Specter
2017-12-15, 10:32 AM
Greetings. I need help planning an encounter (again).
In the previous thread (here (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?516745-Can-this-party-handle-these-young-dragons)), we discussed that for a party of level 11, four young dragons were too much. Now, I am considering throwing one young and one adult red dragon at them. The party is at level 12 now, except for the Vengeance Paladin who is at level 13. Kobold Fight Club says this is a 'deadly' encounter. The terrain doesn't include lava anymore, because it's not really a volcano, but more of a 'hot mountain'.
I ran a simulation, considering the usual party tactics and without lair actions, and they were defeated. The dragons lucked out on their breath recharge, and some rolls were pretty low on their side. The young red died, but adult red managed with around half his HP. Here's the simulation in portuguese, but it shouldn't be hard to understand:
PRÉ-COMBATE:
Sheela - Protection from Energy
Agar - Death Ward
SHEELA
init20, 95hp
YOUNG RED
init17, 160hp
ADULT RED
init13, 256hp
AGAR
init12, 90hp
BARDOCK
init11, 108hp
EBLIS
init8, 111hp
IRIKKI
init6, 98hp + 29temp
__________________________________________________ ______
TURNO 1
SHEELA
2 atks (+13), adult red
1o: hit, 1d8+5+2+1 (12avg)
2o: hit, 1d8+1d8+8 (17avg)
AR: -29
YOUNG RED
Fire breath (DX17; todos passam menos Eblis); 16d6 (56avg), Bardock - Shield Master, Irikki - Absorb Elements
A: -28
E: -56
I: +15
S: -14
Concentração Sheela: OK
ADULT RED
Fire breath (DX21; só Eblis passa); 18d6 (63avg)
A: -91 (Death Ward = 1hp)
B: -56
E: -87
I: -48
S: -45
AGAR
Call Lightning (5o nível)
Save young red: fail
Channel Divinity (max)
YR: -50
Action Surge: +1
Save young red: fail
Channel Divinity: max
YR: -100
BARDOCK
Lay on Hands (Agar): +65hp
A: +66
Bless (Agar, Bardock, Eblis)
EBLIS
Fly (Bardock)
Inspiration (Agar)
IRIKKI
Evard's Black Tentacles
Save young red: fail
3d6 (avg10), restrained
YR: -110
__________________________________________
TURNO 2
SHEELA
2 atks (+13), adult red
1o: hit, 1d8+1d8+8 (17avg)
2o: hit: 1d8+1d8(maneuver)+8 (17avg)
AR: -63
YOUNG RED
Recharge: YES
Fire Breath (Agar; fail)
Agar: +10
Concentração: fail automático
ADULT RED
Recharge: NOPE
Frightful Presence (aleatório: Sheela; fail, frighten)
Garrada (Eblis): hit, 2d6+8 (15avg)
Garrada (Eblis): hit, 15avg
Mordida (Irikki): hit, Shield (+2hp)
Eblis: DOWN
AGAR
Call Lightning (5o, young red)
Save: fail automático
50 (max)
YR DEAD
BARDOCK
Death Ward (si mesmo)
EBLIS
Lentamente abraçando o vazio (fail save de morte)
IRIKKI
Storm Sphere (6o nível)
Save: automático
Atk: fail
__________________________________________
TURNO 3
SHEELA
Atk (desvantagem)
1o: hit, 2d8+8 (17avg)
2o: hit, 2d8+8 (17avg)
Save Frightening: pass
AR: -97
ADULT RED
Recharge: **** YES
Deslocamento, Fire Breath (todos; só Agar passa, Irikki - Absorb Elements (+2hp))
21d6 (63avg)
Agar: DOWN
Bardock: 1 (Death Ward)
Eblis: goodnight sweet prince
Irikki: -75
Sheela: -86 (conc. fail)
BARDOCK
Branding Smite (Sheela)
Dodge
IRIKKI
Deslocamento
Lightning Bolt
Save automático
4d6 (14avg)
AR: -111
__________________________________________
TURNO 4
SHEELA
ATK
1o: hit, 2d8+2d6+8 (24avg)
2o: CRIT, 2d8+8 (17avg)
AR: -152
ADULT RED
Recharge? NOPE
Mordida (Sheela)
Hit: 2d10+8+1d6-parry(3) (22AVG)
Sheela: DOWN
Garrada (Irikki): Hit: 2d6+8 (15AVG)
Garrada (Irikki): Hit: 2d6+8 (15AVG)
I: DOWN
BARDOCK
Blinding Smite
Atk
1o: Fail
2o: Hit: 1d8+1d8+3d8+4d8(smite)+5+1 (47AVG)
AR: -158
__________________________________________
TURNO 5
Mordida: hit
Garrada: hit
Mordida: CRIT
THE DARKNESS COMES
So, a few questions:
1) How can I give the party an edge to aid in this endeavor? I've considered giving the paladin a potion of flying so that he can actually do some good smashing, but I'm open to ideas.
2) Would it be adequate to have an encounter with half a dozen half-red dragon veterans beforehand, or would that push things?
