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unseenmage
2017-10-31, 12:47 AM
My method is currently, aquire immortality then abuse Simulacrum, who then abuse Teleport Through Time via portals their creator provides, then somehow eat/store the Simulacrum's memories. (Shapechange into an Aboleth and eat their brains maybe?)
Rinse/repeat for all of the knowing of the things.

But I'm betting the Playground can do better, with fewer steps, and less OP magics. Any takers?

Endarire
2017-10-31, 01:01 AM
I thought Illithid Savant ([i|Savage Species[/i] PrC) would help here.

Tohsaka Rin
2017-10-31, 01:36 AM
As always, Psionics makes everything better.

Here's Hypercognition (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/powers/hypercognition.htm) and Metafaculty (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/powers/metafaculty.htm), both are, handily enough, Seer discipline powers, too.

What, you need a way to get details in a way that's not scrying, because that can be blocked? Ok, here's Object Reading (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/powers/objectReading.htm).

What, you need a way to have unknowing random people inadvertently spy on people for you? Ok, Mindlink (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/powers/mindlink.htm) will do the trick.

Basically just be a Seer Psion, and either use an item that has a power in it, or make other Psion friends, and have them use Psychic Chirurgery (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/powers/psychicChirurgery.htm) on you.

Psionics, for all your (everything) needs. :smallbiggrin:

JustIgnoreMe
2017-10-31, 01:55 AM
+ Infinite bonus to Knowledge checks?

BloodSnake'sCha
2017-10-31, 05:08 AM
How about Draconic Knowledge + BoBfeat for every Draconic feat?

Jack_Simth
2017-10-31, 06:16 AM
+ Infinite bonus to Knowledge checks?

Which is doable! It's The Omniscificer (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=16917909&postcount=2)

Grod_The_Giant
2017-10-31, 06:23 AM
Which is doable! It's The Omniscificer (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=16917909&postcount=2)
At level 4, no less!

Jack_Simth
2017-10-31, 06:45 AM
At level 4, no less!
It can too be done at less than level 4! It just requires one of the later pun-pun builds. They got him all the way down to level 1.

(and yes, that's a deliberate misunderstanding of intent).

Jormengand
2017-10-31, 04:08 PM
By obtaining a +29 bonus to all knowledge skills/by obtaining about a +100 bonus to all knowledge skills/you can't.


Check

Answering a question within your field of study has a DC of 10 (for really easy questions), 15 (for basic questions), or 20 to 30 (for really tough questions).

The highest knowledge DC is 30, so if you can make that consistently, you know everything which doesn't concern the identification of a creature. For that, you just need to be able to beat the highest DC for identifying printed creatures, whatever that is. There's just one problem: Deathless don't seem to be identifyable using the knowledge skills. So you can get close to knowing everything, but you still won't know much about deathless.

unseenmage
2017-10-31, 04:19 PM
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The highest knowledge DC is 30, so if you can make that consistently, you know everything which doesn't concern the identification of a creature. For that, you just need to be able to beat the highest DC for identifying printed creatures, whatever that is. There's just one problem: Deathless don't seem to be identifyable using the knowledge skills. So you can get close to knowing everything, but you still won't know much about deathless.
I wonder if there isn't some combination of Divinations that can be combined to gain knowledge about Deathless by remotely viewing them and/or getting answers from the divine about them.

Doctor Despair
2017-10-31, 04:35 PM
Can't learn about Vecna-Blooded creatures with a knowledge check

rigsmal
2017-11-01, 06:47 AM
Contingency + Know Secrets + Time Stop + Wish = Functional Omnipotence, Omnipresence, and Omniscience.

Know Secrets? Google gives me nothing.

Jack_Simth
2017-11-01, 07:18 AM
Know Secrets? Google gives me nothing.

Divine Ability that duplicates Legend Lore for free, apparently. Also of note, however, is that you really need that list as pretty much at-wills... and you're still gimped in a dead magic zone.

ExLibrisMortis
2017-11-01, 01:13 PM
CL 15 shapechange or polymorph (with Assume Supernatural Ability) into an elemental weird will give you a host of divinations as at-will free actions. Check the Monster Manual II.

Zanos
2017-11-01, 03:56 PM
By obtaining a +29 bonus to all knowledge skills/by obtaining about a +100 bonus to all knowledge skills/you can't.



The highest knowledge DC is 30, so if you can make that consistently, you know everything which doesn't concern the identification of a creature. For that, you just need to be able to beat the highest DC for identifying printed creatures, whatever that is. There's just one problem: Deathless don't seem to be identifyable using the knowledge skills. So you can get close to knowing everything, but you still won't know much about deathless.
Contradicted by specific rules that have bits of information that have a higher knowledge DC than 30. I think almost all of the Elder Evil checks are higher than 30, for example.

Jormengand
2017-11-02, 11:05 AM
Contradicted by specific rules that have bits of information that have a higher knowledge DC than 30. I think almost all of the Elder Evil checks are higher than 30, for example.

In any case, for each knowledge skill, there is some highest knowledge check that you'll need for that skill, whether it's a printed one or one you need to identify a monster. Against deathless and vecna-blooded, you'll have to resort to some other way, of course.