleric level + your Charisma modifier. Undead that fail their saves fall under your control, obeying your commands to the best of their ability, as if under the effects of control undead. Intelligent undead receive a new saving throw each day to resist your command. You can control any number of undead, so long as their total Hit Dice do not exceed your cleric level. If you use channel energy in this way, it has no other effect (it does not heal or harm nearby creatures). If an undead creature is under the control of another creature, you must make an opposed Charisma check whenever your orders conflict.
Which is well and fine, pretty weak as is but I may be able to find ways to beef up how many HD of Undead I can control regardless of the low Cleric level. What has threw a wrench in my gears and is making me question what I know is the Dread Lich template. It reads as such:
The dread lich’s caster level for the Command Undead feat is either 15 or 2 + its divine caster level, whichever is greater.
In Command Undead's reading there is no specific reading of caster levels, only Cleric levels. So what I am wondering is if when somethings says for instance 'Cleric level' should it be read as caster level? Or does the CL bump pertain only to the "as if under the effects of control undead" of Command Undead? Thanks in advance for any help.