Samurai archtype question

[Weirdyfish]

So I'm making a Dragonborn Samurai and i'm wondering how Rapid strike works exactly? It says I can forgo the advantage on one attack to gain an extra attack. Does that extra attack still have advantage or not?

[E’Tallitnics]

No. "Forgo" literally means to do without. In this case you're trading Advantage on 1 attack to make 2 regular attacks.

[Zanthy1]

No. "Forgo" literally means to do without. In this case you're trading Advantage on 1 attack to make 2 regular attacks.

I am seconding this, just so OP is aware that E'Tallinics didn't just make this up, he is correct.

[E’Tallitnics]

To be clear: It only affects the 1 attack with Advantage, making it 2 regular attacks.

As a 15th level Fighter you normally have 3 attacks per turn. With this class feature, and Advantage on 1 of those 3 attacks, you'll now have 4 attacks that turn.

[Weirdyfish]

Thanks for the replies guys, sorry I didn't understand the wording.

[polymphus]

It's a fun mechanic -- you're trading accurate strikes for more damage, like a version of Sharpshooter/Great Weapon Master. Like both of those, it's a calculation game: low AC, high health? Double-tap. High AC? Keep advantage.

[Eunostus]

It's a fun mechanic -- you're trading accurate strikes for more damage, like a version of Sharpshooter/Great Weapon Master. Like both of those, it's a calculation game: low AC, high health? Double-tap. High AC? Keep advantage.
But... If you trade your advantage for an additional attack... Don't you still roll two d20? Except you can now hit twice. So it's even worth it against a high AC opponent, since there's still a chance of hitting twice, albeit a lower chance.

[nickl_2000]

But... If you trade your advantage for an additional attack... Don't you still roll two d20? Except you can now hit twice. So it's even worth it against a high AC opponent, since there's still a chance of hitting twice, albeit a lower chance.

Ya, I don't see why you would ever not make the trade unless you were a multiclass character with rogue in there for sneak attack.

[Lombra]

But... If you trade your advantage for an additional attack... Don't you still roll two d20? Except you can now hit twice. So it's even worth it against a high AC opponent, since there's still a chance of hitting twice, albeit a lower chance.

Never thought about it this way, and it makes sense an awful lot.

To OP: the attack that you gain CAN still have advantage, you trade the advantage of one attack only. So yeah, you always want to do it, because you roll 3 dice instead of 2.

[E’Tallitnics]

Never thought about it this way, and it makes sense an awful lot.

To OP: the attack that you gain CAN still have advantage, you trade the advantage of one attack only. So yeah, you always want to do it, because you roll 3 dice instead of 2.

How can the Attack you traded Advantage for still have it? Advantage doesn’t stack so once you’ve traded it for another attack...

[DarkKnightJin]

How can the Attack you traded Advantage for still have it? Advantage doesn’t stack so once you’ve traded it for another attack...

Against a Prone enemy within 5 feet, for instance.
You're trading Advantage on the first attack for another attack.. but ALL attacks vs a Prone enemy within 5 feet are made at Advantage.
So, the first attack is now made without Advantage, but the rest of the attacks still jas Advantage because the source of the Advantage is not gone suddenly.

Another case would be vs a Paralyzed target. Which would also make each succesful hit deal Critical damage, as well.

[E’Tallitnics]

Against a Prone enemy within 5 feet, for instance.
You're trading Advantage on the first attack for another attack.. but ALL attacks vs a Prone enemy within 5 feet are made at Advantage.
So, the first attack is now made without Advantage, but the rest of the attacks still jas Advantage because the source of the Advantage is not gone suddenly.

Another case would be vs a Paralyzed target. Which would also make each succesful hit deal Critical damage, as well.

Oh. Duh… Thanks for the 412!