Halo RPG

[dragon_masterd]

Looking for someone to help me make a Halo RPG. Got the Classes down Already:
Spartan II
Spartan III
Marine
Elites
Grunts

If there is playable bad guys
Brutes
Jackals
Grunts
Drones
Prophets? (I guess this would be like an aristocrat)

[Devouring Rage]

Well first of all grunts and elites wouldn't be classes. They are races in their own right, and most would probably end up being a fighter class or something to that effect.

I don't know a whole lot about the Halo world, but is there a difference between the Spartan II and Spartan III? And I'm not sure whether a Spartan would be a class, although I suppose it could be if you wanted. The suit is an item, it is something they wear. Everything else is just them being awesome bad @$$es.

[dragon_masterd]

point about the elites but I guess we could combine races and classes... also, yes there is a difference between Spartan II and Spartan III Mainly, the armor is different, but Spartan IIIs don't have a shield, and they can turn invisible, so they would be more for stuff that is supposed to be secretive.

[R4ph]

Well first of all grunts and elites wouldn't be classes. They are races in their own right, and most would probably end up being a fighter class or something to that effect.

I don't know a whole lot about the Halo world, but is there a difference between the Spartan II and Spartan III? And I'm not sure whether a Spartan would be a class, although I suppose it could be if you wanted. The suit is an item, it is something they wear. Everything else is just them being awesome bad @$$es.

And the fact that they underwent extremely rigorous training from the age of 6. And the genetic modification they underwent at age 14 in order to make them actually physically capable of using the powered armour. Which, incidentally was called Mjolnir armour, spartan was the name of the program and the people who underwent it.

So, realistacly, spartan would need to be a class and either a race or a prestige race. It's not just about armour. If you want more info, take a look at the wiki page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPARTAN-II), or read the fall of reach, it's surprisingly good.

[SurlySeraph]

You've got most of your work done for you already. Look here (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40074&highlight=Halo)

[dragon_masterd]

oops. Sorry. Well then, we could at least do a pbp campaign using that.

[Sir Conkey]

would a grunt even get any bonuses, they are physically weak little idiots, brave in numbers but not alone. Not to say I don't like the idea, being a traitrous elite fighting beside spartans and marines would be fun and interesting.
Stats for weapons will be needed, like the energy sword (concentrated awesomeness), or the plasma grenade, hell any of the alien weapons will be kinda fun to create, the human weapons are basically from d20 modern books.

[dragon_masterd]

.....It wouldn't be traitorous. in H3 Elites and most grunts are with the humans. it's all over the net.

[ImpFireball]

It'd be nice if you could make a D20 3.5 with all the stats, and new feats, etc., etc.

Even in a futuristic setting the classes from 3.5 would fit. You could stick with only core classes, it doesn't matter.

Prestige races might work, though I'd suspect the use of new items to fall under certain prerequisites. Mjolnir armor, ie., would require stat prerequisites (such as 22 strength, 19 dex... 'superhuman' that can only be reached through drugs in other words).

Spartans are also quite a bit tougher then marines I'm afraid. At the most, a marine is usually a 2nd level fighter in the game. That'd be a veteran with all the futuristic advantages and equipment that fits an exceptional human being. Someone like Sergeant Johnson, might be a 3rd level fighter, 1st level spartan however (only a rumor though). Additionally, the marine featured in the book in the library, may have been as high as a 5th level or 8th level fighter.

In any case, equipment and technology should factor into overall stats. And of course, some equipment requires certain character traits. There'd also be multiple skills to fit the Halo Universe. It'd take some work, but at least it'd be more accurate RP-wise than a 'spartan' class who's key ability is being allowed to wear mjolnir armor.

Equipment and items also have descriptions that would fit all the item descriptions of the original D&D 3.5. However there'd be much more equipment that could do alot more. It should also be made obvious that an assault rifle of the future is more powerful then an assault rifle of D20 modern.

EDIT: D20 modern and future both suck in my opinion. Don't use em. Stick with 3.5, and add in some creativity for firearms, weapons, armor and new equipment, items, and skills. There'd also be new races that fit covenant of course.

Perhaps another course of action is simply add 'spartan' human into racial description, and then apply being a fighter (combatant), rogue (specialist with many skills), ninja (special forces soldier), etc. It'll take some work. Not to mention I don't even know how to do the little class table thing.

Here's another note: Classes and mechanics matter if you want to create an authentic RPG. If you're just looking for a name change, you can write 'combatant' or 'elite-class soldier' under the class for the race of who's name I can't remember (I remember grunts are called 'Ungoy' or whatever). Another instance could be that you could have an elite rogue (race: elite, class: rogue), who has several sp in 'move silently' which allows him to better make use of his cloaker (he's an invisible elite by description).

HD also matters. You could say an average brute begins with around 5 or 6 HD, but to have him in a level 1 adventure is unacceptable. The same problem is encountered in other games, where a player might wish to play an ogre or troll at 1st level. >_>

We can work past it though.

[Eldritch_Ent]

Someone like Sergeant Johnson, might be a 3rd level fighter,

... With infinite HP. :smallcool:


Keep in mind that the Covenent operate by a strict caste system- Every member of a race follows a certain Class, no questions asked. (So Grunt is both a class AND a race. Same with Elite, Brute, Juggernaut, and Oracle.)

[ImpFireball]

The caste system was never stated to apply to 'classes', rather they'd apply to occupations (could be applied somehow to D20 3.5 with adding skill sets).

In any case, 'heretics' are alot more freeform, then usual covenant warriors.

[torrent]

would you need feats to be able to drive all the different vehicles like the banshee and the wraiths and all that

[Sir Conkey]

.....It wouldn't be traitorous. in H3 Elites and most grunts are with the humans. it's all over the net.

I have played through the halo 1 and 2 but don't really care to look into the storyline of the third one. Its all over the net for people that look at halo sites