In the previous thread (here (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?516745-Can-this-party-handle-these-young-dragons)), we discussed that for a party of level 11, four young dragons were too much. Now, I am considering throwing one young and one adult red dragon at them. The party is at level 12 now, except for the Vengeance Paladin who is at level 13. Kobold Fight Club says this is a 'deadly' encounter. The terrain doesn't include lava anymore, because it's not really a volcano, but more of a 'hot mountain'.
I ran a simulation, considering the usual party tactics and without lair actions, and they were defeated. The dragons lucked out on their breath recharge, and some rolls were pretty low on their side. The young red died, but adult red managed with around half his HP. Here's the simulation in portuguese, but it shouldn't be hard to understand:
PRÉ-COMBATE:
Sheela - Protection from Energy
Agar - Death Ward
SHEELA
init20, 95hp
YOUNG RED
init17, 160hp
ADULT RED
init13, 256hp
AGAR
init12, 90hp
BARDOCK
init11, 108hp
EBLIS
init8, 111hp
IRIKKI
init6, 98hp + 29temp
__________________________________________________ ______
TURNO 1
SHEELA
2 atks (+13), adult red
1o: hit, 1d8+5+2+1 (12avg)
2o: hit, 1d8+1d8+8 (17avg)
AR: -29
YOUNG RED
Fire breath (DX17; todos passam menos Eblis); 16d6 (56avg), Bardock - Shield Master, Irikki - Absorb Elements
A: -28
E: -56
I: +15
S: -14
Concentração Sheela: OK
ADULT RED
Fire breath (DX21; só Eblis passa); 18d6 (63avg)
A: -91 (Death Ward = 1hp)
B: -56
E: -87
I: -48
S: -45
AGAR
Call Lightning (5o nível)
Save young red: fail
Channel Divinity (max)
YR: -50
Action Surge: +1
Save young red: fail
Channel Divinity: max
YR: -100
BARDOCK
Lay on Hands (Agar): +65hp
A: +66
Bless (Agar, Bardock, Eblis)
EBLIS
Fly (Bardock)
Inspiration (Agar)
IRIKKI
Evard's Black Tentacles
Save young red: fail
3d6 (avg10), restrained
YR: -110
__________________________________________
TURNO 2
SHEELA
2 atks (+13), adult red
1o: hit, 1d8+1d8+8 (17avg)
2o: hit: 1d8+1d8(maneuver)+8 (17avg)
AR: -63
YOUNG RED
Recharge: YES
Fire Breath (Agar; fail)
Agar: +10
Concentração: fail automático
ADULT RED
Recharge: NOPE
Frightful Presence (aleatório: Sheela; fail, frighten)
Garrada (Eblis): hit, 2d6+8 (15avg)
Garrada (Eblis): hit, 15avg
Mordida (Irikki): hit, Shield (+2hp)
Eblis: DOWN
AGAR
Call Lightning (5o, young red)
Save: fail automático
50 (max)
YR DEAD
BARDOCK
Death Ward (si mesmo)
EBLIS
Lentamente abraçando o vazio (fail save de morte)
IRIKKI
Storm Sphere (6o nível)
Save: automático
Atk: fail
__________________________________________
TURNO 3
SHEELA
Atk (desvantagem)
1o: hit, 2d8+8 (17avg)
2o: hit, 2d8+8 (17avg)
Save Frightening: pass
AR: -97
ADULT RED
Recharge: **** YES
Deslocamento, Fire Breath (todos; só Agar passa, Irikki - Absorb Elements (+2hp))
21d6 (63avg)
Agar: DOWN
Bardock: 1 (Death Ward)
Eblis: goodnight sweet prince
Irikki: -75
Sheela: -86 (conc. fail)
BARDOCK
Branding Smite (Sheela)
Dodge
IRIKKI
Deslocamento
Lightning Bolt
Save automático
4d6 (14avg)
AR: -111
__________________________________________
TURNO 4
SHEELA
ATK
1o: hit, 2d8+2d6+8 (24avg)
2o: CRIT, 2d8+8 (17avg)
AR: -152
ADULT RED
Recharge? NOPE
Mordida (Sheela)
Hit: 2d10+8+1d6-parry(3) (22AVG)
Sheela: DOWN
Garrada (Irikki): Hit: 2d6+8 (15AVG)
Garrada (Irikki): Hit: 2d6+8 (15AVG)
I: DOWN
BARDOCK
Blinding Smite
Atk
1o: Fail
2o: Hit: 1d8+1d8+3d8+4d8(smite)+5+1 (47AVG)
AR: -158
__________________________________________
TURNO 5
Mordida: hit
Garrada: hit
Mordida: CRIT
THE DARKNESS COMES
So, a few questions:
1) How can I give the party an edge to aid in this endeavor? I've considered giving the paladin a potion of flying so that he can actually do some good smashing, but I'm open to ideas.
2) Would it be adequate to have an encounter with half a dozen half-red dragon veterans beforehand, or would that push things?