Looking for a Full Casting (Divine), High Skill Points PrC for 5 Levels

[DarkOne-Rob]

Hey Playground!

I am looking for a PrC that will advance Divine Spellcasting and provide 4-6 Skill Points per level for five levels to complete a PC I am designing. Ideally this PrC would be compatible with a Cleric of Calistria (http://archivesofnethys.com/DeityDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Calistria) who has focused on the Trickery Domain, whip use, and taking full advantage of two trees of the Deific Obedience (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/deific-obedience/) feat by way of the Divine Paragon (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/cleric/archetypes/paizo-cleric-archetypes/divine-paragon-cleric-archetype/) archetype and the Evangelist (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/prestige-classes/other-paizo/e-h/evangelist/) PrC.

Does anyone with a better, more encyclopedic knowledge of Pathfinder know of a good PrC to finish this out to 20? It's largely just for theory-crafting, but I would like to find a decent closer for the PC.

Thanks!

[upho]

First, just a heads-up: strictly according to RAW, it appears you cannot keep the Exalted boons once you take levels in Evangelist (regardless of the Divine Paragon archetype), since Deific Obedience says (my emphasis):

"If you later take levels in sentinel or evangelist, you lose access to the exalted boons and gain access to the new boons appropriate to your class."

Which means you'd have to choose the Sentinel boons with Divine Paragon in order to not have them replaced by the Evangelist boons. I think the Exalted boons are stronger, especially for a primarily casting/skill focused build which you seem to be going for?

However, I'd first ask your GM if you can keep the Exalted boons anyways, since the above part of Deific Obedience creates an odd situation when combined with Divine Paragon and related PrCs. IMO it should either never be possible to have more than one boon tree (which I'd guess the PDT would claim to be RAI), or you should be allowed to combine them as you wish if you have both Divine Paragon and a boon-granting PrC.

If your GM is fine with you keeping Exalted boons from Divine Paragon, I think investments into Cha becomes even more worthwhile, and consequently also Channel related stuff. So it might be a good idea to simply top off a cleric 5/exalted 10 with an additional 5 levels of cleric for additional Channel. You'd gain less skill ranks, but that's rarely much of a trade-off at such high levels. Or maybe 5 levels in the strongly Calistria flavored Enchanting Courtesan PrC (http://archivesofnethys.com/PrestigeClassesDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Enchanting%20 Courtesan) could be worth considering, at least if you're in a more intrigue heavy campaign and it suits your character concept. You could mitigate the lost CL and casting progression by grabbing the Prestigious Spellcaster (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/prestigious-spellcaster/) feat and the Magical Knack (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/traits/magic-traits/magical-knack/) trait.

And speaking of Calistria flavored, I think tail sting is mandatory for your Spiritual Form!

[DarkOne-Rob]

I appreciate the input, upho. This build is currently theoretical - she's not in a game yet and won't be playing in anything until selected for one. Once I have a DM I will certainly run the concerns you brought up by them. I hadn't noticed those clauses before, but hopefully it will work out.

I think I like that prestige class and those feats a great deal. Here's hoping it works out! Thanks for the ideas!

[Crake]

Well, if you take cloistered cleric as your base class instead of regular cleric, they have full casting and 6+int skill points per level, that covers your requirements, no?

[noob]

Well, if you take cloistered cleric as your base class instead of regular cleric, they have full casting and 6+int skill points per level, that covers your requirements, no?
that would be true if pathfinder did not override the 3.5 cloistered cleric with that inferior cloistered cleric (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/cleric/archetypes/paizo-cleric-archetypes/cloistered-cleric/)
So since it have the same name you do not have the right to use the 3.5 cloistered cleric(the same way you can no longer use the persistent spell metamagic who allowed to make a spell last all day because pathfinder did make a metamagic with the same name)

[Ssalarn]

Not a PrC, but the Cardinal (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/cleric/archetypes/paizo-cleric-archetypes/cardinal-cleric-archetype/) cleric archetype from Ultimate Intrigue has 6+Int skills and full divine casting, if that's all you're looking for.

**Edit**
Probably not actually that helpful since you've already used cleric levels earlier and cardinal isn't going to be very good at the things you're trying to do. The closest thing I can find to what you're looking for is the Gray Warden (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/prestige-classes/other-paizo/e-h/gray-warden/), which loses 3 levels of spellcasting. The sphere singer (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/prestige-classes/other-paizo/s-z/sphere-singer) gets 6+Int and only loses 2 spell levels, which is a little better, but it's deity specific which conflicts with the Calistria angle. There could be some 3pp stuff out there that's getting overlooked, but it doesn't seem like 6+Int and full divine casting with no lost levels is a thing in Pathfinder currently. Evangelist, which you already took, seems like the closest and still loses a level.

[DarkOne-Rob]

Crake, that change is probably my least favorite for Pathfinder archetypes from 3.5. Losing a good Cloistered Cleric for its PF replacement really makes this concept more difficult to accomplish.

Ssalarn, the Cardinal would make this concept work if it weren't for my intentions to focus on the Trickery domain (which overlaps with the Cardinal archetype from the start). I saw that archetype and got excited at first, then read it, and then moved on to other options. As an aside, I think it makes very little sense to have a level 1 "Cardinal" - the name would be better assigned to a PrC IMO.

As for 3rd party, they are probably out there, but I haven't spent any time looking there since most DMs are hesitant to allow them. The 3.5 PrC Temple Raider of Olidammara covers much of the flavor I want, but (typically) does it poorly. I am a little surprised that Paizo hasn't made a more fitting option for PF, honestly, considering the immense character of their deities in Golarion. It's too bad, really.

[Psyren]

Do you really need a PrC with 4-6 skills per level? With traits and a decent Int you should have no problem keeping your skills on par with a more skilled class just being a cleric.