Prestige Class Suggestions for my Wizard

[PhantasyPen]

Hello all,

Whelp I finally got my computer back and am creating a new character for a friend's campaign. As the thread title says they are a wizard, with specializations in Anti-Magic and (nominally) Thermokinesis. Specialty School is Abjuration (With Focused Specialist for even more spells per day), and banned schools are Necromancy, Illusion, and Enchantment. Each of the schools were chosen for roleplaying reasons and aren't changing. Currently I'm at 7 levels in Master Specialist, and I plan to take all ten levels in the prestige class if not given any overwhelming reason not to do so. What I'm not sure on is which prestige classes to look into taking after I finish with Master Specialist. I've been debating about Abjurant Champion (For the Abjuration boosts), or Elemental Savant (for some bonuses to my fire spells). That being said I'm not completely sold on either PrC and would not mind if anyone has a suggestion for a third or fourth option.

[Nifft]

One powerful and numerically satisfying way to cap off Abjurationist 3 / Master Specialist (abjuration) 10 might be Initiate of the Sevenfold Veil 7.

You can't go wrong with Incantatrix 7, either.

[PhantasyPen]

Huh... Iot7V looks like fun. I've actually never looked at it before because I kept mixing it up with Rainbow Servant.

[Mike Miller]

Archmage is always a good one. I would suggest not going the elemental savant route, though.

[DMVerdandi]

War Weaver fam.
Always.

[PhantasyPen]

Archmage is always a good one. I would suggest not going the elemental savant route, though.
I'm leery of Archmage, the whole "permanent spell slot loss" thing makes me skeptical. So why not got elemental savant? It's thematically appropriate, and I'm not aware of any other fire/heat-specialized PrC's for wizards.


War Weaver fam.
Always.
I'm not the buffer, that's not what I'm for, and that's not what my spells are geared towards.

[ATHATH]

I'm leery of Archmage, the whole "permanent spell slot loss" thing makes me skeptical. So why not got elemental savant? It's thematically appropriate, and I'm not aware of any other fire/heat-specialized PrC's for wizards.
Four words for you: Two lost caster levels.

Also, Elemental Savant forces you to always deal fire damage with your elemental spells (which, admittedly, is mitigated a bit by the Searing Spell feat) and gives you close-to-nothing in return. Seriously, the best thing that the class gives you is probably a +2 DC to your elemental spells.

[Coretron03]

I'm leery of Archmage, the whole "permanent spell slot loss" thing makes me skeptical. So why not got elemental savant? It's thematically appropriate, and I'm not aware of any other fire/heat-specialized PrC's for wizards.

Because it loses caster levels. Typically, losing caster levels on a otherwise fullcaster is almost never worth it. Exception exist, such as war weaver, but it's usually not worth it, especially if you plan to be an antimagic character, most of which rely on their caster level.

I'd second Initiate of the Sevenfold Veil, as master specialist provides a perfect entry and its veils can be be very useful for shutting down opponents, especially once you get the Indigo Veil, which prevents spells and spell-likes from passing, which can be raised as an immediate action if an enemy casts a spell. Using double warding, you can create an extra warding infront of the Indigo Veil which has to be dispelled before the Indigo Veil can be dispelled (which is pretty unlikely, who prepares/knows daylight?). Pick whatever veil fits the situation as the secondary veil.

[PhantasyPen]

Four words for you: Two lost caster levels.

Also, Elemental Savant forces you to always deal fire damage with your elemental spells (which, admittedly, is mitigated a bit by the Searing Spell feat) and gives you close-to-nothing in return. Seriously, the best thing that the class gives you is probably a +2 DC to your elemental spells.

Only taking 7 levels of it, so that'd be only one lost level.

[ATHATH]

Only taking 7 levels of it, so that'd be only one lost level.
Still, what are you gaining? What is the class giving you that you want?

If all that you want is a fire-themed PrC, why not try the Silver Pyromancer PrC?

[PhantasyPen]

Still, what are you gaining? What is the class giving you that you want?

If all that you want is a fire-themed PrC, why not try the Silver Pyromancer PrC?

Because I've never heard of that PrC before?

[ATHATH]

Because I've never heard of that PrC before?
It's a five-level PrC that adds all Paladin spells to your spell list, lets you convert the fire damage caused by your spells into "sacred energy" damage, sets the base CL of your [fire] spells to be equal to your character level, and lets you deal semi-decent amounts of damage to undead based on your arcane caster level.

It's from the Five Nations sourcebook, if you're interested in it.

[PhantasyPen]

It's a five-level PrC that adds all Paladin spells to your spell list, lets you convert the fire damage caused by your spells into "sacred energy" damage, sets the base CL of your [fire] spells to be equal to your character level, and lets you deal semi-decent amounts of damage to undead based on your arcane caster level.

It's from the Five Nations sourcebook, if you're interested in it.

I found it right after posting, and while those are some very cool abilities, I don't think it matches the personality of the character. Hmm, can anyone think of some other good energy-damage arcane PrC's? I mentioned fire specifically earlier because that's what a lot of people think of but what I really want is a Fire/Ice/Lightning set for the character.

[MaxiDuRaritry]

If you're going almost entirely the blasty route, how about going kineticist psion or wilder? Swapping your energy types on the fly and manifesting any power you know as much as you want (and adjusting output on the fly for more precise control) is pretty excellent. Anarchic initiate is a good PrC for this, as well.

[PhantasyPen]

If you're going almost entirely the blasty route, how about going kineticist psion or wilder? Swapping your energy types on the fly and manifesting any power you know as much as you want (and adjusting output on the fly for more precise control) is pretty excellent. Anarchic initiate is a good PrC for this, as well.

DM banned psionics for this campaign, or I'd have been playing a Mind Mage. Also the character I'm playing is distinctly a WIZARD(TM). They take great pride in being a WIZARD, and that rather plays into how I'm going about designing them. (Caps intended for an "in-character" emphasis rather than any emotional investment on my part.)

[MaxiDuRaritry]

DM banned psionics for this campaign, or I'd have been playing a Mind Mage. Also the character I'm playing is distinctly a WIZARD(TM). They take great pride in being a WIZARD, and that rather plays into how I'm going about designing them. (Caps intended for an "in-character" emphasis rather than any emotional investment on my part.)Don't forget a hat with the word "WIZZARD" badly stitched on it, and an animated, homicidal trunk of holding with lots of little legs on.

Either way, I think Io7V would probably work best for you. Fits nicely in with the 13 level build, too.

Definitely look into metamagic reduction, as well, since you're blasting.

[PhantasyPen]

Don't forget a hat with the word "WIZZARD" badly stitched on it, and an animated, homicidal trunk of holding with lots of little legs on.

Definitely look into metamagic reduction, as well, since you're blasting.

1: Lol

2: Eh, Energy Admixture doubles my dice, and has a low adjustment, it should suit my needs well enough when I can finally take it.

EDIT: OR maybe not so cheap, dunno why I thought it was only a +2 adjustment.